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Nothing official but the people he had problems with at Marvel are gone so the reasons to sign up currently out weigh the reasons to pass it up. I really hope something is announced, he'd be a fantastic edition.

Well he IS the Hulk.. afterall.. I hope they don't screw it up like Reynolds. Apparently he was Deadpool.. now he's another character?

Well he IS the Hulk.. afterall.. I hope they don't screw it up like Reynolds. Apparently he was Deadpool.. now he's another character?

he still is Deadpool when the writers write the movie but he is also starring as DC's Green Lantern ;)

Skrull would be a cool plot line. As someone who hasn't read the comics, do the heroes get infected? or are these alter-egos? If they do get infected, maybe they can turn Chris Evans into a decent actor /rimshot.

:D :rofl:

Re: Rappy/Razorwing Spiderman discussion: It will never happen because Sony will rather make crappy sequel/reboots until the end of time than let the rights to Spiderman movie go back to Marvel.

lol.. true.. Sony will hug the rights to the grave....

Director Jon Favreau has revealed that Iron Man will not reappear before the Avengers movie.

He said that Robert Downey Jr will not reprise his role in a cameo in any of the intervening Marvel Studios films.

"[Downey's] not in Thor, he's not in [Captain America: The First Avenger] which are the two movies for next summer," the Iron Man 2 director said in an interview on radio station KROQ.

"I'm not sure where The Avengers goes. There is no shooting draft written yet. It's going to be a big undertaking for Marvel to actually incorporate what happened in Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Thor, Captain America and The Hulk.

"All that has to inform one unified vision in The Avengers. It's a very exciting prospect. And certainly, Tony Stark is not going to be involved in any of the movies until that one."

Avengers will be released in 2012.

Source: Digital Spy

Director Jon Favreau has revealed that Iron Man will not reappear before the Avengers movie.

He said that Robert Downey Jr will not reprise his role in a cameo in any of the intervening Marvel Studios films.

"[Downey's] not in Thor, he's not in [Captain America: The First Avenger] which are the two movies for next summer," the Iron Man 2 director said in an interview on radio station KROQ.

"I'm not sure where The Avengers goes. There is no shooting draft written yet. It's going to be a big undertaking for Marvel to actually incorporate what happened in Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Thor, Captain America and The Hulk.

"All that has to inform one unified vision in The Avengers. It's a very exciting prospect. And certainly, Tony Stark is not going to be involved in any of the movies until that one."

Avengers will be released in 2012.

Source: Digital Spy

but that's what they HAVE TO DO. I'm fine with RDJ not being in the 1st.. as long as he didn't form the Avengers.

^ Wait what? You think RDJ doesn't need to be in Avengers? Even though Iron Man isn't the star of Avengers (team), RDJ will be the main draw for the film and no doubt be the name they advertise the most. While I'd like to see him in Thor I don't really care about Captain America.

Jeremy Renner is in final negotiations to join "The Avengers," Marvel Studios' big-screen take on its superhero team that's being directed by Joss Whedon.

Renner will play the bow-and-arrow-carrying hero Hawkeye, who, while not one of the initial members of the team when it was created in the 1960s, became an integral member soon after when the misguided villain switched sides.

Renner will join Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man/Tony Stark, Chris Hemsworth as Thor, Chris Evans as Captain America, Scarlett Johansson as the Black Widow, Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury and Don Cheadle as War Machine.

The Hulk may also be a character in the movie, but at this stage, there is no deal that would bring back Ed Norton, who starred as the emerald giant in 2008's "The Incredible Hulk."

Renner's involvement was initially rumored last fall, although the actor, who was in the middle of the awards derby with his war thriller "The Hurt Locker," was at the time more taken with Paul Thomas Anderson's untitled drama and was being heavily courted by Universal for "Battleship."

Renner never joined "Battleship," and while he still has definite interest in Anderson's film, that project is still cobbling financing and has seen its start pushed back several times.

Renner saw a chance to take on work in a role that, while key, is not starring in nature and will allow him to slide into Anderson's film if it should come together.

To keep costs manageable for the "Avengers," Marvel is trying to keep a lid on the movie's finances and the actors are taking salary cuts, according to insiders.

Renner, repped by CAA and Untitled Entertainment, next appears in Ben Affleck's "The Town."

Marvel did not confirm that Renner is in negotiations.

Source: THR

^ Wait what? You think RDJ doesn't need to be in Avengers? Even though Iron Man isn't the star of Avengers (team), RDJ will be the main draw for the film and no doubt be the name they advertise the most. While I'd like to see him in Thor I don't really care about Captain America.

ah crap... I read it wrong.. CAMEO damnit. lol. :laugh:

^ it's acutally not that bad..

except for Captain America the party performer...looks out of place :unsure: and the hulk hasn't even confirmed yet so just have a poster with Thor and IM on it (Y)

except for Captain America the party performer...looks out of place :unsure: and the hulk hasn't even confirmed yet so just have a poster with Thor and IM on it (Y)

I totally meant the poster is well done.. not the contents. :laugh:

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except for Captain America the party performer...looks out of place :unsure: and the hulk hasn't even confirmed yet so just have a poster with Thor and IM on it (Y)

wow whats with the deep hatred for chris evens rappy? i think the costume design looks great, poster does to.

except for Captain America the party performer...looks out of place :unsure: and the hulk hasn't even confirmed yet so just have a poster with Thor and IM on it (Y)

wow whats with the deep hatred for chris evens rappy? i think the costume design looks great, poster does to.

Once again, rumor has it that Nathan Fillion will be in this film ? playing Hank Pym, aka Ant-Man. (Note that if we actually ever do get an Ant-Man film, both Pym and his successor Scott Lang would be in it, according to wannabe director Edgar Wright.) But that's not all ? rumor-mongers are now saying that Desperate Housewives' Eva Longoria will play Hank's wife, Janet Van Dyne, aka The Wasp. As usual with rumors you read on the internet, do not assume that reality will wind up conforming with them. [Comic Book Movie]

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