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Hmmm, Cap is wearing an older version of his costume when Thor is attacking him. Maybe it is a Skrull thing going on :D

I'm also still weirded out that Hawkeye is in it, when he hasn't had his own movie (or Black Widow for that matter). But they do have to round the Avenger's out I suppose. And what about the other members down the road, are they going to be added in sequels naturally or will it be forced (ugh) such as Ant-Man and/or Wasp etc?

Hmmm, Cap is wearing an older version of his costume when Thor is attacking him. Maybe it is a Skrull thing going on :D

I'm also still weirded out that Hawkeye is in it, when he hasn't had his own movie (or Black Widow for that matter). But they do have to round the Avenger's out I suppose. And what about the other members down the road, are they going to be added in sequels naturally or will it be forced (ugh) such as Ant-Man and/or Wasp etc?

Well, Black Widow and Hawkeye were both featured in Iron Man 2 and Thor (Respectively). So, they're not coming out of the blue. Not that I don't think they would be able to introduce someone new in this movie. There's really no difference in introducing them here or in one of the other movies...

It will be interesting to see though. It looks like it's going to be a decent movie. At least I hope it is...

Easy. Just use any big names in the Avengers (say Stark). Then you will connect the universes together.

The problem is much bigger than that. Marvel Studios does not technically have the rights to Spider-Man movies, Sony does. They have since the very first movie.

really? you must be a dc fanboy because this trailer blows tdkr out of the water. i think this will be one of the best movies next year. ill also say the hulk looks great although i will miss ed norton.

Im not a dc fanboy, Im a good movie fanboy. If you really think that this movie has the level of refinement of anything made by Nolan or Snyder then be my guest... I guess.

First class and Thor were good.

Come on man, Thor was like a dream come true for fat metal-head teens. In my city just looking at the movie lines you could swear Harry Potter turned goth and made a new movie about it.

Come on man, Thor was like a dream come true for fat metal-head teens. In my city just looking at the movie lines you could swear Harry Potter turned goth and made a new movie about it.

Okay it might not be as good as you think I think but still 7.25 out of 10 for me, it is.

It was good except for the romance part between Portman and Hemsworth

Hmmm, Cap is wearing an older version of his costume when Thor is attacking him. Maybe it is a Skrull thing going on :D

I'm also still weirded out that Hawkeye is in it, when he hasn't had his own movie (or Black Widow for that matter). But they do have to round the Avenger's out I suppose. And what about the other members down the road, are they going to be added in sequels naturally or will it be forced (ugh) such as Ant-Man and/or Wasp etc?

It's the suit you see hanging behind the glass plus the one you see him wearing without his mask on. It's noticeable due to the mask, the flap on his chest the metal parts on the suit. It might be a shot of when they're testing a possible new shield made by Tony Stark.

Black Widow and Hawkeye both had cameos in previous movies. Perhaps they wanted to create a "oh, that's the guy from Thor who wass hanging in the basket" kinda effect.

@sanctified: It's all a matter of opinion really. Sure it's not the same as Nolan's adaption of Batman. Though that depends on what source material they use. Had Nolan used a different, more light hearted type of Batman comic, then his trilogy wouldn't have been as dark, etc.

Also, have we really reached a point to where we now have to compare each comic book adaption to Nolan's Batman Trilogy?

I believe I might've taken things out of context with Nolan. You weren't talking about him specifically, but about the difference between Iron Man and the movies that followed that movie. It really depends on what the director is capable of doing, not about Marvel. It's true that Thor and Captain America weren't as good as Iron Man. They where enjoyable though. The romance in Thor was just too cliché. but I guess that's what you get when you're adapting a comic book that's pretty dated.

But I wouldn't judge this movie by only the trailer. It only showed flashes of the movie. Flashes that can't really be used to judge the movie if you ask me.

Come on man, Thor was like a dream come true for fat metal-head teens. In my city just looking at the movie lines you could swear Harry Potter turned goth and made a new movie about it.

Thats what Thor was always supposed to be like anyway, old fashioned norse mythology gone mad. I personally enjoyed it and I respect your personal opinion on the film.

I'm looking forward to Avengers, but I'm trying to not get too worked up over it.

Oh and where was Black Widow in Iron Man 2? I don't remember seeing her, but I did watch it a long while ago. I might put it on tonight to watch again

First class and Thor were good.

I watched Thor last weekend and CA this weekend. Thor was cheesy but watchable in the same way that fast-food is edible.

Captain America was the worst movie I've seen in a long time. The plot was tedious, full of holes, unbelievable, etc. It also felt like they'd bitten off more than they could chew and tried to cram too much into the story. Steve Rogers was boring.

First Class, it was decent, true. Thor and Captain America? Felt like 90's all over again

+1

IMO, the only great Marvel films were the first two X-Men films. Everything else has been pretty ordinary.

I'm looking forward to Avengers, but I'm trying to not get too worked up over it.

Oh and where was Black Widow in Iron Man 2? I don't remember seeing her, but I did watch it a long while ago. I might put it on tonight to watch again

Me too, Avengers could be a big hit and it may battle The Dark Knight Rises since both are gonna release within a period of one month.

Black Widow's character was rather briefly shown in Iron Man 2. She appeared mostly in the last half an hour or so.

I have a lot of faith in this movie simply because it's being directed by Joss Whedon. I loved Firefly and absolutely loved Serenity. And from what I've seen of The Avengers so far, it looks like it'll be amazing. I look forward to seeing Iron Man, Thor, Black Widow, Captain America, Hawkeye, and the Incredible Hulk all fighting together in one movie.

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