Xbox 360 NXE hard drive install chart established

[+Mystic MVC]

All Pro Football 2K8 5.0GB XXX

Army of Two 5.7GB XXX

Assassin?s Creed 6.7GB Jerusalem load 39.5 seconds (DVD) vs 25 seconds (HDD)

Battlefield Bad Company 6.5GB XXX

Battlestations: Midway 5.5GB XXX

Beautiful Katamari 3.4GB XXX

Big Bumpin? Not Supported Not Supported

Bioshock 6.1GB Point Prometheus level 35 seconds (DVD) vs 24.5 seconds (HDD)

Blazing Angels 3.4GB XXX

Blue Dragon 19.9GB XXX

Brother?s in Arms: Hell?s Highway 5.2GB XXX

Bullet Witch 5.2GB XXX

Bully: Scholarship Edition 3.4GB XXX

Burnout Paradise 3.4GB XXX

Burnout Revenge 4.4GB XXX

C&C: Tiberium Wars 6.6GB XXX

Call of Duty 2 6.0GB 2-3 seconds each loadtime

Call of Duty 3 5.8GB XXX

Call of Duty 4 6.7GB Prologue, FNG DVD 15.5 seconds, HDD 10.5 seconds

Cars 5.2GB XXX

Civilization Revolution 6.3GB XXX

Clive Barker?s Jericho 5.6GB XXX

Club, The 5.2GB XXX

Colin McRae Dirt 6.4GB XXX

Command & Conquer 3 3.6GB XXX

Condemned: Criminal Origins 5.4GB XXX

Condemned 2: Bloodshot 6.8GB XXX

Crackdown Not Supported Not Supported

Culdcept Saga 5.2GB XXX

Dance Dance Revolution Universe 3.4GB XXX

Dance Dance Revolution Universe 2 3.4GB XXX

Dead or Alive Xtreme 2 Not Supported Not Supported

Dead Rising 6.6GB XXX

Dead Space 6.6GB XXX

Devil May Cry 4 6.7GB XXX

Dragon Ball Z Burst Limit 3.4GB XXX

Dynasty Warriors 5 Empires 4.0GB XXX

Dynasty Warriors 6 6.8GB XXX

Dynasty Warriors Gundam 5.6GB XXX

Earth Defense Force 2017 3.4GB XXX

Enchanted Arms 6.7GB XXX

Eternal Sonata 6.8GB XXX

F.E.A.R 4.0GB XXX

Fable II 6.8GB The brief pause/lag when accessing inventory menus is gone or noticeably reduced. Loading Home Village DVD 32.5 seconds, HDD 24.5 seconds

Fallout 3 5.9GB XXX

Far Cry Instincts Predator 4.9GB XXX

Far Cry 2 4.5GB XXX

FIFA 09 6.0GB XXX

Fight Night Round 3 3.4GB XXX

Gears of War 2 6.7GB Initial Load DVD 32 seconds, HDD 24 seconds, Denizens (Scattered) DVD seconds, HDD 11.5 seconds

Ghost Recon: Advance Warfighter 5.2GB XXX

Ghost Recon: Advance Warfighter 2 6.8GB XXX

Golden Axe: Beast Rider 6.4GB XXX

GRID 6.6GB XXX

GTA IV 6.8GB Decreases initial load time from 46.5 to 33 seconds. Loading ?Bull in a China Shop? Mission DVD 20 seconds, HDD 11.5 seconds

Guitar Hero II 3.4GB XXX

Guitar Hero III 3.4GB XXX

Guitar Hero Aerosmith 4.5GB XXX

Guitar Hero: World Tour 3.4GB XXX

Gun 3.6GB XXX

Halo 3 6.3GB Load times are worse (10 seconds longer) when installed and at almost every level

Hitman: Blood Money 5.8GB XXX

Infinite Undiscovery 12.5GB XXX

Juiced 2 5.7GB XXX

Just Cause 5.6GB XXX

Kameo: Elements of Power 5.9GB XXX

King Kong 6.5GB XXX

Kingdom Under Fire Circle of Doom 4.3GB XXX

Lara Croft Tomb Raider: Legend 6.7GB XXX

LEGO Batman 6.0GB XXX

LEGO Indiana Jones 4.4GB XXX

LEGO Star Wars: Complete Saga 5.8GB XXX

LEGO Star Wars: Original Trilogy 3.4GB XXX

Lost Odyssey 23.2GB 2 times faster playing off HDD

Lost Planet 6.8GB XXX

Lost Planet Colonies Edition 6.7GB XXX

Lost Via Domus 4.2GB XXX

LOTR: Battle For Middle Earth 4.4GB XXX

Madden 2009 6.7GB XXX

Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 5.9GB XXX

Mass Effect 6.8GB No more ?Loading? pauses when moving too fast. Elevator load times are identical (hardcoded)

Mercenaries 2 6.4GB XXX

Midnight Club: LA 6.0GB XXX

Moto GP 06 4.6GB XXX

Naruto Rise of a Ninja 5.3GB XXX

NBA 2K9 3.4GB XXX

NBA Live 09 6.3GB Improved by 8 seconds, going from 45 seconds to 37 seconds

NFL Head Coach 2009 5.8GB XXX

NFS Most Wanted 6.8GB XXX

NHL 09 5.7GB XXX

Ninety Nine Nights 5.6GB XXX

Ninja Gaiden II 6.8GB 125 seconds initial load on DVD, 45 seconds off HDD. No loading when selecting a weapon from quick switch menu

Oblivion 6.7GB Great Forest loadtime 44.5 seconds (DVD) vs 31 seconds (HDD)

Orange Box, The 4.7GB Loading Half-Life 2 DVD 44.5 seconds, HDD 25.5 seconds. Half Life 2 Save Game - ?We don?t go there any more? DVD 47 seconds, HDD 15 seconds. Loading Portal DVD 34.5 seconds, HDD 20.5 seconds. Loading Team Fortress 2 DVD 57.5 seconds, HDD 41.5 seconds

Pocket Bike Racers Not Supported Not Supported

Prey 5.0GB XXX

Project Gotham Racing 3 6.2GB XXX

Project Gotham Racing 4 6.0GB Average load is 6-10 seconds shorter, but audio crackles/pops while racing when playing off HDD

Sneak King Not Supported Not Supported

Tiger Woods PGA Tour 09 6.0GB XXX

Table Cell GB XXX

Timeshift 5.8GB XXX

TNA Impact! 6.8GB XXX

Tomb Raider Anniversary 6.4GB XXX

Tony Hawk?s American Wasteland 5.0GB XXX

Too Human 6.2GB XXX

Two Worlds 3.4GB XXX

Unreal Tournament 3 6.4GB XXX

Virtua Fighter 5 4.7GB 108 seconds from boot to gameplay off DVD, 56 seconds off HDD.

Virtua Tennis 3 4.1GB XXX

Viva Pinata 5.0GB XXX

Viva Pi?ata: Trouble in Paradise 5.2GB Loading New Garden DVD 20.5 seconds, HDD 16.5 seconds

BingeGamer

Sorry for the long post, but I didn't have time to edit out all the ones that haven't been tested. I think this is a great idea and is a helpful resource that can be looked to in the future. Kudos!

[pepsihabbit]

sorry but I havent been keeping up with all of this. so you can install your games on the hard drive? is there anything stoping you from renting or borrowing games and installing them? is there a limit to how many can be installed at once or do they expire after a certain period? If not nobody will ever have to buy a game again right?

[+Ryster Subscriber²]

god people are so obsessed with HDD installs, it's really the most useless feature of NXE.

Shaving 5-15 seconds off level loading times is useless? Go away troll.

sorry but I havent been keeping up with all of this. so you can install your games on the hard drive? is there anything stoping you from renting or borrowing games and installing them? is there a limit to how many can be installed at once or do they expire after a certain period? If not nobody will ever have to buy a game again right?

You still need the have the DVD in the drive to launch the game, but once the game has done it's disc validation, it doesn't use it again and loads everything it needs from the HDD copy. I think (and someone can correct me if I'm wrong) that you can then remove the DVD once the game is running.

Edited November 12, 2008 by TCLN Ryster

[sciguy007]

unfortunately, the time savings just isn't worth the amount of space it takes out of my 20GB hard drive...

[addc182]

You still need the have the DVD in the drive to launch the game,

so whats the point if you still have to change disks :/

[+Ryster Subscriber²]

I don't think the idea is to install all your games. Granted I've got a 120gb drive so space is less critical for me, but I only buy a game every 2-4 months. I'll just be installing new games when I buy them... then when I get a new game, I'll uninstall the previous ones. I'll just have the games I'm actively playing alot on the drive.

so whats the point if you still have to change disks hmm.gif

Well theres a couple of points the way I see it:

1) Games you are actively playing every day will take less time to load, and less time to switch between levels, making the experience nicer.

2) Less chance of the DVD being scratched by the drive as the only time it's read is when the validation is performed.

3) Similar to 2, because the DVD is only read during the validation, the drive can spin down therefore reducing the noise coming from the console.

[addc182]

I don't think the idea is to install all your games. Granted I've got a 120gb drive so space is less critical for me, but I only buy a game every 2-4 months. I'll just be installing new games when I buy them... then when I get a new game, I'll uninstall the previous ones. I'll just have the games I'm actively playing alot on the drive.

exactly i thought that was the point, to be able to have a small selection or your favourite on the hdd that you can just draw for at any time

if not im going to have to do some experiments with unofficial disks

[spenser.d]

Shaving 5-15 seconds off level loading times is useless? Go away troll.

I find it to be pretty useless too. 15 seconds? Whoop de friggin do. I don't ever notice the sound from my Xbox over the sound the game is making either so that's not an issue.

-Spenser

[IceBreakerG]

Guys, if you think HDD installs are useless, you must enjoy your 360 sounding like a jet that's about to take off. I do not. Less wear and tear on the DVD drive alone will be worth it, especially on games you play a lot.

[+Ryster Subscriber²]

If you don't see the point in it, don't use it. It's not like it's the one and only new feature in the NXE.

Also if you think it's pointless, why did you bother spending time reading a thread about the time savings of the feature? Move along.

[spenser.d]

If you don't see the point in it, don't use it. It's not like it's the one and only new feature in the NXE.

Also if you think it's pointless, why did you bother spending time reading a thread about the time savings of the feature? Move along.

Because it interests me. And I don't plan on using it. I plan on using many of the other features of the NXE though.

Just because I think it's pointless doesn't mean I can't come into a thread to see if there is a game where there's a ton of time shaved off, or it does significantly help. I probably wouldn't have posted, but your reply to his post was more of a troll post than his was.

-Spenser

[Rudy]

the fact that I will be able to play without the stupid 360 sounding like an airplane taking off is awesome!

I just have a question, for large games (like Lost Odyssey) do you have to install all the discs at once or can you install them one at a time (since it won't fit on the small 20gb)

[MightyJordan]

I'm glad Guitar Hero II is only 3.4GB! I'm gonna have to install that onto my hard drive when the NXE comes out. My disc is scratched to hell. It still works, but I can only play one or two songs before it comes up with the disc read error and boots me back to the dashboard.

[Guest]

Guys, if you think HDD installs are useless, you must enjoy your 360 sounding like a jet that's about to take off. I do not. Less wear and tear on the DVD drive alone will be worth it, especially on games you play a lot.

That's why I'm excited for NXE - quieter gaming.

[LightIdea]

Well Saints Row 2 used to lag in the main menu and take forever to load. Once I installed it, it was very very smooth, no lagging and quick loading to boot!

[digitalsoft]

Not really going to get many installed onto my 20GB then, I guess I'll have to just install games that I'm playing at the time.

[+InsaneNutter MVC]

I?m surprised at the size of some of these games, most of them don?t even take up a full DVD-DL, so much for Blue-ray apparently been needed for games this gen.

[Elessar]

Very pleased to see BingeGamer give credit where it's due :)

[mail]

Not really going to get many installed onto my 20GB then, I guess I'll have to just install games that I'm playing at the time.

Same

[spenser.d]

Because it interests me. And I don't plan on using it. I plan on using many of the other features of the NXE though.

Just because I think it's pointless doesn't mean I can't come into a thread to see if there is a game where there's a ton of time shaved off, or it does significantly help. I probably wouldn't have posted, but your reply to his post was more of a troll post than his was.

-Spenser

To be more specific, HDD installs would interest me in games such as HL2 or GTA4 where there's loading all over the place. If all the load times are decreased, that'd be cool. But take games like Halo 3 or GoW2 where it loads once for the whole campaign and I don't care much about the 15 seconds.

I also only have a 20GB HDD so I could really only have one game installed at a time. That probably wouldn't be much of a problem, but that's there.

-Spenser

[Hupp]

so whats the point if you still have to change disks :/

i assume you didnt see

Lost Odyssey 23.2GB 2 times faster playing off HDD

if you did and still dont see the point; well i cant help you.

[Rahul]

nice post mate

[Elessar]

For those interested, the source for much of the list can be found HERE. It's updated daily (whenever someone posts a new game) and there are still quite a few games that need to be added to the list but we're currently at 161, so not bad.

[rajputwarrior]

Shaving 5-15 seconds off level loading times is useless? Go away troll.

You still need the have the DVD in the drive to launch the game, but once the game has done it's disc validation, it doesn't use it again and loads everything it needs from the HDD copy. I think (and someone can correct me if I'm wrong) that you can then remove the DVD once the game is running.

in what game does it shave 15 seconds? I honestly don't see the point

[I am Reid]

You disc is more likely to get scratched from being inserted and removed every time you play, then if you were to just leave it in.