GT5P shown at 4x HD resolution (3840x2160) during Downshift Session 08

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Gran Turismo in 4 times the resolution of Full HD Polyphony Digital also presented two technological trials for the next generation at this event. Both of the presentations, were founded on the philosophy of “achieving the highest possible quality” held over the years by Gran Turismo.

One of these, was a time trial competition using Sony’s newest digital cinema projector, the “SRX-S110”. Gran Turismo 5 prologue is already in Full HD resolution at 1920 x 1080 pixels, providing the highest resolution possible in today’s TV content. However in this time trial, the Full HD image was increased to twice the resolution both vertically and horizontally (4x the surface area), enabling game play at an ultra high resolution of 3840 x 2160 pixels. This was performed by connecting and synchronizing four Playstation 3’s outputting a quarter of the image each at 1920x1080 pixels, but you must remember this demands an extremely high quality image from the source that can withstand the ultra high resolution. It can be said that this demonstration was only made possible, because the source image was Gran Turismo.

What supported this time trial on the display side, was the newest digital cinema projector from Sony, the SRX-110. This “4K”SXRD”(*1) projector is the next generation in projector technology, enabling a resolution of 4096 x 2160 pixels, equivalent to the high resolution image of 35mm film. The high 4000:1 device contrast ratio and a response time of 5 milliseconds, also adds to the level of breathtaking image expression introduced here.

The crowd was simply amazed by the clarity of the image displayed on the massive 220 inch screen, and the players who participated in the time trial expressed their excitement of how perfectly in focus the screen is even close up, and at the quality of Gran Turismo.

The “SRX-S110” digital cinema projector set above the time trial seat. With its high precision LCD display device “4K SXRD”, it is able to display 8.85 million pixels, which is over 4 times the resolution of full HD.

The massive 220 inch screen where the ultra high resolution image of the SRX-110 was projected. The overwhelming resolution and high contrast completely leaves the limits of previous existing projectors in the dust. The Ultra-Real, 240fps DemonstrationThe other display was a playable demonstration on a Nano-Spindt FED / Field Emissions Display developed by Sony, with a frame rate of 240fps (240 frames per second).

Gran Turismo 5 Prologue has already achieved a frame rate of 60p (progressive), but in this demo, Gran Turismo was made playable at four times this frame rate at 240fps.

The SXRD demonstration described above used four PS3’s to improve image quality, but this used the same to increase the frame rate.

The display used in this demonstration was the 19 inch nano-Spindt FED screen produced by FE Technologies, who is a company that has taken over the development of the FED technology that was being developed at Sony. This display contains over 10,000 electron sources called the nano-spindt emitter, per pixcel. A fluorescent substance is exposed to the electrons from the emitters to produce light, and this format is very close to a cathode-ray tube in principle. The resulting view angle is wider in comparison to a LCD panel, and it shows superior performance when displaying moving images, with no blurring of the outline.

Structure of the nano-Spindt FED. With over 10,000 nano-Spindt emitters per pixel emitting electrons to a fluorescent substance to produce images, the principle is very close to a cathode-ray tube type display. It has many high image quality performance characteristics, with a wider view angle, superior ability to produce black color, rich tone expression, motion pictures with no blurring of the outline, etc.

Expanded view of a single pixel. The diameter of one nano-Spindt emitter is approximately 120 nanometers (left). Over 10,000 of these comprise one pixel (middle). A fluorescent substance is exposed to the electron emitted from these emitters, to produce an image (right)

Comparison of the nano-Spindt FED and LCD panel structures. The nano-Spindt FED does not have a backlight, polarized plate nor light guide plate, making the parts structure very simple. Four PS3’s were also used in this demonstration. The frame rate of a single PS3 is 60fps, or 1/60 of a second, but by having four PS3’s draw an image four times within this 1/60 of a second, a frame rate of 1/240 of a second is made possible.

You can see the shocking difference of this high frame rate Gran Turismo immediately when you see the screen. It is as though you are following a real world event happening right in front of your face with your own eyes. Any and all flickering in the movement of the vehicle, in the smoke from the tires, etc. are completely gone, and you are almost tricked into believing you are watching something in real life. The guests at the event were baffled by the quality of the image, and stared in amazement at the screen.

The event merging cars, art, design and music, reached its finale with great success, and through two revolutionary demonstrations, Gran Turismo has also succeeded in producing a clear image of the future, and the road to get there.

Source: http://n4g.com/gaming/News-233797.aspx

That is nuts :|

Now only if I could afford a 220" Screen and 4 PS3s :laugh:

[-T- Member]

wow, thats practical

[RadishTM Veteran]

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I'd love that in my room :pinch:

Radish?

[Digitalx]

haha nuts indeed up close must look really nice though :|

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I'd love that in my room :pinch:

Radish™

Well I can contribute 1 PS3, I'm sure 3 other members of NW will as well. Then we can find an abandoned warehouse.

Dunno who's picking up the tab on the TV though :/

Neobond's subscribers beer fund? :p

[Ricardo Gil]

They just had to up the ante from last year's competition... :laugh:

http://forzamotorsport.net/news/drivingtun...riplescreen.htm

[HawkMan]

FYI, you hav been able to run Forza 4 at 4x HD resolutions since i was released :p

granted it doesn't do give you one big picture, but rather lats you have a front screen and two side screens and a rear screen, or 2 front screens or anythign divided on the horizontal axis, fro 1 to 4 screens, using the same technique, wich was also there in Forza 1, so liking onsoles to get bigger views in racing games isn't exactly new.

Heck I seem to remember some guy with a custom flight sim cockpit using 9+ omputers to create his own personal simulator :blink:

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FYI, you hav been able to run Forza 4 at 4x HD resolutions since i was released :p

granted it doesn't do give you one big picture, but rather lats you have a front screen and two side screens and a rear screen, or 2 front screens or anythign divided on the horizontal axis, fro 1 to 4 screens, using the same technique, wich was also there in Forza 1, so liking onsoles to get bigger views in racing games isn't exactly new.

Heck I seem to remember some guy with a custom flight sim cockpit using 9+ omputers to create his own personal simulator :blink:

What's new is the resolution this outputs at.

The Forza setup outputs at normal resolution over 4 screens.

This uses the 4 PS3s to output at 3840x2160 on one screen.

It's done differently, both are impressive, but this is definitely new ground.

[Nicholas-c Veteran]

who needs HD when you can haz super-HD :p cool stuff

[sundayx Veteran]

Look how far that guy's sitting from the screen. What a waste!

[HawkMan]

What's new is the resolution this outputs at.

The Forza setup outputs at normal resolution over 4 screens.

This uses the 4 PS3s to output at 3840x2160 on one screen.

It's done differently, both are impressive, but this is definitely new ground.

No, they do the exact same thing. the 4 PS3 are syncronized, to output 1/4th of the total image, each PS3 feeds the image to the 4x projectors or whatever that stitches it together.

The only thing different is that the 360 varian won't make you seasick if it desyncs slightly since they're not the same image, and it doesn't require a special projtor or screen, able to accep 4 HD inputs and stitch them, or a box that does it for you. but both use 4 synced consoles to output 4 HD images

What the PS3's in this case does, is the exact same thign as the 360 does with orza, only forza uses 2-4 different cameras, while the PS3's render one quadrant of the same camera each.

[Si Veteran]

That is amazing :|

[sn00pie]

Wow :|

[WelshBluebird]

Just wondering, surely this technically isn't actually 3840x1260?? (since GT5:P isn't actually 1080p, its actually 960x1080 or something like that, and is scaled horizontally to reach 1080p).

Impressive nontheless though, and would love to play the game like that. Hopefully within a few decades that kind of setup will be standard for gaming!

[perochan]

i wonder how much is that projector costs... a price of a car? :D

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No, they do the exact same thing. the 4 PS3 are syncronized, to output 1/4th of the total image, each PS3 feeds the image to the 4x projectors or whatever that stitches it together.

The only thing different is that the 360 varian won't make you seasick if it desyncs slightly since they're not the same image, and it doesn't require a special projtor or screen, able to accep 4 HD inputs and stitch them, or a box that does it for you. but both use 4 synced consoles to output 4 HD images

What the PS3's in this case does, is the exact same thign as the 360 does with orza, only forza uses 2-4 different cameras, while the PS3's render one quadrant of the same camera each.

Actually it's 3 images

As I said it's still outputting on multiple monitors, the above method requires 4 images to seamlessly integrate together on the one screen.

Not to mention the resolution is higher.

Dunno what we're arguing about, both are done differently.

Just wondering, surely this technically isn't actually 3840x1260?? (since GT5:P isn't actually 1080p, its actually 960x1080 or something like that, and is scaled horizontally to reach 1080p).

Impressive nontheless though, and would love to play the game like that. Hopefully within a few decades that kind of setup will be standard for gaming!

It's 1200x1080 I believe.

It's the official GT website that wrote that resolution - http://www.gran-turismo.com/en/sp/d2788.html

[Ricardo Gil]

Just wondering, surely this technically isn't actually 3840x1260?? (since GT5:P isn't actually 1080p, its actually 960x1080 or something like that, and is scaled horizontally to reach 1080p).

Impressive nontheless though, and would love to play the game like that. Hopefully within a few decades that kind of setup will be standard for gaming!

The output is 1080p, the internal render however isn't. IIRC it's 14401280*1080 or something like that. Like many other games it's upscaled.

[Jimmy0]

Do want! :woot:

[Sethos]

Why not get a smaller screen and sit closer? Having such a huge screen and then sitting miles away is almost pointless.

[Ricardo Gil]

Actually it's 3 images

That setup, Yes. But it can go up to 4, you can find it on google.

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That setup, Yes. But it can go up to 4, you can find it on google.

Fair enough I just looked at the images on the website you linked.

[Corris Veteran]

Why not get a smaller screen and sit closer? Having such a huge screen and then sitting miles away is almost pointless.

For everyone else to enjoy? lol.

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For everyone else to enjoy? lol.

Yup, purpose of the event

Both of the presentations, were founded on the philosophy of “achieving the highest possible quality” held over the years by Gran Turismo.

The space is needed for the viewers to see the screen/get up close.

[HawkMan]

Actually it's 3 images

As I said it's still outputting on multiple monitors, the above method requires 4 images to seamlessly integrate together on the one screen.

Not to mention the resolution is higher.

Dunno what we're arguing about, both are done differently.

Umm, not it's 4 screens.

you CAN have a rear view as well. that particular setup runs the rear view in a tiny monitors set up as a rear view mirror.

And the point is that they're not done differently.

the ONLY thing different is that GT5P uses one camera spplit in 4, while Forza uses 4 cameras, Actually I'm not sure, it may actualy use a single panoramic camera but I doubt it.

The merging of the 4 inputs, happens on the projector or a box inbetween, not on the PS3's.

I do wonder how they sync them though, Forza syncs over the network. but if you use 4 different screns, you won't notic evn 1-2ms or even higher desync between the screens.

with 4 images being merged into one, they practically need perfect sync, down to the millisecond or less.

either way they do the same thing, just that this thing has an extra piece of hardware merging everythign into one 4x image instead of 4 views.

Even then with Forza, the front and side views can be set to no angle separation. in wich case you can use hardware like that projector to create a single triple wide panoramic image/projection, I think that's even ben done if you look at some of the more expensive sim demo's of Forza

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HawkMan as I said, I dunno what we're arguing about any more :laugh:

End point, both are impressive, both cost too much for us, we'll have to be happy with 1 HDTV :p