10 REASONS to pay 15 bucks to play WoW?


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Thank you, you said what I wanted you to say. You view WoW as a bad game, because YOU let yourself loose control and focus completly on the game and nothing else matter. All of which you listed as to why WoW was a bad game was your doing and not WoW's. Don't bash a game for your screw up's that were caused by you or the lack of you.

Where, in any post did I bash WoW? I never once typed it was "bad".

I just said what happened to ME, and I suggested to consider parental controls to set limits for yourself, so if you are like ME - Then you don't get into situations where you take the game over real life.

I never once bashed the game, you're taking what I typed out of context.

Where, in any post did I bash WoW? I never once typed it was "bad".

I just said what happened to ME, and I suggested to consider parental controls to set limits for yourself, so if you are like ME - Then you don't get into situations where you take the game over real life.

I never once bashed the game, you're taking what I typed out of context.

Taking it how you implied it.

I tried to play WOW a couple of months back(or maybe 4) because I wanted to see what all the fuss was about, but after forcing myself to play that game for a month I could finally state that I hate that game (or just all mmorpg's). And I really wanted to like it cause lots of my freinds played it and that I already have no life so there would be no harm done there :D but yeah... not a game for me. (I am not saying it's a bad game, since alot of peoble like it and I respect that).

Im just gonna go play left4dead :cool:

Another vote for you to get help. I'm sorry...and you brought this up yourself...but if you chose playing a video game over spending time with your dying father, you have much much deeper issues that you need to be addressing.

could you stop aggressively advocating wow by clearly flashing off your own issues?

Gotta agree with him, does sound like you have some issues.

sure he has/had, he said it. he had a wow addiction. stop bashing him just because he admitted what you cannot admit.

that's like going to a heroin addict and say "no you're not hooked, you're just dumb, cause i can use in moderation"

some can, others can't. still does not change the fact that loads of people are hooked on wow and other mmorpgs. good?

lol this coming from a person with a Mobile Me signature!! :woot:

must be pretty good considering 11 million people are playing it..

MobileMe + iPhone is currently an excellent solution. Don't know how you can compare an online could-computing service to an MMO.

At least use my political views against me, or something.

11 million players . . . proves my point.

sure he has/had, he said it. he had a wow addiction. stop bashing him just because he admitted what you cannot admit.

that's like going to a heroin addict and say "no you're not hooked, you're just dumb, cause i can use in moderation"

some can, others can't. still does not change the fact that loads of people are hooked on wow and other mmorpgs. good?

So because few people have admitted to having a WoW addiction, all WoW players are? I guess the few people who admit to having a sex addiction makes anyone who has sex an addict. That's basically what you are saying.

11 million players . . . proves my point.

What point? That the game is "kiddie"? I'm having a hard time understanding where 11 million players proves your point, that the game isn't good. If anything it should provide doubts.

So because few people have admitted to having a WoW addiction, all WoW players are? I guess the few people who admit to having a sex addiction makes anyone who has sex an addict. That's basically what you are saying.

What point? That the game is "kiddie"? I'm having a hard time understanding where 11 million players proves your point, that the game isn't good. If anything it should provide doubts.

The more mass-market and mainstream something becomes, the more dumbed-down and shoddy it gets. Eventually, the large community itself begins to pollute the game and reduce its quality even further.

how do you get to lvl 2? kill some [insert generic name here] and collect 5 [insert pointless object here]

how do you get to lvl 3? kill some [insert generic name here] and collect 5 [insert pointless object here]

how do you get to lvl 4? kill some [insert generic name here] and collect 5 [insert pointless object here]

how do you get to lvl 5? kill some [insert generic name here] and collect 5 [insert pointless object here]

how do you get to lvl 6? kill some [insert generic name here] and collect 5 [insert pointless object here]

how do you get to lvl 7? kill some [insert generic name here] and collect 5 [insert pointless object here]

how do you get to lvl 8? kill some [insert generic name here] and collect 5 [insert pointless object here]

Then grind some more to get ****ty gear while staring at graphics that were already dated a year after its debut. Or go on raids to do the same thing.

Total brain-drain.

Let me spin it bit differently, for the sake of variety. Here's what your money buys, every month:

Talk to guy

He says get 15 items by killing (Beasts ? Humans ? Monsters)

Kill 15 (Beasts ? Humans ? Monsters)

Kill 53 more (Beasts ? Humans ? Monsters) because only 1/23 drop the item you need.

Talk to guy again

Guy gives you a shoe/cape/wooden mitten

Repeat

Repeat

Weep

Repeat . . .

<snip idiot statement>

You just describe every video-game ever created! Well in some sort, in that it's all repition and you repeat the same thing over and over. So I can only assume you hate all video games since they are the same thing essential, so then I have to ask, why are you posting in a gamer's hangout if not to troll a video game?

I went through some of your posts, to find a few post made in the gamer's lounge. And nearly all of them or negative. A few weren't but most were bashing it for some reason or another. Sounds like to me you just don't like video games, or well you like video games that you "mod the hell out of". I'm sorry this isn't your cup of tea, and if it isn't I can't see how any other game can be also, since when you break it down they all require repition and doing the same **** over and over.

So meh, keep on trolling, it's the only thing you got.

I recently quit WOW and im so glad I did.

Almost got my character to level 80. It takes FOREVER and got to 78 and it hit me. What is the point? I've spent so much time on my character for nothing so I just logged out and cancelled my subscription and havent been on there since.

I recommend you don't start playing WOW.

You just describe every video-game ever created! Well in some sort, in that it's all repition and you repeat the same thing over and over. So I can only assume you hate all video games since they are the same thing essential, so then I have to ask, why are you posting in a gamer's hangout if not to troll a video game?

I went through some of your posts, to find a few post made in the gamer's lounge. And nearly all of them or negative. A few weren't but most were bashing it for some reason or another. Sounds like to me you just don't like video games, or well you like video games that you "mod the hell out of". I'm sorry this isn't your cup of tea, and if it isn't I can't see how any other game can be also, since when you break it down they all require repition and doing the same **** over and over.

So meh, keep on trolling, it's the only thing you got.

Because most mass-market console fare (and subsequently ported to PC fare) these days is total crap.

I manage to tolerate and sometimes even enjoy EVE online because it's actually stimulating. The paradigm is actually quite different from a lot of the other candy-coated garbage out there. But even playing that day in day out a la WoW is just nonsensical and still a total waste of what's between your ears.

Then again, this is just my opinion. Same as any other. Don't take it personally.

Glad you did your research on me, though. I'm flattered by your interest. ;)

Now that WotLK is released here are some reasons not to pay $15 dollars a month, and some reasons to also do so.

1) It takes 15 million exp to get from 70-80. Now imagine how much it will take to get to 1-80.

2) By the time you hit 80, everyone will severely overgear you, if you play in moderation.

3) There are TONS of 14 year olds that cannot understand how to play, and are extremely annoying, and mouthbreathers....

4) I played for 2 years. I just recently quit, here is what I lost and gained due to this videogame:

Lost:

1) 2 Girlfriends.Lost 1

2) Didn't see several movies in theatres that I had been waiting for, for years.i didnt go out

3) Time spent with my dying father.My Mom a bit more than 6 months ago, many time she had cancer i played WoW

4) Several very good friends.One of the few things wow didn't do to me, actually made some new friends.

5) I use to be able to create extremely intricate ink pen drawings at the drop of a hat, I now can barely draw stick figures.im disgraphic

6) I'm quite sure my IQ went down while staring at my monitor constantly & doing the same thing ingame, over and over, and over again.Doi.

7) Lost roughly 450 dollars over 2 years due to subscription fees & character transfers.Prolly bit less, still alot

8) And overall, about 9,000 hours of time better spent doing something to better my life, and get me ahead. ( 12 hours of playing a day, 7 days week for 2 years. )Probally more, and more.

Gained:

1) Lost 60 pounds over 2 years.I just went up, but when i quit, i started working out for some reason. i had time on my hands suddenly.

also, i used to have ****ty grades when i played WoW, after i quit, i really put my life in focus.

Thats about it for gained, I cannot think of anything else remotely positive after playing for 2 years.

If you plan on playing, I recommend using the parental controls and setting time limits for hours of play a day... If not, odds are a lot of my negative outcomes from playing will happen to you as well. Play in moderation for the love of yourself.

I first started to play WOW to fill in time because I was bored. As I made friends on there, I was on there longer and before I knew it, I was always on there doing something.

My character at level 70 always raided. I hated raiding and didn't want to do it, but I felt I had to raid for the other guild members. I was leveling up again after just buying the expansion and something inside of me cracked and I just stopped playing. The game is very addictive and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. I didn't realise how addictive it was until I quit and some of my friends (who still play wow) kept going on and on about it on MSN. I was like 'omg they are so addicted' and WOW does that, it hooks you in. Of course not everyone is like this, but if I had to choose again whether or not to play WOW I would have chosen no. I was playing for 2 years and wasted so much time on this game.

The game is very addictive and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

Yes the game is addictive if you're willing to let your self get addicted. It's like becoming an alcoholic then blaming the brewers for producing such great tasting drinks! :laugh:

It's not Blizzards fault. It's your own. Stop blaming the ****ing game.

Everything is great in moderation.

If you suffer from lack of discipline then this is definitely not the game for you. Also if your terribly competitive about being the best you can kiss good-bye to all the free hours you have.

Yes the game is addictive if you're willing to let your self get addicted.

QFT.

This thread is heading to the "pointless" category..

People will always have different opinions, and obviously some people are going to make heated comments on both sides here due to past experiences..

My advice? Just play the free trial for a little bit and see if you like it!

Just keep in the back of your mind that it is possible (but not a solid fact for everyone) to suffer an addiction to the game but keep an open mind and decide for yourself...

If you plan to get rid of your friends, family, job and live a miserable life, then you should subscribe immediately. There are millions of reasons NOT to subscribe.

I had a friend who was on his way to have a wonderful future and he messed everything up because of this damn game. He dropped out of university almost when he was done, he broke up with his girlfriend, and he got fired for being too late several times because of playing WoW too long.

This game is more dangerous than drugs - seriously. I think there should be a therapy against WoW.

Played for 9 months and got a bit addicted but then I reached level 40 or 50 (can't remember) and it was booooring. Realised that it was always the same thing over and over but with different creatures and places. I consider myself lucky that I quit the game.

I wouldn't recommend, I'm loosing my best friend as we speak now because of WoW.

I love all these ex-wow players "who realised" and have "grown up", they come in bash threads where people are still enjoying the game or warn off new players. Yet they all forget that the the entire time they themselves were playing wow they no doubt really enjoyed it for 2months to 2 years.

So intead of this canvased "oh i used to play, REALLY dont get into it, it destroys you" crap.

How about "I used to play and found it fun for a long time but sadly I grew out of it, tho if youve never played wow try it, but take it in moderation"

Oh and IMHO 90% of wows addiction is the community and the people you play with not the game itself. Yes theres stuff in there that requires some right hardcore playing but 75%+ of players are in whats known as "Casual" guilds, people who play a day or 2 a week or whom mainly pvp.

Dont be put off by jaded hardcore raiders who think theyve somehow had a revealation that ultimately the games repetitive and thus crap. Wake up ALL GAMES ARE REPEPITIVE.

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