My intentions as the new project manager

[Simon Veteran]

Hey guys,

Most of you can probably guess that I have some plans brewing as the project manager for Shift. I've done up a little press release we can put out when the time is right, which details exactly what I want to do, but I won't put it out until everyone agrees on what we have. Some of these things are tough decisions, but ones that I've made with a few other members of the team, and I hope I can get your guys' cooperation on it.

So, here we go:

Shift Linux: A New Direction

Since its incarnation in 2005, Shift Linux has had an ambitious team behind it. We have always strived to be ?more than just another linux distribution?, a goal which has never been more important than it is now. Over the next little while, Shift will be reborn and redefined, moving farther away from traditional Linux roots, and into something newer. Linux will always be our core, but on top of that, we need to use new technologies, both those that exist and those which we can only imagine, to build something fresh. Today, Shift Linux will move forward.

We have several new goals that are being set. First of all, Shift needs to be streamlined. Some things are going to be cut out to make room for others. The biggest changes here: one distribution under one name. Shift Linux will be Shift Linux. There will be no Shift Lite or Shift KDE or Shift Gnome, there will be a Shift Linux. And Shift Linux will run Gnome by default. It is important, however, to make one thing very clear: we will always hold a place for alternatives, and where possible we will always offer KDE and Fluxbox for one click installation.

There are several reasons for this drastic change. First of all, we can not cover such vast territory with the small team we have. Having more than one version means we need to do everything twice, and our research shows a large majority of people would prefer to use Gnome over anything else. With only one flavor of Shift, we can put twice as much time into Gnome, resulting in something that truly is new. Secondly, user friendliness. Besides the obvious reason that one thing to download is one less decision for a user to make, having one distribution allows us to focus more on our other new goal of user friendliness. This goal is the number one priority for us. Our prime demographic is not Linux users; there?s no reason for a Linux user not to choose Shift, after all, it?s not like we?ll be locking them out of our technologies. There is, in fact, more reasons for them to use Shift.

User friendliness makes everyone?s lives easier. Whether you like power or not, the less you see of the terminal and the more you can do with less clicks, the more efficient of a workflow you have. Less time in the terminal. More time doing work. More time having fun. And you?ll always have the option of opening up the terminal and working from there if you want.

Being ?noob friendly? is never a good reason to not use something, because using it does not make you a ?noob?. Rather, using it gives you access to the simpler side of things. Anyone who doesn?t use a distribution because it?s too easy simply doesn?t care about their efficiency, and so honestly, we are not aimed at you with that kind of attitude. But we welcome you, and think your attitude should probably change.

Finally, Shift Linux will not be a rehash of things that already exist. Shift Linux will be something new. The third and final goal we now have is to not install things that already exist, but to invent the ideas we all want to exist. If there is an open source Linux application that suits our needs, we will use it. But that?s not all we will do: we will make the things that don?t suit our needs all over again. Linux has so much potential to tap into, and so many programming languages for us to use. The Neowin community has an infinite amount of people who can help us, no matter what their language. We can use Mono, we can use Python, we can use C, we can use Perl. Whatever you know programming wise, we want you.

Further on that point, Shift Linux will look good. Design will be integrated, because it fits into both our goal of ?something new?, and our goal of user friendliness.

Now, there are a few things I want to say that are not going to change yet. We will, for the time being, stay on Ubuntu. It suits our needs personally right now, because it is user friendly, but we can push it further. I do not believe that Ubuntu is what Linux should be, but I think the Ubuntu team has a fantastic initiative, and the work they have done would be perfect under our goals. When the time is right, and we have enough dedicated developers, we will move away from our Ubuntu roots. But right now, Ubuntu is just fine for us.

There is no time limit for Shift Linux. There are no deadlines. We will ship when we are ready. And what we ship will change Linux as we know it. I ask you to help us create something fresh. Something better than Windows, something better than Mac OS X. I have the motivation, and I know you do too. So if you are a veteran of our team, someone who hasn?t helped out in a while, or someone who is hearing about Shift, or even Linux, for the first time, we need you. Together, we can be the new face of Linux.

- Simon Andrews, Shift Linux Project Manager.

[markwolfe Veteran]

Sounds good, and I support this direction 100%

However, I am just a newbie in programming with Python, nor with my career change going on, will I have a lot of time to put in.

But I will contribute what I can, where I can, whenever I am able.

[hopp58902 Member]

I'm going to learn Python :p

[markwolfe Veteran]

I'm going to learn Python :p

You may already be ahead of me, then. :blush:

[Simon Veteran]

I've checked this over with pretty much everyone, so it's been pushed around the web (front page Neowin and the Shift Linux site).

[hopp58902 Member]

I also sent it to DistroWatch, so we might see this announcement up there too.

[Simon Veteran]

I want to know... do we want to use Ubuntu? That seems to be the biggest criticism, and we want to start from the ground up if we're really going to do something new. When I helped out a little bit on Raspberry, we used Arch Linux... if we get the team big enough, I think we should at least consider going for it.

[markwolfe Veteran]

Leveraging Ubuntu has several advantages, particularly from the Neowin Windows user viewpoint. Wubi comes to mind. If we can wubi up an Arch, I think it would be good.

[Simon Veteran]

We can leverage Wubi, as bma and I have mentioned in the past. And I want to do it, although I know Barney was always against the idea...

It might not be easy, but the long term benefits could be very good. People wouldn't be motivated behind a Ubuntu based distro, I don't think. Not as much as they would be proud of something built from the ground up (more or less).

The poll has LFS/Arch under 50%, but I think most of those votes were cast early on. I didn't want to show a bias either way, otherwise I would've done the pros and cons of each move, but I think that, considering where each of us stand on the issue from what I can tell, we should do it.

Honestly... Barney, if you're reading this, I want to know what you think. Regardless of who's in charge, this distro has and always will be your baby. I think the call is 100% in your hands at this point.

[Barney T. Administrators]

Thanks for your kind thoughtfulness, Simon.

I think that if you guys would like to take Shift away from it's Ubuntu base, that is fine. It definitely would set it apart from all of the current Ubuntu clones. However, the charm of Ubuntu is in its great coverage of apps and drivers for lots of computer hardware combinations, as well as it's ease of use (and installation.. as Mark points out).

I fully support a distro based on Arch (or any other base, for that matter) as long as it is awesomely fresh, easy to use, and appeals to the vast majority of those who use it. Remember that our original roots came from Morphix......

I always support the team! (Y)

[Simon Veteran]

Great to have your blessing, Barney. Unless there's any objections... I think we'll go through with it.

[Brian M. Veteran]

No objections over here (Y)