i hate winter

[Emily_June]

Man, a few grand lasts you months? I'd say you're lucky already. Did you say you're just outta high school and paying child support already?

I think he was saying he hasn't gone further than a high school diploma, in terms of education.

1) Moving does not guarantee a job. I did that. I lucked in - after looking for 4 months. Making better money and all, but it was a risk.

2) Economy in pre and post war was MUCH different than today. Skills, education were less critical and availability of work was huge in labour.

3) SAAD does happen. There's quite a few Harvard Medical studies on it. It happens to most in winter but can be much worse for some. Exercise and Vitamin D work for me. I'm in the rain capital of Canada. After being in Ontario and suffering from countless storms last year, I'm doing a bit better.

There's some lights you can get. For me, I get a splitting headache.

4) Feel bad for you living in Michigan. I drove through Michigan a few years ago. I didn't understand what Michael Moore was talking about with Flint Michigan until I drove through it. With the bleak news on the Big 3 + the mortgage crisis being worst hit in Michigan, I really feel bad for everyone there. Makes me kind of want to cry.

5) I might suggest thinking of Canada or working on contract in Canada. With your experience etc., working in Alberta in oil or in north in the Diamond mines, might be very profitable for you. Employees are well paid and work on rotating 3 or 4 month shifts. Just a thought. There might be similar work for you in States or abraod (e.g. Saudi Arabia) where your family won't have to relocate.

It honestly makes me sad that such negative views can be had on such a beautiful state. Of course Michigan has some rough areas, just like every other state, providence and country in the world; it's an inevitability of humanity. Flint just happens to be one of them; so are many parts of Detroit. I've seen much worse areas in many of the southern states. And Michigan is indeed going through a rough-patch in terms of economy; so is the rest of the country--Michigan just happens to be getting hit a little harder than other states. We'll eventually pull through, like we have in every other economic "crisis", in the past. No state, providence, or country's economy is going to sail smoothly forever, without hitting snags here and there.

Before you let your single experience, and the views of a phony documentary form your entire opinion on Michigan, please allow me to recommend some nicer areas of my state you may want to visit, next time you drive through: of course, areas of downtown Detroit are phenomenal, especially if you get a chance to check out some of the restaurants. Many parts of and around the "thumb" are also quite lovely; such as the entire Grosse Pointe area, Port Huron, Rochester, Ferndale, Bloomfield Hills, Northville, Caseville, Algonac, Marysville. On the west side of the state, one of the most beautiful cities is Traverse City, and the surrounding areas such as Interlochen. There are interesting college towns, including, of course, Ann Arbor, and Lansing. If you're near the northern part of the "mitten", Mackinaw City is a bit touristy, but lovely none-the-less, and Mackinac Island is a gorgeous must-see area. Harrisville isn't quite as north, but another beautiful town. Some of the cities of the Upper Peninsula are my favorites, including Sault St. Marie, Munising (probably my absolute favorite), Houghton-Hancock (another college town), and Marquette. Of course, there are beautiful sites to be seen including the coastlines of all of our Great Lakes (Superior being my favorite), Pictured Rocks, any of our hundreds of waterfalls (including Tacquamenon Falls), Sleeping Bear Dunes, and to the far west of the Upper Peninsula: the Porcupine Mountains.

I'm sure some other people who are also familiar with Michigan can suggest more areas; these are just the ones I frequent. But please, before you pity those of us living here, please understand that most of us live here because we choose to live in such a beautiful and diverse state; even if that means suffering through the hard times.

Sorry if that came out a bit preachy--I just hate to see someone write my favorite state off as a bad apple, because of one bad experience and a dweeb like Micheal Moore.

Good luck :)

-Emily

Edited December 9, 2008 by deviousduo

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im sorry but im really **ssed off at some people. i posted a question about the job situation in michigan on yahoo answers and all i get are responses like im lazy or a bum because im unemployed. they say take 2 or 3 minimum wage jobs, how the heck can i do that when no one is calling me back or hiring right now ? id love to work but it's darn near impossible when i apply everywhere and get zero responses back.

i think my wife and i might be looking to move out of michigan later this winter, i hear there are decent jobs or jobs in general out west and down south.

it will only get worse if the big 3 does not get help and they close shop, then thousand upon thousands more will be unemployed.

:angry:

I think he was saying he hasn't gone further than a high school diploma, in terms of education.

-Emily

yeah im just a high school graduate. all of the experience i have is from years of hands on work.

to the person who asked how old i was with 4 kids, im 33.

[Gamerhomie]

Looks like absolutely everyone is feeling the crunch now. Even me. I'm 19, work at a privately owned grocery store. Work for 5 cents above minimum wage. There are rumors that we'll be closing up soon. Well, I gotta go to work now. And by the way, I don't like winter. I go from freezing temperatures to freezing temperatures (I work as the frozen stocker)

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Looks like absolutely everyone is feeling the crunch now. Even me. I'm 19, work at a privately owned grocery store. Work for 5 cents above minimum wage. There are rumors that we'll be closing up soon. Well, I gotta go to work now. And by the way, I don't like winter. I go from freezing temperatures to freezing temperatures (I work as the frozen stocker)

just be thankful you have a job, i was at the mall last night and even starbucks is closing shop after x-mas.

not too sound racist or anything but another BIG problem here in grand rapids is the high population of non english speaking latino that basically work for bare nothing, that's where most of the jobs go to. hard workers + cheap labor = key for good businesses now a days i guess. :crazy:

it's warm out today, but it's suppose to snow this week so we are guaranteed a white x-mas.

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I think he was saying he hasn't gone further than a high school diploma, in terms of education.

It honestly makes me sad that such negative views can be had on such a beautiful state. Of course Michigan has some rough areas, just like every other state, providence and country in the world; it's an inevitability of humanity. Flint just happens to be one of them; so are many parts of Detroit. I've seen much worse areas in many of the southern states. And Michigan is indeed going through a rough-patch in terms of economy; so is the rest of the country--Michigan just happens to be getting hit a little harder than other states. We'll eventually pull through, like we have in every other economic "crisis", in the past. No state, providence, or country's economy is going to sail smoothly forever, without hitting snags here and there.

Before you let your single experience, and the views of a phony documentary form your entire opinion on Michigan, please allow me to recommend some nicer areas of my state you may want to visit, next time you drive through: of course, areas of downtown Detroit are phenomenal, especially if you get a chance to check out some of the restaurants. Many parts of and around the "thumb" are also quite lovely; such as the entire Grosse Pointe area, Port Huron, Rochester, Ferndale, Bloomfield Hills, Northville, Caseville, Algonac, Marysville. On the west side of the state, one of the most beautiful cities is Traverse City, and the surrounding areas such as Interlochen. There are interesting college towns, including, of course, Ann Arbor, and Lansing. If you're near the northern part of the "mitten", Mackinaw City is a bit touristy, but lovely none-the-less, and Mackinac Island is a gorgeous must-see area. Harrisville isn't quite as north, but another beautiful town. Some of the cities of the Upper Peninsula are my favorites, including Sault St. Marie, Munising (probably my absolute favorite), Houghton-Hancock (another college town), and Marquette. Of course, there are beautiful sites to be seen including the coastlines of all of our Great Lakes (Superior being my favorite), Pictured Rocks, any of our hundreds of waterfalls (including Tacquamenon Falls), Sleeping Bear Dunes, and to the far west of the Upper Peninsula: the Porcupine Mountains.

I'm sure some other people who are also familiar with Michigan can suggest more areas; these are just the ones I frequent. But please, before you pity those of us living here, please understand that most of us live here because we choose to live in such a beautiful and diverse state; even if that means suffering through the hard times.

Sorry if that came out a bit preachy--I just hate to see someone write my favorite state off as a bad apple, because of one bad experience and a dweeb like Micheal Moore.

Good luck :)

-Emily

ive lived in michigan my whole life, nobody is saying the state is trash, im saying something has got to be done about the unemployment situation as it's getting worse.

[Mascrin]

I look forward to Spring. Winter gives me the blahs too.

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I look forward to Spring. Winter gives me the blahs too.

im more of a summer guy myself, love the heat and storms.

[DanManIt]

Winter depresses me sometimes too. Just try to find some good in it

[GuJu]

I couldn't imagne livig anymore north than I am (Missouri) we get mild winters and I'm thankful for it

[Panacik]

im sorry but im really **ssed off at some people. i posted a question about the job situation in michigan on yahoo answers and all i get are responses like im lazy or a bum because im unemployed. they say take 2 or 3 minimum wage jobs, how the heck can i do that when no one is calling me back or hiring right now ? id love to work but it's darn near impossible when i apply everywhere and get zero responses back.

i think my wife and i might be looking to move out of michigan later this winter, i hear there are decent jobs or jobs in general out west and down south.

it will only get worse if the big 3 does not get help and they close shop, then thousand upon thousands more will be unemployed.

:angry:

yeah im just a high school graduate. all of the experience i have is from years of hands on work.

to the person who asked how old i was with 4 kids, im 33.

Mate, i would advise probably staying put. Especially when the econimy is so bad, i really dont see how this would make things better. Unless your moving to a big city that has a LOT of jobs compaired.

Otherwis, i cant see how moving your family away from friends and family would help matters at all.

Maybe search for work outside of town before actually moving. That way you will have more of a guarantee.

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im sorry but im really **ssed off at some people. i posted a question about the job situation in michigan on yahoo answers and all i get are responses like im lazy or a bum because im unemployed. they say take 2 or 3 minimum wage jobs, how the heck can i do that when no one is calling me back or hiring right now ? id love to work but it's darn near impossible when i apply everywhere and get zero responses back.

i think my wife and i might be looking to move out of michigan later this winter, i hear there are decent jobs or jobs in general out west and down south.

it will only get worse if the big 3 does not get help and they close shop, then thousand upon thousands more will be unemployed.

:angry:

yeah im just a high school graduate. all of the experience i have is from years of hands on work.

to the person who asked how old i was with 4 kids, im 33.

Ahh, good clarify on the both of you, thanks. I thought you just graduated - I was gonna say, lots on your plate for someone who just graduated.

Yeah, this economy is just a disaster unfortunately :(

[Inklin]

I love winter, but i'd love it even more if we got more snow here in the south east of the UK, Last winter we only had one snow day which melted before lunch time that day :(

we never get snowfall that lasts more than one day really, always warms up too much when the sun comes up.

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well i got a job interview tomorrow morning, let's cross our fingers !!!! :D

it's bitterly cold out here today with highs in the teens and blowing snow. it was 50 degrees and rain last night. :wacko:

no wonder everyone's sick now.

[GuJu]

you know its not even winter yet its still Autumn

[DrunkenMaster]

It honestly makes me sad that such negative views can be had on such a beautiful state. Of course Michigan has some rough areas, just like every other state, providence and country in the world; it's an inevitability of humanity. Flint just happens to be one of them; so are many parts of Detroit. I've seen much worse areas in many of the southern states.

I went through some other parts of Michigan. Not Detroit though, I'm not a fan of large cities - at least not as a "vacation" destination. Other story.

Anyhow, I still feel bad for the people that are employed by the Big 3, and the auto industry as a whole. I can't help but feel for the people's who's lives are effected. Does this mean Detroit is in a dire state? Probably not. Did Moore's movie give me a set example of MI? God no! What it did do was highlight to me the needs of a community that I happened to drive by on the highway. I admit I haven't been to the Southern US much, but I can accept there will be areas much worse. You can find them in your own cities and states anyways. Unfortunately.

[Emily_June]

ive lived in michigan my whole life, nobody is saying the state is trash, im saying something has got to be done about the unemployment situation as it's getting worse.

I have also lived in Michigan all my life.

I was actually responding to and recommending nice areas of Michigan to the person I quoted(DrunkenMaster, I believe), who mentioned driving through a bad part of Michigan and feeling bad for anyone living here, not you. Like I said, I'm very aware of the of the poor economy in our state, and that unemployment is spiking; and again, it makes me sad that so many people are having to move out of Michigan because of it as I love this state.

The 50 degree weather the other day made me sad! I'm so happy it's back under 35, again.

And again, I do wish you luck with your job search, and your interview!

-Emily

I went through some other parts of Michigan. Not Detroit though, I'm not a fan of large cities - at least not as a "vacation" destination. Other story.

Anyhow, I still feel bad for the people that are employed by the Big 3, and the auto industry as a whole. I can't help but feel for the people's who's lives are effected. Does this mean Detroit is in a dire state? Probably not. Did Moore's movie give me a set example of MI? God no! What it did do was highlight to me the needs of a community that I happened to drive by on the highway. I admit I haven't been to the Southern US much, but I can accept there will be areas much worse. You can find them in your own cities and states anyways. Unfortunately.

Well if you ever do get the chance to really check out some of the areas I mentioned, I think you'll find something you like. It really is a beautiful state. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else...yet.

-Emily

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god im so sick of companies advertising jobs, then you go into the interview and they have no current positions and the jobs are not available till the 1st of the year or so. :angry:

it's called : FALSE ADVERTISEMENT AND RECRUITING.

you know its not even winter yet its still Autumn

just for a few more days, when i see snow on the ground it's a michigan winter.

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i know why my wife and i have been so down and depressed lately since our baby was born last month. it seems we both may have a bit of post pardom. we were just talking about it today and we may both seek counseling together as a couple. it's so weird, we both love the kid but we are soo down and out anymore, nothing makes us happy and it seems like we are living different life's all of the sudden.

:(

[Electric Jolt]

Winter is nice when it doesn't look like a disaster of dried out roads and frozen mixed with mushy stuff everywhere. If it is nice covered grass and trees and roads full of sheets of snow, I am ok then. But here in Pennsylvania, all we get is cold and unpleasant days. We are really due for a snowy winter and haven't had a white Christmas in years. I remember waking up years ago to a snow day with like about 6 inches of solid clean snow. But now we don't have that, we get an ugly yellow green Christmas and cold unpleasant days, no wonder why so many people dislike winter. :no:

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Winter is nice when it doesn't look like a disaster of dried out roads and frozen mixed with mushy stuff everywhere. If it is nice covered grass and trees and roads full of sheets of snow, I am ok then. But here in Pennsylvania, all we get is cold and unpleasant days. We are really due for a snowy winter and haven't had a white Christmas in years. I remember waking up years ago to a snow day with like about 6 inches of solid clean snow. But now we don't have that, we get an ugly yellow green Christmas and cold unpleasant days, no wonder why so many people dislike winter. :no:

it was 60 and storms today here. :blink:

[Electric Jolt]

We have days like that in Pennsylvania too. Of course we only hit 50, not 60. In the summer, sometimes it can go to 90 and other times in can rain for a month straight, for example, last summer it rained all June. :(

Spring is my favorite season here in Pennsylvania, it is always the best weather, and not too hot and not too cold. :D

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We have days like that in Pennsylvania too. Of course we only hit 50, not 60. In the summer, sometimes it can go to 90 and other times in can rain for a month straight, for example, last summer it rained all June. :(

Spring is my favorite season here in Pennsylvania, it is always the best weather, and not too hot and not too cold. :D

i just took the garbage out wearing shorts and i wasn't even cold, we still have mounds of snow piles melting too. :wacko:

[Emily_June]

i just took the garbage out wearing shorts and i wasn't even cold, we still have mounds of snow piles melting too. :wacko:

This is the winter weather that's unpleasant, if you ask me.

Hard to believe that a week ago, we were out with the snowblower. And less than a week ago, we were rushing to get out of the -25 degree windchill.

-Emily

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This is the winter weather that's unpleasant, if you ask me.

Hard to believe that a week ago, we were out with the snowblower. And less than a week ago, we were rushing to get out of the -25 degree windchill.

-Emily

crazy stuff, that's why everyone is soo sick right now.

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bone cold out right now, only 8 degrees with - double digit wind chills.

is it summer time yet ? :(