[Official] Dexter Season 4


Recommended Posts

Yeah I definitely get where you're coming from. No doubt either way S5 will be excellent.

-Spenser

Yes, I can't wait. It really sucks that we have to wait, what, 9 months before S5 starts? The time between S3 and 4 didn't see that big of a deal, but this time, with that finale, it seems to far away :|

:p And they really can go in a lot of different directions. My biggest fear, though, is them pulling the "it was all a dream" stunt. I hope they don't do that. As long as they don't do that, I'll be okay with most everything else I can think of...

Yes, I can't wait. It really sucks that we have to wait, what, 9 months before S5 starts? The time between S3 and 4 didn't see that big of a deal, but this time, with that finale, it seems to far away :|

:p And they really can go in a lot of different directions. My biggest fear, though, is them pulling the "it was all a dream" stunt. I hope they don't do that. As long as they don't do that, I'll be okay with most everything else I can think of...

I don't think dexter's writers would ever stoop even close to that low lol. there's a lot of stuff they can do.

Yes, I can't wait. It really sucks that we have to wait, what, 9 months before S5 starts? The time between S3 and 4 didn't see that big of a deal, but this time, with that finale, it seems to far away :|

:p And they really can go in a lot of different directions. My biggest fear, though, is them pulling the "it was all a dream" stunt. I hope they don't do that. As long as they don't do that, I'll be okay with most everything else I can think of...

I don't think dexter's writers would ever stoop even close to that low lol. there's a lot of stuff they can do.

They already confirmed it wasnt a dream

It happened :)

confirmed ealier in this thread I think

They already confirmed it wasnt a dream

It happened :)

confirmed ealier in this thread I think

That's what they say now, but they have also said they haven't even started talking about next season. They won't start until Feb 2010. When they start trying to figure out how to get Dexter out of this mess, it could still end up being on the table.

"[The events of the finale being a dream is] not something we're contemplating at the moment," show runner Clyde Phillips tells me: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with...hgow_julie.html

That tells me that while it isn't something they are looking at now, it is still a possibility, even a slim chance is still a chance. I'm just simply voicing my opposition to that even being a slim possibility.

I'm torn on how I want the next season. While I'd love for it to happen right after so I can see what happened with the fallout. I'd also like it to be a year or so later because I want to see Harrison do more than just cry. I want to see him as a toddler and do something like strangler a pet. Anything that will cause Dexter to worry about his son's future. I'd love to see him teaching his son the code in the later seasons. If he's a baby still it won't be as good. Going to be real hard to cast another villain after Trinity. He set the bar a little too high. I'd be happier if they went with Quinn or something with the police starting to target Dexter like in Season 2. Bring back that Dexter on the run, hiding, trying to evade the police. I loved that about Season 2.

In the book "Dearly Devoted Dexter" Cody starts showing signs of having a dark passenger. I think the writers are gonna explore a similar route with Harrison.

But that won't be for a while, unless they fast-forward pretty far in time. Cody is like 8 or something in the book when he starts showing signs of having a Dark Passenger.

So I'm halfway through the first novel (darkly dreaming dexter) and so far it's exactly like the first season. I understand there are 4 books out, do they all just represent a season? seeing as the writers of the show haven't even thought of what to do with SE5 will it be like the next book that will release sometime next year?

I never expected them to kill of Julie Benz. Killing off a major cast member is typical of the show, though. (Rudy, Doakes, Lundy, Christine).

I am really excited about Season 5.

How are some of those "major cast members"? Rudy was only in a few episodes, Christine was only in a few. Doakes was only in two seasons and Lundy was in under a season and a half. Hardly major cast members.

How are some of those "major cast members"? Rudy was only in a few episodes, Christine was only in a few. Doakes was only in two seasons and Lundy was in under a season and a half. Hardly major cast members.

Doakes had a major role. He was a supporting cast member. And during the second season became a huge antagonist to Dexter. Maybe not so much the others, but killing characters is kinda typical.

Julie Benz Dishes on Dexter Finale

Many Dexter fans are still struggling to come to terms with what was possibly the most shocking death we've ever seen on television last Sunday.

As Jennifer Carpenter (Deb) advised, you will need therapy after this finale, and really, who better to get it from than Julie Benz herself? Especially when she hints that—stop the presses—one option for next season may be to jump forward in time? Hmmmm...!

Read on for a scoopy little one-on-one therapy session with Julie, as she takes you through the five stages of grief...

CREDENTIALS:

"I've been living with news of [Rita's death] a lot longer than everybody else, so I'm in a different place in the grieving process over Rita than everyone else. I really have been grieving Rita, and what she stands for for Dexter, but I do have acceptance."

STAGE 1, DENIAL: Is there any chance Rita is alive? Was it a dream? That she'll be back as a ghost?

"There has been no talk of me coming back to the series in any way. A lot of people have been begging me to tell them that I'm going to come back, and I'm like, 'Rita's dead!' Rita is dead and Trinity killed her. There's all these theories that Dexter did it, or Deb snuck in and did it, but I don't think it could get any more obvious that Trinity killed Rita. Rita is dead. And there has been no talk of Rita being a ghost. No one's approached me about coming back."

STAGE 2, ANGER: Why, why, why? Why Rita? And why did her death have to be so horrifying? She deserved better! What were the writers thinking?

"It is tough, and my first reaction was, 'You're killing the mother of the show! You're killing the woman who's suffered more violence than anybody!' She suffered more violence than Dexter ever suffered. Dexter witnessed the death of his mother, but he didn't suffer any physical violence. Rita was beaten and raped by an ex-husband on a regular basis, and yet she still has this innocence and sweetness about her.

"And the death was such a graphic image. I think that's why everyone has such a physical reaction to it. When they first told me I was dying, they didn't tell me how I was dying, and I thought I was going to be the jumper off the building, which for some reason isn't as graphic. I did feel anger about them taking this innocent, sweet woman in such a violent and terrifying way—which we know from the woman in the bathtub in the first episode.

"And with the baby. All of us were on the set, and we know we're making a TV show, but you see a little baby and fake blood, and it was still a very disturbing image. But it's a poetic way to go, poetic of course, because it's a direct reflection of Dexter as a child and there's poetry in that if you can get past that, which I think is what they were going for."

STAGE 3, BARGAINING: If we don't get more Julie Benz on this show, can we get her on another awesome TV show?

"That's the question, isn't it? There are rumors out there that I left Dexter for a film career—I did not leave Dexter. I don't know anybody in their right mind that would choose to leave Dexter. I did not choose to leave. I love being on television, especially a show like Dexter. I love FlashForward, Grey's Anatomy, Mad Man, 30 Rock. I'd love to be a part of a show where they don't think it's cool to kill me!"

STAGE 4, DEPRESSION: How did the cast react to the news you were leaving?

"There were a lot of tears the whole last week. When I found out, I called Jennifer [Carpenter] right as I was leaving the offices, and she thought I was playing a joke. She couldn't believe it. She was shocked. And then the producers told the rest of the cast because after telling Jennifer I just said I can't do it. It's too hard. I get really emotional thinking about it. It was my family and my favorite place to go every day.

"I relate it to Cinderella and she's at the ball and she's having the time of her life. But it's midnight and she has to leave even though the ball is still going on. It doesn't change her experience because she enjoyed every minute of it but it is time to go home and that is sad."

STAGE 5, ACCEPTANCE: How do you feel about Rita's death now? Do you think it will serve a greater purpose?

"When you make a bold move to kill off a main character, and a bold move to kill off the mother of a newborn, it's a fifty-fifty shot, and kudos to them for taking that risk. So many other shows, so many other networks would have shied away from it. I really hope that it pays off, because I would really hate to see Rita's death be in vain and to lose viewers. I hope it catapults the show to a whole other level. I hope it opens the story up to so much more drama. I hope it opens Dexter up to finally releasing the Dark Passenger within him—let's see the monster that he really is.

"So I have acceptance. In the long run of Dexter, I think it's opening up season five for amazing stuff. As sad as it is that Rita's gone, it's just going to catapult the show into a whole other area. Creatively, it's a brilliant decision."

Final thoughts? And what will happen to Harrison?

"It's been such a great four-year run. I know there are a lot of people saying they won't watch this show anymore, but please just watch. I will be tuning in because I am deeply concerned for my children.

"I assume Astor and Cody will go with their grandparents, but what about Harrison? I know that one option is to have them jump ahead in time. They have the option of taking the story creatively wherever they want. But of course I worry about Harrison. The first thing I said when they told me about Rita's death was, 'What about the children?!' I felt like a real mother, and I will be tuning in to make sure that Harrison is taken care of."

Source

Edited by Rappy

am I the only one who is glad they killed her off? I always thought her character was annoying, I've seen a lot of people saying Deb is an annoying but I found Rita more annoying. She always seem to be moaning at Dexter about something or another.

I don't think some of you are thinking about what Rita went through as Dex's wife. Imagine being married to someone who was hardly ever home, kept tons of secrets, and was relatively closed off from the family. I think Rita had every right to be "whiny". She was a very realistic character IMO.

I don't think some of you are thinking about what Rita went through as Dex's wife. Imagine being married to someone who was hardly ever home, kept tons of secrets, and was relatively closed off from the family. I think Rita had every right to be "whiny". She was a very realistic character IMO.

Damn right!

Cant believe you other people, whiny my ass :p

Dexter is not home 90% of the time

Im surprised she didnt 'whine' more

I don't think some of you are thinking about what Rita went through as Dex's wife. Imagine being married to someone who was hardly ever home, kept tons of secrets, and was relatively closed off from the family. I think Rita had every right to be "whiny". She was a very realistic character IMO.

Totally agree with you. Rita was whiny. But, then she had a right to be. Dexter was caught lying many times. Everytime he said a flimsy lie and in the end Rita bought it because she trusted him. But, you can be lied to only so many times. This season we saw that her trust was waverin. But, even then she never stopped loving dexter. She was worried and even a bit scared, due to her past. She just didn't want to get hurt anymore. Rita was actually one of the more realistic characters.

I guess, now that Rita has gone, Deb will take over. Next season it will be Deb, who will be asking the questions.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • The proportion (or number of iterations) has nothing to with this aspect of Copyright I am describing. In short, it doesn't matter how many times the manager tells you to change something or how. Your work product is always YOURS until and unless you then assign that to the person representing the client/company, usually for financial compensation -- either in salary or as a subcontract work for hire payment. if iterations determined copyright, then businesses would have learned to just keep making changes until they could claim they owned the copyright, without having to compensate the artist for their work. And that would be BAD. The only place where the amount of changes does have a role is in how much does a human modify a previous public domain work (from any source) before it is considered fair use or their own work, etc. For example, if a human makes substantial changes to a public domain (re: AI, by definition) work, then they can then claim that derivative work as their own...but NEVER the original version, of course. That's why anyone can make a movie about Dracula, for example, as long as it is based on the public domain novel, but not if they take new ideas from copyrighted movies made afterwards. As one of the people who personally advised the US Copyright Office on their recent ruling on these very issues, be assured that I specifically used the terminology precisely -- though I made it simple enough for laymen to understand it. If I made this confusing by doing so, I apologize. But, to be clear regarding your assumption that I would agree to your second statement that I quoted above -- the answer is NO. If AI does the work, no matter how much "direction" you give it, it cannot be copyrighted. All AI generated content is in the Public Domain and therefore the copyright cannot be assigned to ANYONE, even you -- until and unless substantial modifications are made to it BY A HUMAN BEING (yourself or a contracted artist/writer/etc.) and then that copyright on the derivative work is legally (in writing) transferred to you. This is a critical distinction. And it is important that people, especially AI sloppers, understand this. For example, YouTube is not paying AI slop generators for the copyright, etc. of their AI slop. What YouTube is doing is sharing AD REVENUE for permission to publish your AI slop. Copyright/ownership/rights never come into it. Importantly, that means that anyone can copy any AI slopware on YouTube, etc. and rehost it anywhere they want, even back on YouTube, and there is nothing legal that YouTube can do about it with regards to copyright protections, ownership, DMCA, etc. Anyone is legally free to use any AI slopware in any way they want. When this ruling was pending, I warned Disney legal of all of this before they did their OpenAI deal -- that it would literally dilute their entire IP portfolio forever. They ignored that warning for the PR and stock bump. But that is why, when the ruling came down last year, Disney quickly extricated themselves from that OpenAI deal, even eating the initial upfront fees -- followed closely by OpenAI ending their entire AI video generating business model. They adjusted their PR release dates to make this less obvious to shareholders, of course. Phew. I hope that this clears up the key distinctions for you and anyone reading. If you have any additional questions or even hypotheticals about AI and Copyright, please feel free to ask.
    • Each of the devices displayed on this page now has a little volume meter next to it to show if there is audio actively playing. About time.
    • Owing to the nature of Windows feature enablement updates, it was distributed over Windows Update services as a complete system upgrade rather than as an ordinary cumulative update
    • Microsoft confirms Windows 11 26H2, urges IT admins to prepare for release by Usama Jawad Windows 11 typically follows an annual update cycle, but Microsoft recently broke that tradition a bit by releasing a "26H1" version in the first half of this year as a "scoped" build for select new silicon PCs only. This version was not available for customers using 24H2 and 25H2 builds, as Microsoft is busy preparing version 26H2 for them, confirmed officially for the first time. In a Windows IT Pro blog, Microsoft has urged IT admins to prepare for the upcoming release of Windows 11 version 26H2. The company has confirmed that this will be a small enablement package (eKB) that will simply light up certain disabled features that are already present in the operating system's code base. This means that the "refined" Windows update and deployment experience will be simpler and quicker, with minimal disruptions, as the feature update will simply toggle a few flags rather than performing a complete replacement. Microsoft has explained that this is all possible because the standard Windows 11 releases share the same servicing branch and hence, the same source code. However, this also means that Windows 11 26H1 users won't be able to upgrade to 26H2 as that is a different branch, but this is something we have known for a while now. Similar to previous annual feature updates, Windows 11 26H2 will offer the following support cycles: 24 months of support for Home, Pro, Pro EDU, and Pro for Workstations editions 36 months of support for Enterprise, Education, IoT Enterprise, and Enterprise Multi-session editions Microsoft has not confirmed a concrete release date for Windows 11 26H2, but noted that it is "coming soon". If we go by the ongoing release cadence, we can expect it to begin rolling out in early October 2026. As such, IT admins have been encouraged to begin validating Windows Insider releases in the Experimental Channel, plan rollout rings, and strategize the utilization of their existing deployment tools.
  • Recent Achievements

    • Collaborator
      ryansurfer98 went up a rank
      Collaborator
    • Week One Done
      Eurosoft10 earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Month Later
      Eurosoft10 earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • One Year In
      Skeet Campbell earned a badge
      One Year In
    • One Month Later
      Sharbel earned a badge
      One Month Later
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      576
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      188
    3. 3
      Michael Scrip
      79
    4. 4
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      78
    5. 5
      neufuse
      72
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!