Lyric Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 To people on neowin.net this system is probably something that's only dreamed of, but this system is actually very slow, and below average on today's standards considering what you likely paid for it. You seriously need a faster CPU and faster Graphics processing. Firstly, are you serious? :blink: I am sure you are just filled with envy and only wish you had a system like this....this system is capable of being the benchmark king in the right hands, and its already proven, as this exact setup (Core i7 + Quad GTX295's) holds the 3DMark Vantage record of P40k....and to say he seriously needs faster CPU & Graphics Processing is undoubtedly a retarded statement. because EVERYBODY has this system now, and its boringly standard now. Let's see those pictures of your Core i7 Extreme, with Quad SLI'd GTX295s or Tri-SLI'd 285s. Because it is so boringly standard now, right?..... :rofl: Here's something for you to chew on for a while. Let this be encouraging because you can do this with an I7 920 with the EVGA X58 classified board ( not to be mistaken with your board). It's 5.4 GHz running at 1.68v and 7-8-7-19-T1 timings at 2:12 Memory. Dram frequency is 1120Mhz, so your computer is lacking in performance of what you can do It's actually running at basically 1.7v (effectively 1.693v). That thing will be fried within a few months, if not weeks if he really runs it 1.7vcore for 24/7 use. I am assuming that is just a benchmark session run and he was probably using either DICE, LN2, or LH Cooling with a CPU Pot for those volts, if not that guy is an idiot. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/726422-anivs-i7-build-second-i7-build-d/page/3/#findComment-590745772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAID 0 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 :) I knew someone was going to say this. Now relax, don't turn a flame into a fire. Although it is true what I said. This forum does NOT evolve around topics like this, and you and I both konw that. Although It would be nicer if they did have more sub-forums here about these subjects, then more overclockers would be here. Trust me you don't know much about this kind of stuff, that's because likley you're here at Neowin, a place that thrives more on other topics that people are more interested in and there's nothing wrong with that. My point still holds correct. I admire your insults though. Keep em commin'. I hope i'm encouraging you. ^^ You knew I was gonna quote Billy Madison? Jesus H. CHRIST MAN!!! Give me the California Lottery numbers for Wednesday!! You sound like a bot. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/726422-anivs-i7-build-second-i7-build-d/page/3/#findComment-590746028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+shift. MVC Posted March 23, 2009 MVC Share Posted March 23, 2009 .Yeah it can get very hot without proper cooling. I'm using hypercooling. My case is freezing cold, but I don't need to enable sub-zero cooling options in my EVGA mobo since the volts are so high it keeps the system at some pretty normal temps. You my friend are quite mistaken. It's not the temperature that is in danger of damaging the CPU, it's the (that's right you guessed it!) VOLTAGE. There have been CPU's that have suffered degradation from voltage even from running at 50C load. http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=428 They fried their QX9650 with just over 1.45v in a 24 hour load test. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/726422-anivs-i7-build-second-i7-build-d/page/3/#findComment-590749180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusG Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 are you serious? :blink: Not exactly, you missed the point of my last few points entirely lol tssk tssk I am sure you are just filled with envy and only wish you had a system like this lol Doesn't everybody have a system like this? Do you not know these things? Have you not been around or researched other forums? This is something you do not know, obviously. ....this system is capable of being the benchmark king in the right hands, and its already proven, as this exact setup (Core i7 + Quad GTX295's) holds the 3DMark Vantage record of P40k.... You've mistaken once again. It's not the I7 that's no good, or the 295's, but the proper dialing and adjustments and hardware, not to mention clocks and methods which this forum is unaware of. This is not a forum based entirely on systems like this, which was my point in the first place. Thanks. and to say he seriously needs faster CPU & Graphics Processing is undoubtedly a retarded statement. He paid almost 1k for the video cards, and the CPU around $249, so excuse me? Yes he does need a faster system with that kind of payment he laid down. Does this mean he needs 'another' system, and was jipped out of his wallet? NO. This basically means he needs to OC his system and get MORE than what he paid for. Yes you're right buddy, he DOES need a faster system so he gets every penny worth, and the whole point is, HE CAN ACHIEVE THIS WITH WHAT HE HAS. Goahead and question me some more Lucky ;) Let's see those pictures of your Core i7 Extreme, with Quad SLI'd GTX295s or Tri-SLI'd 285s. Because it is so boringly standard now, right?..... :rofl: lol you still don't understand me when I say "boringly standard". I was exaggurating a point which you're too dumb ot understand! (ooOO!) ;) And yes, I do have a system like this, that's my point, EVERYONE does. Do you not agree? Or do you not know these things? Doesn't mostly everyone have it now? Well, i guess you wouldn't know anything about that huh :) You post in neowin, this kind of stuff is unknown here. It's actually running at basically 1.7v (effectively 1.693v). l lol please avoid your boasting. There's no need to get tough. I know it feels good, but you need to have more self-control than this. 1.7 is the same, and if you knew what I was talking about you wouldn't have replied with this statement.... ok next.... :D That thing will be fried within a few months, if not weeks if he really runs it 1.7vcore for 24/7 use. I am assuming that is just a benchmark session run and he was probably using either DICE, LN2, or LH Cooling with a CPU Pot for those volts, if not that guy is an idiot. BZZZ! wrong again lol You really need to look this stuff up to understand :) You sound so mad lol Good night buddy, relax and calm down, you will make more sense that way. Now... according to this reply you know nothing about these CPU's lol Should we even go there? His CPU will last him llight years longer then your guess. You knew I was gonna quote Billy Madison? Jesus H. CHRIST MAN!!! Give me the California Lottery numbers for Wednesday!!You sound like a bot. lol I really need to practice my bot skills again. :) Billy Madison. You my friend are quite mistaken. It's not the temperature that is in danger of damaging the CPU, it's the (that's right you guessed it!) VOLTAGE.There have been CPU's that have suffered degradation from voltage even from running at 50C load. http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=428 They fried their QX9650 with just over 1.45v in a 24 hour load test. BZZZ! wrong lol Let me give you some homework. Look up VDROOP :) I'll be your teacher, you be my student. Now go, and look that up. I want you to find how voltages affect temperature fluctuation and you need to type on a peice of "paper" in detail what it does. I'll grade your paper :p And by the way, this will not shorten the life span even to a fraction of death anytime soon, just incase you didn't know. Also, you can't compare a Q9650 with an I7 lol they are entirely different when overclocking and react entirely different... ok you know what, that's enough! I will give you an assignment sheet on this as well... well, you need to complete your first assignment first. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/726422-anivs-i7-build-second-i7-build-d/page/3/#findComment-590751322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDStriker Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 err Marcus he said he didn't want to overclock it yet but will soon are you retarded? :D no not everyone has these kind of Pc's some of us have to work for our money :) wait till he over clocks it before you start bragging to him about how he needs to over clock it more for his e-peen to grow :p but again no one really needs that much processing power for general use and theres no real point to it unless your pc sucks and you want more performance otherwise the i7 is powerful enough to do all the tasks you want and more in the end who really cares about benchmark points if your comp can play your games flawlessly :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/726422-anivs-i7-build-second-i7-build-d/page/3/#findComment-590751426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEX4S Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 (edited) That case went from $999 to $276 ??/ NOw THAT is a sale !!! I love these threads, I get so sick of the "I have 4 dollars, but I want to play Crysis, can you help me ?" or the " I cant afford anything good, so Im just gonna get an e-machine....will it play Crysis ?" nice to see someone who says, "yeah I just dropped $2500 on this....so what ?!?" nice job man, enjoy ! @Marcus -- not sure where to begin with this f*ckt*rd - you are either delirious, or just trolling - feeling all warm and safe behind your Compaq. To say "everyone has this" you really think 1% of the total computer owning populous is "everyone" ?? What gives you the right to talk to someone like that -- nowhere was he bragging, or boasting, or even talking smack ! You are no teacher - youre the forum-equivalent to a scriptkiddie - you 1111111111 all over extremesystems.org wanting to "be one of them" ? - dont come in here bashing neowin by telling someone they know nothing, hence the reason for posting in here -- I dont know if there is a God - but I hope nobody else shows you mercy when you open your mouth to someone in person -- maybe then you'll learn to be more respectful. CLASS DISMISSED Edited March 24, 2009 by TEX4S Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/726422-anivs-i7-build-second-i7-build-d/page/3/#findComment-590751706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAID 0 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 TEX4S (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/726422-anivs-i7-build-second-i7-build-d/page/3/#findComment-590753176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEvan Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 i want the wallpaper on your tv haha Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/726422-anivs-i7-build-second-i7-build-d/page/3/#findComment-590754006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyric Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 @Marcus -- not sure where to begin with this f*ckt*rd - you are either delirious, or just trolling - feeling all warm and safe behind your Compaq. To say "everyone has this" you really think 1% of the total computer owning populous is "everyone" ?? What gives you the right to talk to someone like that -- nowhere was he bragging, or boasting, or even talking smack ! You are no teacher - youre the forum-equivalent to a scriptkiddie - you 1111111111 all over extremesystems.org wanting to "be one of them" ? - dont come in here bashing neowin by telling someone they know nothing, hence the reason for posting in here -- I dont know if there is a God - but I hope nobody else shows you mercy when you open your mouth to someone in person -- maybe then you'll learn to be more respectful. CLASS DISMISSED That pretty much sums up Marcus to a T. (Y) I don't have anything else to add, because further argument with this kid would only lead to him spreading more rumors of which he doesn't know sh*t about. :rolleyes: I'd recommend the kid to a better known forum for dedicate overclocking / high end cooling such as liquid nitrogen, and liquid helium, but they wouldn't have any of him, he'd be banned within a day of joining. :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/726422-anivs-i7-build-second-i7-build-d/page/3/#findComment-590755422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+shift. MVC Posted March 25, 2009 MVC Share Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) BZZZ! wrong lol Let me give you some homework. Look up VDROOP :) I'll be your teacher, you be my student. Now go, and look that up. I want you to find how voltages affect temperature fluctuation and you need to type on a peice of "paper" in detail what it does. I'll grade your paper :pAnd by the way, this will not shorten the life span even to a fraction of death anytime soon, just incase you didn't know. Also, you can't compare a Q9650 with an I7 lol they are entirely different when overclocking and react entirely different... ok you know what, that's enough! I will give you an assignment sheet on this as well... well, you need to complete your first assignment first. There mere fact that you used Vdroop already indicates that you have no idea what you are talking about. I seriously dare you to go to Hard Forums or AnandTech forum and spew the garbage you're talking about right now. You'll get torn apart. Vdroop is a SAFETY precaution for your processor. I have YET to see Vdroop/Vdrop past 0.2v (because if you say you have your voltage at 1.7, a 0.2v vDroop would put load voltage at 1.5v which by the way is still not safe for a 45nm chip for 24/7 use). So with that in mind, tell me how vDroop would save your CPU? You can't compare a QX9650 to a Core i7? Well I hope you know that because of the integrated memory controller in Core i7, it's even MORE sensitive to voltage. Even increasing vDIMM past 1.85v (IF your board and RAM are of good quality)can cause permanent CPU damage (note, incomparison Core 2 vDIMM voltage can go as high as 2.3v) http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=3426 Why else do you think they released low voltage DDR3 RAM when i7 came out? Because OCZ, Crucial, Corsair, Mushkin, Patriot and G.Skill all collectively wanted to do it for major kicks and giggles? Maybe their respective CEO's were like "OH SNAP, let's release some of this low voltage for the heck of it! Tell the other companies about it, it'll be the next best thing!" May God have mercy on your hardware when you decide to build an i7 system. Here's a recommendation, buy a Dynex PSU for it. 100W will be enough to run it and SLI GTX 280's. Edited March 25, 2009 by shift. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/726422-anivs-i7-build-second-i7-build-d/page/3/#findComment-590756034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyric Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 May God have mercy on your hardware when you decide to build an i7 system. Here's a recommendation, buy a Dynex PSU for it. 100W will be enough to run it and SLI GTX 280's. Nah man, don't listen to shift, a 100w is overkill. Get a 65w Power supply, it'll be plenty for those SLI'd GTX280's and a i7 CPU, be sure to crank it up to full load to while its overclocked at like 4.5-5.0GHz with 1.6vcore, and run intel burn test & Prime95 at the same time, it'll stress test that computer of yours good, MarcusG. When you see smoke coming from the motherboard, don't worry thats just the uber sub-zero cooling kicking in. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/726422-anivs-i7-build-second-i7-build-d/page/3/#findComment-590758346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 <Insert All messages from MarcusG> Censored Version: I really can't take credit for this image, I found it a long time ago on a popular Social News website and thought it applied well to the events here. Uncensored Version: http://www.arinmorf.com/wp-content/uploads...3/20040319h.jpg Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/726422-anivs-i7-build-second-i7-build-d/page/3/#findComment-590758722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odom Member Posted March 25, 2009 Member Share Posted March 25, 2009 Am loving this thread :) Haven't had that much fun reading one in a long time. Shouldn't this by now be in the Jokes & Funny stuff? :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/726422-anivs-i7-build-second-i7-build-d/page/3/#findComment-590758750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez8 Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Why would you recommend a 100w psu? I don't think his computer will power on. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/726422-anivs-i7-build-second-i7-build-d/page/3/#findComment-590761284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+shift. MVC Posted March 26, 2009 MVC Share Posted March 26, 2009 Why would you recommend a 100w psu?I don't think his computer will power on. I think you missed my blatantly obvious attempt at sarcasm in response to the garbage spewing from his post. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/726422-anivs-i7-build-second-i7-build-d/page/3/#findComment-590761328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEX4S Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 ....When you see smoke coming from the motherboard, don't worry thats just the uber sub-zero cooling kicking in. Oh, so THATS what that means !!! whew Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/726422-anivs-i7-build-second-i7-build-d/page/3/#findComment-590761596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez8 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I think you missed my blatantly obvious attempt at sarcasm in response to the garbage spewing from his post. Sorry about that, I was in it for the main portion of this thread. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/726422-anivs-i7-build-second-i7-build-d/page/3/#findComment-590765934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duality Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 /me looks over at his rubbish little Q6600 Bog standard now? Wow I must be really behind the times :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/726422-anivs-i7-build-second-i7-build-d/page/3/#findComment-590766032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez8 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 (edited) ^ Not really, I mean if your machine does everything you want it to then there's no reason to be current. People who actually make use of their computers(setting entertainment aside) have pretty old machines. Edited March 27, 2009 by EZ8 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/726422-anivs-i7-build-second-i7-build-d/page/3/#findComment-590766090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aniv Posted March 27, 2009 Author Share Posted March 27, 2009 That case went from $999 to $276 ??/ NOw THAT is a sale !!! Thanks, It went down some more this week to 199+8.25% tax, let me know if Dallas Fry's is out of it. I can secure one for you from Austin. i want the wallpaper on your tv haha Here it is dude (attachment did not work for some reason) Click Here Everyone ignore Marcus please, we dont need to entertain him and argue anymore. That's what he wants :huh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/726422-anivs-i7-build-second-i7-build-d/page/3/#findComment-590766290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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