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My guess is that ABC made a choice between V and FlashForward. They chose V.

which is shocking seeing as FF is a better show but that's subject to opinion I suppose.

it won't make me go back to the show though

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In the wings for midseason: "Off the Map" and comedies "Mr. Sunshine" starring Matthew Perry and "Happy Endings," as well as recently renewed returning drama "V."

While acknowledging waiting a long time to bring back a heavily serialized show like "V" is always a concern, Patmore-Gibbs said the alien invasion drama could return in November. ABC is considering having "V" take over the "Dancing With the Stars" results show slot on Tuesday nights once the reality show airs its fall finale, which will give "V" a genre-appropriate lead-in from superhero drama "No Ordinary Family." The network also wanted to ensure that the special-effects-filled "V" had enough production time before its premiere date.

which means it might return November.

So they're aware of the special effects - does that mean they'll try and make them a bit more realistic next season?

The only time they look terrible is when they're white. The hologramish ones, the ships, they look fine. They need to drop the white crap.

The episode tonight was very good. Chopping down the cast for next season though. Next season will be a lot more action oriented, I think.

I guess I am one of the few that are liking this. :p

The effects aren't a big deal. It's just a TV show.

The thing that gets me is how elaborate they try to make the special effects, which just makes it look silly. I'm sure they've wasted a big portion of their budget on the effects, which look rather bad to be honest. Shows like "FlashForward" and "Fringe" are way more subtle with their effects. I understand that this is a little different given the nature of the shows, but still. Even when it comes to the costumes and sets, "V" needs massive improvement.

The acting isn't great, the storyline is rather weak, the villains are one-dimensional, the effects aren't good... there's just so much that needs fixing.

Good show, surprised to see some people complaining in this thread, I suppose some people are never happy and will point out every little detail to nitpick at. It's nice to see it got renewed especially with the ending of the finale that left me wondering what is to happen next. As for who's complaining about special effect, remember this is a television series and they don't have the big budgets that movie studios have to produce state of the art effects. Please define what you think constitutes bad acting, so far most of the acting has been well done and I haven't seen much of anything that is suggestive of bad acting.

my understanding is marcus wants the research so he can destroy it and keep people from using it against the v's and hobbs who is a scumbag terrorist doesn't really care about selling 5th column oit.

I think there is a chance he'll give him wrong info or also sell the info to someone else.

The thing that gets me is how elaborate they try to make the special effects, which just makes it look silly. I'm sure they've wasted a big portion of their budget on the effects, which look rather bad to be honest. Shows like "FlashForward" and "Fringe" are way more subtle with their effects. I understand that this is a little different given the nature of the shows, but still. Even when it comes to the costumes and sets, "V" needs massive improvement.

The acting isn't great, the storyline is rather weak, the villains are one-dimensional, the effects aren't good... there's just so much that needs fixing.

Sets and costumes? Really?

Show me a 'bad' costume.

Good show, surprised to see some people complaining in this thread, I suppose some people are never happy and will point out every little detail to nitpick at. It's nice to see it got renewed especially with the ending of the finale that left me wondering what is to happen next. As for who's complaining about special effect, remember this is a television series and they don't have the big budgets that movie studios have to produce state of the art effects. Please define what you think constitutes bad acting, so far most of the acting has been well done and I haven't seen much of anything that is suggestive of bad acting.

I think some people mistake the purposeful woodenness of the Vs for bad acting.

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Sets and costumes? Really?

Show me a 'bad' costume.

The ambassador uniforms (And V uniforms) look like a cheap imitation of Star Trek's old uniforms. The "lizard" alien costumes -- in the brief instances we've seen them -- look like crap. And those are the two main "costumes" in the series, so I'd say that's a pretty big deal.

@ Xtreme2damax: The FBI agent (name escapes me at the moment, Olivia maybe?) and her son are atrocious actors, and they're the main characters, I'd say. The son is absolutely horrible in expressing how a teenager truly feels -- it's like he's never experienced teenage hormones before in his life. His mother lacks subtlety in anything she does, from dialogue to facial expressions to body language, just like the actor who plays Mark in FlashForward. She's cardboard, to say the least.

And I never said the effects had to be on-par with a movie. I never even remotely hinted that. I said they need to be on-part with other network television shows, not some crappy Syfy channel B-movie. They need to stop relying on computer generation for absolutely everything and start making props for some of this stuff, as I'm sure it'd be a much better use of their budget.

Still whatever anyone's views the show is still a good time waster for when there is nothing else to watch or do, my Tuesday's are pretty boring so I'm glad there is at least something on the grabs my interest. I do think some things should have been a bit better, but the show is fairly good despite and minor flaws it may have. I'd rather see this, than crap such as Dancing with the stars, garbage generic comedies with laugh tracks, more nurse interns getting it on with other nurse interns, other reality crap shows.. ;)

@Aye, Ok there may be some flaws but it's not so bad that it ruins the show. The FBI agent's acting isn't all that bad, she just needs to be cautious as to not hint that she's working against the V's which may give off the impression of bad acting. Her son on the other hand I've never really cared for and would have to agree. He still plays a part in the story though, so it wouldn't make sense to get rid of him.

The ambassador uniforms (And V uniforms) look like a cheap imitation of Star Trek's old uniforms. The "lizard" alien costumes -- in the brief instances we've seen them -- look like crap. And those are the two main "costumes" in the series, so I'd say that's a pretty big deal.

Ok then, what would be a 'good' uniform?

@ Xtreme2damax: The FBI agent (name escapes me at the moment, Olivia maybe?) and her son are atrocious actors, and they're the main characters, I'd say. The son is absolutely horrible in expressing how a teenager truly feels -- it's like he's never experienced teenage hormones before in his life. His mother lacks subtlety in anything she does, from dialogue to facial expressions to body language, just like the actor who plays Mark in FlashForward. She's cardboard, to say the least.

Emily? Olivia is FF. She was always great on Lost, and she's just fine on V.

And I never said the effects had to be on-par with a movie. I never even remotely hinted that. I said they need to be on-part with other network television shows, not some crappy Syfy channel B-movie. They need to stop relying on computer generation for absolutely everything and start making props for some of this stuff, as I'm sure it'd be a much better use of their budget.

Again, besides the 'white' items they show, and some of the lizard stuff (the baby's tail was pretty junk) a lot of the effects are just fine.

I forgot to also point out the obvious plot hole as well. Why doesn't the ship have microphones throughout it recording what people say? Every utopia I've ever seen in films, tv and games has this sort of mechanism. If these aliens can travel to planets and know they have a threat called the Fifth Column, why have they never implemented such a simple technology?

I forgot to also point out the obvious plot hole as well. Why doesn't the ship have microphones throughout it recording what people say? Every utopia I've ever seen in films, tv and games has this sort of mechanism. If these aliens can travel to planets and know they have a threat called the Fifth Column, why have they never implemented such a simple technology?

Or cameras. I thought of that too when Emily was sneaking around. Especially since they have tiny cameras in all the ambassador uniforms.

Good show, surprised to see some people complaining in this thread, I suppose some people are never happy and will point out every little detail to nitpick at. It's nice to see it got renewed especially with the ending of the finale that left me wondering what is to happen next. As for who's complaining about special effect, remember this is a television series and they don't have the big budgets that movie studios have to produce state of the art effects. Please define what you think constitutes bad acting, so far most of the acting has been well done and I haven't seen much of anything that is suggestive of bad acting.

I totally agree with you.

Joshua NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(

On second thought HE'S REVIVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Uh Marcus is a 5th Column?

That is what I was asking last night. Not sure if he revived because he is 5th column or because he want to get info from him. Pretty good episode last night.

Man im so sad i have to wait to see where this goes. This last episode rocked. I havent gotten so into a tvshow since..Babylon 5. I love the whole show, it has a few corny moments here n there but overall i think its very well done and the story is amazing thus far.

Im really curious what all the clouds n stuff that are a result of anna 'starting the reaction' are about. It could also mean that since she broke away from her plan, that she has a weakness. Now that shes had emotion i wonder if shes going to start making more mistakes.

I also thought it was cool that Lisa got called my queen, and that she got to have the evil little smile for a change.

The shows very dynamic i love it

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