[OSx86] Got Mac OS X on my MSI Wind but I have a problem

[maash]

So I finally got the MSI Wind with MAC OS X installed (I had a legal Disc)

Now i have a problem. Realtek recently unofficially released drivers for the MSI Wind Wifi card. I install it, it installs and asks me to reboot. I reboot but when i come back there is still not Wifi.

I just want to make sure I am using the right drivers, this is the MSI Wind with the B/G/N wireless

When i go in network I see bluetooth and Ethernet but no WLAN option

Thanks

[Rudy]

i believe you need to use their utility every time you want to use the wireless. The wifi card in the Wind doesn't work 100% with OSX

[Nemo Live]

So you did end up getting the MSI Wind. I remember you ordered the Aspire.

I trust you're aware of insanelymac.com because that's the end-all-be-all for all things OSx86 especially the Wind.

[maash]

  Nemo Live said:

So you did end up getting the MSI Wind. I remember you ordered the Aspire.

I trust you're aware of insanelymac.com because that's the end-all-be-all for all things OSx86 especially the Wind.

well i sold my aspire because my wife said 8.9 was too small and i got the deal of the century with the msi wind. BT, Wirless N, 6-cell for only 300 new. it retails for 380 in other places.

  Rudy said:

i believe you need to use their utility every time you want to use the wireless. The wifi card in the Wind doesn't work 100% with OSX

which utility are you referring to?

[Rudy]

The driver you got from Realtek should include a utility of some sort that you must run to get wifi (at least that's what I heard)

[Failurbydesign]

i had bought a few netgear wg111v3 at frys for ten bucks a piece..anyways it uses the realtek utility..unfortunately that wifi built in the wind needs that lame utility for os x..look into swapping out the wifi for a dell wifi as i understand those work great!

Here is some info for you

Broadcom will be seen as an airport device

http://cgi.ebay.com/Dell-DW-1390-b-g-WLAN-...bayphotohosting

http://www.248am.com/mark/kuwait/the-msi-wind-and-mac-os-x/

My thought its worth the 13.95 with free shipping to try it out! Just make sure the cards are the same size and power..ect..

and here is the wifi in the msi wind

Edited April 19, 2009 by Failurbydesign

[Southern Patriot]

Even better would be to spend a little more and get an actual Apple Airport card off eBay. I got mine for my AA1 for about $20 on eBay, although shipping took a while since it was coming from China. It was a used Airport N card pulled from a Macbook or Macbook Pro. Works perfectly and is detected with no problems, even during setup.

[CyberManifest]

Here are a few links for your enjoyment:

http://forums.msiwind.net/mac/great-news-r...-t3986-160.html

http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/15/realtek...-msi-u100-wind/

http://www.liliputing.com/2008/12/wifi-dri...nning-os-x.html

Also have a look at these...

http://wiki.msiwind.net/index.php/Main_Page

http://forums.msiwind.net/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSI_Wind_Netbook#OSx86

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSx86

[Bad Boy Nibbler]

edited thanx for the link onyx

Edited April 20, 2009 by windowsgurz

[0nyX]

  windowsgurz said:

isn't this against forums rules to talk about running macosx on non apple hardware

aka hacked pc versions

No.

[Adolf]

Nice of Neowin to allow talk about OSx86. Doesn't it say in Apple's EULA that installing their OS on anything but Apple hardware is illegal?

[Southern Patriot]

  Adolf said:

Nice of Neowin to allow talk about OSx86. Doesn't it say in Apple's EULA that installing their OS on anything but Apple hardware is illegal?

EULA is not the same as law. Apple would have a hard time going after end users for installing their OS on a PC, but they can certainly refuse to support it.

[Snowl]

Nah, it just has to have a apple sticker on it.

[Failurbydesign]

  roadwarrior said:

Even better would be to spend a little more and get an actual Apple Airport card off eBay. I got mine for my AA1 for about $20 on eBay, although shipping took a while since it was coming from China. It was a used Airport N card pulled from a Macbook or Macbook Pro. Works perfectly and is detected with no problems, even during setup.

Good Call! Having an OS x86 system of my own i got in the habit of using no apple hardware (not parts from macbook/imac..ect..) and it didn't cross my mind! :laugh:

[Eric Veteran]

  Adolf said:

Nice of Neowin to allow talk about OSx86. Doesn't it say in Apple's EULA that installing their OS on anything but Apple hardware is illegal?

See the link 0nyX provided. Violating a license agreement isn't a crime, it only nullifies the agreement. (a.k.a. no support from Apple.)

[the evn show]

  GreyWolfSC said:

See the link 0nyX provided. Violating a license agreement isn't a crime, it only nullifies the agreement. (a.k.a. no support from Apple.)

The part of the reasoning I was never able to follow was that the only thing separating a 'legal' copy of a piece of software and an illegal copy (ie: one borrowed from work and installed on your home computers) was the license.

If installing on a "non-Apple branded computer" (or whatever the hell the click-through agreement says) voids the license then what authorizes your use of that software? If it's not the EULA then why should I be bound by other restrictions like "one copy, one computer", "don't hack this to enable 'paid upgrades' (like turning Vista Home into Ultimate)", and "destroy your copies if you resell your license"?

The basic foundation of EULA licenses is copyright law. By default you don't have any right to use a piece of software unless you made it yourself. Software companies say "If you agree to the following rules then I will grant you the right to use this software, if you find any of the terms objectionable then you can return this software for a refund."*

If you agree to the terms then you're free to use the software as you see fit (within the realm of that license). If you violate those terms then your license is revoked. Likewise, if you don't purchase the software then you are never in possession of a valid license in the first place. Either way you don't have authorization to use it. In some countries licenses must be visible before you install the software in order to be valid (so, my copy of Windows Vista that doesn't include a license in the box wouldn't meet that requirement).

Would you be able to explain to me:

• How is running Microsoft Windows without a valid license unacceptable.
  
• How is running Apple Mac OS X without a valid license acceptable.
  
• What makes violating one part of a license (ie: the "don't install on non-macs" bit) less of an offense than others (ie: only install this copy of WindowBlinds on one machine)?
  

While I agree with the principle that software licenses as they sit today shouldn't be valid from a moral standpoint, I'm not able to form an argument that this is true in reality. Also, I'm not challenging the decision of the moderators/staff: it's your board, do what you will, but I am curious what reasoning you used to set aside the obvious objections laid out above. I'm sure you had solid legal council before you reversed your stance a year ago so, if possible, I'd like to here the arguments your lawyer(s) made before that caused you to settle on this position.

If nothing else, a reasoned explanation on why EULAs are enforceable and unnecessary for using software might help me be more effective lobbying my government for copyright reform.

* Mac OS X 10.5 Family Pack Manual (page 72, paragraph 1).