Ludexiz Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I notice in OS X, everything is real smooth. There is little or no motion blur (can read text clearly) when you drag objects around. And scrolling with the mouse wheel in browsers is all smooth n stuff. In windows it jerks rather than float. Is there any way to get windows to feel all clean the way OS X does? Like some kind of 3rd party desktop rendering engine? or shell? I have no idea what's responsible for this. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769626-getting-windows-to-be-smooth/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneKnee Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Depends. There is no alternative desktop rendering or "shell" that can improve this. The reason why Vista's desktop management is sluggish is because of the way Microsoft implemented it. Also, Drivers and the hardware you use are a critical factor as well. If you want a smoother experience, go with Windows 7. Microsoft really improved things in Windows 7 by cutting some fat from the bloat. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769626-getting-windows-to-be-smooth/#findComment-590964270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMIT Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 :huh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769626-getting-windows-to-be-smooth/#findComment-590964278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
waruikoohii Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 (edited) Erm...no version of Windows should lag on you. Make sure your drivers are up to date. As far as "motion blur" don't use cheap LCD's. Use LCD's with low refresh times (under 5 ms). Edited May 8, 2009 by waruikoohii Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769626-getting-windows-to-be-smooth/#findComment-590964346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEX4S Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Erm...no version of Windows shouldn't lag on you.... re-read what you typed -- are you sure thats what you meant ? every version of Windows SHOULD lag ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769626-getting-windows-to-be-smooth/#findComment-590964376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
waruikoohii Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 re-read what you typed -- are you sure thats what you meant ?every version of Windows SHOULD lag ? It was fixed before you even posted. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769626-getting-windows-to-be-smooth/#findComment-590964386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEX4S Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 DoH! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769626-getting-windows-to-be-smooth/#findComment-590964396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C++ Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Like waruikoohii said, the "motion blur" (or ghosting) is the result of a poor refresh rate on your monitor. Nothing to do with your operating system. And to be honest, your whole clear readability complaint makes me facepalm, because Mac OS' font smoothing sucks compared to Windows' ClearType. Apple needs to stop pretending that a screen is paper and tune their retarded sub-pixel font rendering to the pixel grid. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769626-getting-windows-to-be-smooth/#findComment-590964398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEX4S Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 If his video drivers arent installed correctly - or has some lame ass computer specs - it too could cause these issues. When you are using the generic VGA driver - it is horrible. Also, if his computer is crap possibly it cant re-render the image fast enough - or like others mentioned - the LCD sucks. Knowing the OP's system specs would help a great deal. OS-X does have a rather simplistic rendering - Vista or even better Win7 should be used to really decide what the problematic variable is -- if any. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769626-getting-windows-to-be-smooth/#findComment-590964468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludexiz Posted May 9, 2009 Author Share Posted May 9, 2009 no no the LCD is fine, and drivers are up to par. when i use that er OS X (10.4 for intel) well ya know what i mean by that, it appears just fine. no blur, all smooth, perfecto. maybe you're right about the simplistic rendering. was just wonderin if there was something like a gdi++ type thing (made the fonts all smooth that i found in someone's thread below in this forum) but for the desktop itself instead of only the fonts :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769626-getting-windows-to-be-smooth/#findComment-590964814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
solardog Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 What are your specs? Vista is silky on my machine. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769626-getting-windows-to-be-smooth/#findComment-590966584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
waruikoohii Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 no no the LCD is fine, and drivers are up to par. when i use that er OS X (10.4 for intel) well ya know what i mean by that, it appears just fine. no blur, all smooth, perfecto. maybe you're right about the simplistic rendering. was just wonderin if there was something like a gdi++ type thing (made the fonts all smooth that i found in someone's thread below in this forum) but for the desktop itself instead of only the fonts :) Your LCD apparently isn't fine if it's ghosting :p As far as ClearType (for font smoothing)...why don't you tune it? I don't remember if Vista has a built in utility (I'm on 7, which does), but tuning ClearType will make it look better (usually...I find the defaults to actually work fine in most cases). Oh, and make sure you're at your LCD's native resolution. As far as Vista not operating smoothly, and 10.4 operating smoothly on the same hardware...if this is true, then your Vista drvers aren't up to par. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769626-getting-windows-to-be-smooth/#findComment-590966602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Jolt Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I wish they would fix some of those rough spots such as the fast-user switching feature which blanks the display when switching users, and it is more retarded more than ever now with locking on Vista/2008 and 7/2008R2 making it just lock and then having to click switch user which then blanks it out. Very confusing process, on Mac OS X, I always loved how it did a cube effect with your desktop switching to the other user's desktop or to the login screen, it was so much smoother IMO. Never made sense to me why they never attempted to fix this, but confuse it even more with locking and switching users... :wacko: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769626-getting-windows-to-be-smooth/#findComment-590966678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDStriker Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 ^ Blanks out? you mean the screen goes black while it does that? you need to check your video card out unless i'm missing something here :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769626-getting-windows-to-be-smooth/#findComment-590968136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 ill admit for some reason apple computers look more polished than windows based pc's. as to why, i have no clue? :blink: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769626-getting-windows-to-be-smooth/#findComment-590968182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Depends. There is no alternative desktop rendering or "shell" that can improve this.The reason why Vista's desktop management is sluggish is because of the way Microsoft implemented it. Also, Drivers and the hardware you use are a critical factor as well. If you want a smoother experience, go with Windows 7. Microsoft really improved things in Windows 7 by cutting some fat from the bloat. There is no problem with the way Aero is implemented, on any computer with a compatible graphics chip and 1GB of ram or more it works pretty smoothly. People often try to run it on inadequate hardware and then wonder why it doesn't work flawlessly. Also bear in mind that OSX Tiger is slightly old and won't stress your hardware as much as Visdta Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/769626-getting-windows-to-be-smooth/#findComment-590968216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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