Is anyone else bothered by This

[Zickar]

I haven't been to Firefox's homepage for sometime but today I did and was a little bit dissapointed with the greeting : "Using Internet Explorer is So 2006" And then scrolling down a bit you'll see how well Firefox compares to IE .... You'll also see a switching tips section to help you switch from IE to Firefox ... Is anyone else bothered by this ?? When did Firefox become so anti-IE ?? Sure it was and still is the opposite of everything IE stands for but why is Firefox singling out IE ?? WTF

Don't get me wrong , I'd rather have my Firefox over any snappy fast Chrome or shiny IE but I still wonder why Firefox did this : http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ie.html

[SharpGreen]

I'd say I agree with the firefox page, but I don't want to cause trouble.

[Raa]

It's been that for a while, and yes, there are people out there that do this. I get ****ed off when I visit a website and it nazi's me by saying "You should be using Firefox, click here to continue browsing the site" blah blah. I'll use what I want to use.

Anti-IE'ing is so 2006. I wish people like that would get over it. IE's not going anywhere, and unfortunately neither is FireFox. Let people have their choice, but don't shove banners, ads and other FUD in their faces.

[Timmah339]

because the average user uses internet explorer as it is the only pre-installed/integrated browser. also, firefox does beat IE in pretty much everything they mention. ;)

[anarkhy]

i would say using firefox is so 2006... since i tried chrome, when the geeks at firefox will realize that a good ui is a fundamental part of a product today?

[Kevin.]

Well I'm not surprised. Since Firefox is a competitor to IE and other browsers, naturally, they'll want to talk about how great they are and convince the user to switch to them.

[Berserk87]

i would say using firefox is so 2006... since i tried chrome, when the geeks at firefox will realize that a good ui is a fundamental part of a product today?

im using firefox right now, but i use chrome on my netbook.

[Zickar]

Well Firefox might beat IE in a lot of areas, there is no denying to that but you look at other browsers outhere , Specially Chrome for example and it beats firefox in many other areas like multiprocess tabbing , Faster Java rendering and so on , Why haven't they compared themselves to Chrome ?? Why does firefox wanna put itself in this corner ?? IMO Firefox is not the perfect browser , Neither is Chrome or IE or any other browser , Its just a matter of personal taste ... Some people like Firefox ,Some people like Chrome , Others like Opera , Others like IE and so on ... IMO Firefox should just focus on what seperates them from the rest of the pack , they already lost the speed game and IMO Its not a big deal for me but now they should focus on their extendibilty that leads to productivity , They should focus on improving themselves rather than insuilting others , As an Avid Firefox user and fanatic , I know I will be insulted if I go to a page and they say Firefox is so 2008 !!!

[Calum Veteran]

I reckon they could be singling out Internet Explorer because not only does it have the highest market share, but many users use IE as it is the built-in browser in Windows. A lot of these people don't even know an alternative exists.

Not only this, but most of these people use an outdated version of Internet Explorer - either 6 or 7 :(

This is such a pain for us web developers as they are both appalling at displaying a lot of web pages which were built with web standards in mind; for this reason, I think this is very fair. Anything to convince people to stop using Internet Explorer 6 and 7.

[code.kliu.org]

Aside from being the big juicy target, Mozilla's mission statement is to improve the Web (and by Web, I mean open-standards Web; Mozilla has publicly stated that Adobe Flash and MS Silverlight are the biggest threats to the Web). This is why they are adding things like native video support (no plugins!) to 3.5 (it's a part of the new HTML5 standard). And in order to save the world from Flash and Silverlight, there has to first be a better Web platform so that webmasters feel less compelled to resort to anti-Web technologies like Flash (disclosure: I personally loathe Flash with every fiber of my being, so I may be a wee bit biased in my views here :p). Mozilla has always been about the platform. This is also why they think that killing IE is more important than fighting off WebKit (which is also helping advance the Web as a platform, though WebKit still lags behind in many areas).

[Stetson]

I reckon they could be singling out Internet Explorer because not only does it have the highest market share, but many users use IE as it is the built-in browser in Windows. A lot of these people don't even know an alternative exists.

Not only this, but most of these people use an outdated version of Internet Explorer - either 6 or 7 :(

This is such a pain for us web developers as they are both appalling at displaying a lot of web pages which were built with web standards in mind; for this reason, I think this is very fair. Anything to convince people to stop using Internet Explorer 6 and 7.

I think that, at least at one point, if you visited the site using Safari you got a table comparing Firefox to Safari.

[zhangm Supervisor]

I was pro-Firefox and anti-IE for a long time. I've switched back to IE recently.

Too many people confuse preference with blind loyalty. IE8 had some features that I liked, and Firefox anti-MS bullcrap got annoying (*recall the discussions about how the Linux Tango theme was "good enough" for Windows users*). I feel like the Firefox community has evolved into a blundering giant that is impeded because it has picked up users with non-productive mentalities: "Screw Winblows, I'm a H4xxorr!" and "I'm better than you because I use foxfire becuase my friends toldme to lolol11" and "Me too, ME TOO!!!"

It is a bit sad, but it is also the nature of popularity, and Mozilla deserves the kudos for taking Firefox from nothing to what it is today, for all the good and bad that it has done.

[x3lumin8x]

Firefox <---- way, way over rated.

[Calum Veteran]

I think that, at least at one point, if you visited the site using Safari you got a table comparing Firefox to Safari.

Ahh, I wonder why they may have changed it then? It currently just displays the Internet Explorer information in both Safari and Chrome. Either way, Microsoft deserve this for what they have done to the web developing community. It may have been done by accident, but instead of continuing to develop on top of Trident, they could have gone with Gecko or Webkit whilst they created a rendering engine which could compete and didn't hinder web developers. It's despicable.

[Growled Member]

I use IE8 and Firefox. I say just use what works for you and let others do likewise.

[primexx]

the chart at the bottom is sooo wrong. IE is not compatible with modern web pages and technology.

[Reacon]

I'm a proud user of both. How bout that?

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

the chart at the bottom is sooo wrong. IE is not compatible with modern web pages and technology.

That's what bothered me as well.

[Zickar]

Ahh, I wonder why they may have changed it then? It currently just displays the Internet Explorer information in both Safari and Chrome. Either way, Microsoft deserve this for what they have done to the web developing community. It may have been done by accident, but instead of continuing to develop on top of Trident, they could have gone with Gecko or Webkit whilst they created a rendering engine which could compete and didn't hinder web developers. It's despicable.

Although Internet Explorer being uninstallable on Windows 7 was such a big deal and although I'm almost sure that IE is uninstallable from older Windows like XP I'm using but somehow , SOmeway I don't have IE and even when I search the whole PC it doesn't find IE !! So its not a matter of missing shortcut or something , Its actually a matter of IE not being there, Although there is a folder named Internet Explorer but no IE in it !!! Its a good thing I think , I never really felt comfortable around IE

[Azusa]

the whole FF VS IE thing is pointless.

[IceDogg]

That is NOT Firefox's 'homepage'. http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/firefox.html is. And viewing the homepage's source there isn't even a link to that page from Firefox's 'homepage'.

Edit: There is a Firefox to IE comparison on the homepage though.

Edited June 6, 2009 by IceDogg

[Eice]

I reckon they could be singling out Internet Explorer because not only does it have the highest market share, but many users use IE as it is the built-in browser in Windows. A lot of these people don't even know an alternative exists.

TBH nothing has really changed. Before it was people only know about IE and were unaware of other superior alternatives, now they know about IE and Firefox and are still unaware of other superior alternatives.

[Nomad_]

Fanboy Dogma

Firefox - A New Religion?

http://www.populartechnology.net/2005/01/f...w-religion.html

:yes:

[iamwhoiam]

Although Internet Explorer being uninstallable on Windows 7 was such a big deal and although I'm almost sure that IE is uninstallable from older Windows like XP I'm using but somehow , SOmeway I don't have IE and even when I search the whole PC it doesn't find IE !! So its not a matter of missing shortcut or something , Its actually a matter of IE not being there, Although there is a folder named Internet Explorer but no IE in it !!! Its a good thing I think , I never really felt comfortable around IE

You may not have iexplore.ex on your computer, but IE is still there. The Trident engine is IE and without it would break a lot of internal OS stuff, not to mention 3rd party apps.

[Doli]

That is NOT Firefox's 'homepage'. http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/firefox.html is. And viewing the homepage's source there isn't even a link to that page from Firefox's 'homepage'.

Edit: There is a Firefox to IE comparison on the homepage though.

The home page is www.mozilla.com/firefox and if you use IE to view it, it spits out the "Using Internet Explorer

is So 2006" version http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ie.html.

the chart at the bottom is sooo wrong. IE is not compatible with modern web pages and technology.

Relly? I seem view modern web pages and technology just fine in IE.