Safari 4 available to download

[Unto Darkness]

What they said about Javascript is incorrect though. I've ran sunspider on both Chrome (latest beta) and Safari (4) and Chrome is actually just a little faster. Difference is insignificant, but still... I wonder where they got their numbers!

* Result for V8 is that Chrome is significantly faster.

That left aside, I really like the font rendering on Standard for LCD stuff and I'm gonna give Safari a try for now. If there was a way to disable taskbar thumbnails in 7...

Actually, Apple stated that it is faster than Chrome 2.0 and never mentioned 3.0 beta. It is the fastest browser (excluding beta versions).

However, Safari 4 isn't the first browser to reach a score of 100 in the Acid3 test. Opera 10 Beta is.

[Darrian]

I'm running the latest version of Chrome. Clicking on the link in my taskbar to appearing on-screen, loaded and ready to go is nearly instantaneous, and I don't even have a SSD. Firefox takes 2-3 seconds, at least, with my extensions. IE8... who cares? Anyway, the point is that if this version of Safari happens to use a newer version of Webkit than Chrome 3.0.183.1 then we can at least take comfort in knowing Chrome will get it eventually, but it's plenty fast as it is.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

Actually, Apple stated that it is faster than Chrome 2.0 and never mentioned 3.0 beta. It is the fastest browser (excluding beta versions).

However, Safari 4 isn't the first browser to reach a score of 100 in the Acid3 test. Opera 10 Beta is.

I think the beta got 100/100 as well, so if we're counting beta's then it's still Safari (They're going good, first to pass Acid2 and the first to pass Acid3)

[Jase]

Wish there was Mouse Gesturing in this browser, I feel thats the only thing letting me move to Safari.

[Rudy]

it's a shame they backed down on having the tabs on top :(

[Snakehn]

Safari has crashed on me about 4 times since yesterday, already did a reset and still, anybody else having this issue?

[Phantom Helix]

yeah final isnt as good as beta imo

[Guest]

The RSS button and loading icon in the address bar reek of the rumoured Marble UI for Snow Leopard.

[John S. Veteran]

Smoother than beta, tabs are back where they belong, so the hack isn't needed to move them back. The only thing I don't like is the progress indicator bouncing from the URL bar to the tab--depending on which tab is selected.

[andrew_f]

Wish there was Mouse Gesturing in this browser, I feel thats the only thing letting me move to Safari.

You could always install cocoasuite. That lets you put mouse gestures in any cocoa application.

[Calum Veteran]

No the fonts are fine everywhere but the tabs, changing the settings just makes them all extremely blurry and unreadable on any setting but windows standard for me.

There's nothing wrong with the fonts on my tabs, as far as I am aware.

Lol. They really forgot to test Windows 7. Peek doesn't work even though thumbnails are there (but flimsy).

It works fine for me :) The fade, when hovering over different tabs isn't implemented the best way, but peeking to different tabs definately works and I really love that they've included that in this release.

I experienced the pinning bug, though.

Grr, and I was just starting to like the more slimmed UI by tabs on top. :( (or rather, replacing the title bar, so you win a row of vertical space)

So odd that they didn't turn it into a preference now that they had the code done anyway. :s

I'm actually gutted that they scrapped the 'tabs on top' idea; gutted. I see no reason, whatsoever, why they couldn't keep it as an option? Seriously, does anyone know why they couldn't? It's obvious, from this thread that some people liked it and some didn't. I loved it. I actually thought it was very elegant and looked really nice. I suppose it wasn't as usable at times; for example if you had other windows behind, showing through the glass tabs... so maybe that is why...?

Honestly, with Chrome being available, I see little reason to use Safari on Windows. It used to be the only mainsteam way to get webkit on the platform, but now Google's software exists and it just runs better.

On Windows, I think Safari 4 looks beautiful. While it looks a bit like Chrome, it looks much better than Chrome. Chrome uses horrible icons for folders and the star. Also, I really don't like Chrome's 'blue-ish' look on Windows 7.

As for functionality - Safari's 'find' function is better than Chrome's on Windows. It's really nice the way they have implemented the 'find' function.

Also, there are more, useful, options in Safari. For example, you can bookmark a whole tab-set and also it warns you when closing multiple tabs - two very useful features. As far as I am aware, Chrome doesn't have these features.

I've decided, I will try Safari out as my default browser for a bit to see if I will keep it. I think it is now the best browser out there.

One question, though - is there any way to set the search provider to Bing, on the Windows version? If not, I really have no use for the search bar and it's cluttering up the UI, being pointless. If I cannot set it to Bing, is there any way to remove it?

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance :)

[Eice]

I've written a brief review, if anyone's interested: http://textpad.spaces.live.com/blog/cns...D!493.entry

[Udedenkz]

Is there addon support for Windows? Safari + Adblock would be worth checking out.

[sn00pie]

I was so in love with the tabs on the top, and they changed it back to this :(

[+John. Subscriber¹]

I was so in love with the tabs on the top, and they changed it back to this :(

I would assume there'll be a plugin out soon, if not already.

[Udedenkz]

Downloaded. Obviously at least twice as fast as Firefox. Now, there are no advanced settings are there now for Safari?

EDIT: Found It.