Cosmin Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 I plan for a new Gigabyte/Sapphire(which?) 4770 but as I've seen other models(nvidia 9600GT..) somehow slower have 1Gb or even more. Does performance depend on size or ? Thanks Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneKnee Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 512 is fine for the moment! :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591217920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hani Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 512 is fine for the moment! :) +1 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591217924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis W. Veteran Posted July 1, 2009 Veteran Share Posted July 1, 2009 Yeah, 512 MB is definitely enough. If you have more GPU RAM your games can get away with storing ridiculously large texture sizes... but at the moment 512 MB is far from inadequate. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591217932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAID 0 Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Memory has a lot to do with video card performance, but it's not the biggest factor. Memory bandwidth/type and the amount of processors in the card are more important than just looking at the amount of memory. My 260 has less RAM than some 9600s, but the 260 is WAY more powerful. Of the two cards, I'd get the Sapphire. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591217934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted July 1, 2009 Veteran Share Posted July 1, 2009 Performance largely depends on the GPU and type of RAM used. A lot of people assume that more RAM makes the video card faster. In the real world, it doesn't. To answer your question: 512MB is adequate for today's demanding games. You'll only require more as you increase the resolution. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591217936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin Posted July 1, 2009 Author Share Posted July 1, 2009 my monitor native res is 1680x1050 .. I hope 4770 can keep GTA4 or so playable.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591217956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacon Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 my monitor native res is 1680x1050 .. I hope 4770 can keep GTA4 or so playable.. It should, don't worry. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591217978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted July 1, 2009 Veteran Share Posted July 1, 2009 my monitor native res is 1680x1050 .. I hope 4770 can keep GTA4 or so playable.. It'll be playable, but don't expect high framerates. I have an HD 4870 and I get ~35 FPS in the built-in benchmark at 1680x1050 (high settings). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591217996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoneyardBrew Member Posted July 1, 2009 Member Share Posted July 1, 2009 512MB should be fine for a while. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591218006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin Posted July 1, 2009 Author Share Posted July 1, 2009 512MB /128bit GDDR5 memory interface . Heard on this factor depends all .. Anaron - I don't play all on high settings but thanks for info :shifty: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591218030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan Erik Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Video RAM is insignificant compared to all the other numbers.. shader processor, stream processors, clock speed, memory speed, and the physical architecture of the GPU itself. The GTX 260 does an extremely awesome job at 1920x1080. For good gaming, try to aim for at least an nVidia 9800GT If you plan on playing GTA4, also make sure that your CPU won't bottleneck a good card.. use systemrequirementslab's website to make sure your machine is capable Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591218032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ci7 Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 my monitor native res is 1680x1050 .. I hope 4770 can keep GTA4 or so playable.. GTA4 eat my 2GB GFX for lunch Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591218564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoJD Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 Expect medium settings and low view distance at around 25-40fps.... Then again I have a 9600GSO 384MB, and it runs GTA 4 fine at medium settings at 1920x1080... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591218576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre S. Veteran Posted July 2, 2009 Veteran Share Posted July 2, 2009 Video cards have very complex architectures these days. The only reliable way to get a good idea of a card's performance is to check out benchmarks. For instance : http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardw...dr5-review.html The card looks like it's slightly behind the HD 4850 512MB, which itself is slightly behind the HD 4850 1GB. Note that right now you can usually find better deals for the HD 4850 than the 4770 due to better availability of the former. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591221494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin Posted July 2, 2009 Author Share Posted July 2, 2009 Note that right now you can usually find better deals for the HD 4850 than the 4770 due to better availability of the former. Realized that.. but I'll hurt my PSU with any 4850 :|, any news about 4770 availability/redesigned cooler ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591222266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre S. Veteran Posted July 2, 2009 Veteran Share Posted July 2, 2009 Realized that.. but I'll hurt my PSU with any 4850 :|, any news about 4770 availability/redesigned cooler ?The requirements are the same for the 4770 and 4850 : "450 Watt or greater power supply with one 75W 6-pin PCI Express? power connectors recommended. "http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/gra...quirements.aspx http://ati.amd.com/products/radeonhd4700/requirements.html Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591222302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Realized that.. but I'll hurt my PSU with any 4850 :|, any news about 4770 availability/redesigned cooler ? I run a 4850 on a 570 Watt PSU, so it shouldn't be a problem as long as your PSU can provide the correct amperage on the PCI-E rail. Also, 512m should be fine unless you game at really high resolution, graphics memory only impacts on how much texture information the card can hold, it has very little effect on rendering performance Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591222326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin Posted July 2, 2009 Author Share Posted July 2, 2009 (edited) Antec 350W SmartPower2.0 ATX12V v2.0 :ermm: For calculator seems enough :| Edited July 2, 2009 by Cosmin Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591222334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre S. Veteran Posted July 2, 2009 Veteran Share Posted July 2, 2009 Antec 350W SmartPower2.0 ATX12V v2.0 :ermm:Then I'm sorry but it's insufficient for either the HD 4770 or the HD 4850. You risk instability, random malfunctioning and, potentially, physical damage to your components.You'll have to go as low as the HD 4550 to fit your power supply. I suggest you look into upgrading it instead. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591222350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliot B. Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I run the latest games at 1680x1050 in maximum detail, and 512 MB isn't enough - especially when high quality textures etc. are used in games such as GTA4 and Crysis. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591222360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre S. Veteran Posted July 2, 2009 Veteran Share Posted July 2, 2009 The PSU calculator means nothing in terms of what rated wattage your PSU should have. The rated wattage should FAR exceed what the PSU calculator reports. "The total PSU Wattage this tool recommends will give a general idea of the range of continuously available power (not peak power) at which you should be looking. " I run the latest games at 1680x1050 in maximum detail, and 512 MB isn't enough - especially when high quality textures etc. are used in games such as GTA4 and Crysis.It's more complicated than that. For instance, the HD 4870 512MB usually dominates the HD 4850 1GB. In most benchmarks, the 512MB and 1GB versions of the same card are very close. The extra memory does make a difference, but it's usually not night and day.See http://www.guru3d.com/article/gigabyte-rad...5oc1gi-review/7 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591222376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliot B. Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 It's more complicated than that. For instance, the HD 4870 512MB usually dominates the HD 4850 1GB. In most benchmarks, the 512MB and 1GB versions of the card are very close. The extra memory does make a difference, but it's usually not night and day.See http://www.guru3d.com/article/gigabyte-rad...5oc1gi-review/7 It's better to have too much than too little, as it would impact other important aspects of the card's specifications. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591222378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin Posted July 2, 2009 Author Share Posted July 2, 2009 And what the recommended output (12V) for an 4850/4770 ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591222404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 (edited) I believe most top end cards require about 30 amps on the PCI-E rail, maybe you can get away with 22-25 for a mid range card Edited July 2, 2009 by Frank Fontaine Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/791814-512mb-vidcard-enough-for-these-days/#findComment-591222408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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