Fringe - Season 2

[macrosslover]

yeah it was too obvious a writers gift to ignore. Easily saw it coming a mile away once they set it up. It's also obvious that eventually our Olivia will be returning. Only questions I have to ponder are what are her orders & what was Bell talking about when he was talking to Peter outside the Opera house. There's something else that happened with Peter that they haven't revealed yet.

Also glad to see some of the damage the blight has done and the effects of the Fringe events on their universe. I can't believe that Walter solely was responsible for that. I bet they did stuff on their universe they haven't revealed yet that weakend it in the first place to allow Walter to even come through as easily as he did.

oh yeah one final question is how were they able to get back? I thought Olivia was suppose to "crack" the door open so that the door wedge powered by Bell would then allow them to go back over. Well I find a hard time believing the alternate had the powers of Olivia and if she does that's just a convient gift out of nowhere isn't it :rolleyes:

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Surely that can't be the end of her, can it?

Didn't say that was the end of her.

Her 'fate' is to be locked up until the next episode. She will get out, have to kill 'herself', and everything will be all better.

[Solth]

To me it was pretty obvious that it wasn?t *Olivia* after the grenade went off after when William Bell was unconscious

[qdave]

Absolutely fantastic finale!

Loved the first confrontation between Bell and Walter. Too bad Nimoy wont be appearing in fringe anymore :(

Also chick fight was cool :D

Not a big fan of the ending though, but i guess they had to make something for it to be interesting in the 3rd season.

[macrosslover]

Absolutely fantastic finale!

Loved the first confrontation between Bell and Walter. Too bad Nimoy wont be appearing in fringe anymore :(

Also chick fight was cool :D

Not a big fan of the ending though, but i guess they had to make something for it to be interesting in the 3rd season.

I personally don't think this is the last we've seen of Bell but that's just my opinion.

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I personally don't think this is the last we've seen of Bell but that's just my opinion.

Nimoy said he was retiring from acting.

I bet we see him at least once more, but who knows.

[Ayepecks]

To me it was pretty obvious that it wasn?t *Olivia* after the grenade went off after when William Bell was unconscious

Yes, but still awesome nonetheless :)

[kazgor]

question, how were they all able to get back. surely the alternate Oliva did not have the same power to open the door between universe, and the device Bell & Walter made was only to keep the door open alittle longer once Olivia open it. hmmm..

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question, how were they all able to get back. surely the alternate Oliva did not have the same power to open the door between universe, and the device Bell & Walter made was only to keep the door open alittle longer once Olivia open it. hmmm..

There are two possibilities:

1) Gigantic plot hole

2) William Bell was in on it, and opened the door himself.

[Ayepecks]

question, how were they all able to get back. surely the alternate Oliva did not have the same power to open the door between universe, and the device Bell & Walter made was only to keep the door open alittle longer once Olivia open it. hmmm..

That was my biggest question about the episode. But maybe there's some link between the dimensions.

[notuptome2004]

they got back because Bell has crossed over so many times back and fourth . also Walter already made the statement that Olivia could not do it now you just did not pay attention did you

[Mathachew Veteran]

they got back because Bell has crossed over so many times back and fourth . also Walter already made the statement that Olivia could not do it now you just did not pay attention did you

Bell having gone back and forth has nothing to do with how they got back. He mentioned that because the next time he did it would likely kill him, so he sacrificed his life by supplying the device with the energy it needed to take them back.

[Rappy Veteran]

just watched it, good episode (Y)

I myself want to read the Red Lantern

[medium_pimpin]

Very good finale. Just ****ed Peter and Olivia won't be together.

[Rappy Veteran]

Nimoy said he was retiring from acting.

I bet we see him at least once more, but who knows.

yeah that or they will do it on a screen like in the Brown Betty episode.

[Cupcakes]

question, how were they all able to get back. surely the alternate Oliva did not have the same power to open the door between universe, and the device Bell & Walter made was only to keep the door open alittle longer once Olivia open it. hmmm..

That was my biggest question about the episode. But maybe there's some link between the dimensions.

LOL Did you guys not watch the episode and/or pay attention to it?

To get over the first time, Oliva, the 3 other Cortaxaphan (sp?) needed to be together to do it.. Walter was in the middle which can be implied that he had to be there for them to bring him with.

To get back to their original world Walter and Bell worked on a device that found in Harvard Uni from the alt world and fixed it. Then they turned it on but didn't have enough power to which Bell used himself to give it the extra power needed. He stated that he was like a million different atom bombs so using himself would allow for their chance to get back.. Which implies that Bell was sacrificing himself for them. Did you not notice Bell putting his hands against the sort off bubble encasing Walter, Peter and Olivia?

Bell having gone back and forth has nothing to do with how they got back. He mentioned that because the next time he did it would likely kill him, so he sacrificed his life by supplying the device with the energy it needed to take them back.

WRONG. He had everything to do with them getting back. He had gone back and forth so many times that his atoms were ready to split again should he try to go again.

Here, I helps you:

Bell says that he will be the power source. He explains that he has crossed over so many times that his atoms are ready to split apart at the slightest provocation. Walter realizes the gravity of Bell's offer, and says, "Thank you, old friend." Bell finally confesses that he removed parts of Walter's brain because Walter asked him to. Walter was afraid of what he was becoming.

Suddenly, the Fringe team starts to raid the theater. Bell uses his own energy to power the doorstop, and in doing so, his body dissipates.

Source

[Mayhem]

LOL Did you guys not watch the episode and/or pay attention to it?

The first time Olivia, the 3 other guinea pigs w/ Cortexaphan (sp?) and Walter were together they were able to go into the alternate world. To get back to their original world Walter and Bell worked on a device that found in Harvard Uni from the alt world and fixed it. Then they turned it on but didn't have enough power to which Bell used himself to give it the extra power needed. He stated that he was like a million different atom bombs so using himself would allow for their chance to get back.. Which implies that Bell was sacrificing himself for them. Did you not notice Bell putting his hands against the sort off bubble encasing Walter, Peter and Olivia?

WRONG. He had everything to do with them getting back. He had gone back and forth so many times that his atoms were ready to split again should he try to go again.

Here, I helps you:

Source

go see it again, they clearly said that Olivia only have the power to open a scratch and that was needed that device plus Bell energy to keep it open <<<

the device was a support to maintain the hole open with the Bell energy, only Olivia could open the hole, so... ya a huge plot hole

[Rappy Veteran]

loved these covers :D

[Cupcakes]

go see it again, they clearly said that Olivia only have the power to open a scratch and that was needed that device plus Bell energy to keep it open <<<

the device was a support to maintain the hole open with the Bell energy, only Olivia could open the hole, so... ya a huge plot hole

Yawn.

Nina says that Olivia and the other Cortexiphan kids have the ability to cross over. A number of them working together could create enough energy for it to work.

Walter gets the device to turn on, but Olivia doesn't have enough power to keep the "doorstop" open. Bell says that he will be the power source.

Had Bell not had the atoms as they were, he wouldn't be able to power the device.. Thus why him having hopped back and forth had everything to do with it.

No plot hole.

[Rappy Veteran]

lol @ caption

[Razorwing]

loved these covers :D

Are they actual real comics? or fake? I don't know much about comics. I think I see Jonah Hex in one. :blink:

[Rappy Veteran]

Are they actual real comics? or fake? I don't know much about comics. I think I see Jonah Hex in one. :blink:

nah they were mockupsdone for the show :D

[Ayepecks]

Yawn.

Had Bell not had the atoms as they were, he wouldn't be able to power the device.. Thus why him having hopped back and forth had everything to do with it.

No plot hole.

Bell, Walter and Olivia hide out and discuss the issue of crossing back without the power of the other Cortexiphans. If Olivia can provide a crack to that door, then Bell is sure that Walter can create a "doorstop" to keep it open. Olivia interrupts Walter and Bell's bickering to say she's going to find Peter. Since all phone communication is monitored, they agree to meet back at the opera house in twelve hours. After Olivia leaves, Bell wistfully notes to Walter that "she may be our greatest achievement."

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Walter gets the device to turn on, but Olivia doesn't have enough power to keep the "doorstop" open. Bell says that he will be the power source. He explains that he has crossed over so many times that his atoms are ready to split apart at the slightest provocation. Walter realizes the gravity of Bell's offer, and says, "Thank you, old friend." Bell finally confesses that he removed parts of Walter's brain because Walter asked him to. Walter was afraid of what he was becoming.

Suddenly, the Fringe team starts to raid the theater. Bell uses his own energy to power the doorstop, and in doing so, his body explodes. Walter, Olivia and Peter find themselves standing in the calm of the opera house -- back on their Side. The invading Fringe agents have disappeared. The real Broyles welcomes them home.

The device was a "doorstop" to keep the "crack" open that Olivia would have to open herself. The device was merely meant to keep it open long enough for them to transfer through. Olivia was the one to open the crack, Bell was the one who would keep it open by powering the device.

So, yes, major plot hole.

[macrosslover]

Bell, Walter and Olivia hide out and discuss the issue of crossing back without the power of the other Cortexiphans. If Olivia can provide a crack to that door, then Bell is sure that Walter can create a "doorstop" to keep it open. Olivia interrupts Walter and Bell's bickering to say she's going to find Peter. Since all phone communication is monitored, they agree to meet back at the opera house in twelve hours. After Olivia leaves, Bell wistfully notes to Walter that "she may be our greatest achievement."

...

Walter gets the device to turn on, but Olivia doesn't have enough power to keep the "doorstop" open. Bell says that he will be the power source. He explains that he has crossed over so many times that his atoms are ready to split apart at the slightest provocation. Walter realizes the gravity of Bell's offer, and says, "Thank you, old friend." Bell finally confesses that he removed parts of Walter's brain because Walter asked him to. Walter was afraid of what he was becoming.

Suddenly, the Fringe team starts to raid the theater. Bell uses his own energy to power the doorstop, and in doing so, his body explodes. Walter, Olivia and Peter find themselves standing in the calm of the opera house -- back on their Side. The invading Fringe agents have disappeared. The real Broyles welcomes them home.

The device was a "doorstop" to keep the "crack" open that Olivia would have to open herself. The device was merely meant to keep it open long enough for them to transfer through. Olivia was the one to open the crack, Bell was the one who would keep it open by powering the device.

So, yes, major plot hole.

^^ what he said. As I and others have said previously, Olivia was suppose to open the door and the device from Harvard was meant to hold it open long enough for them to crossover. The device was powered by Bell to hold the crack open. Bell did not open the crack. The only 2 options they have are they either got so caught up in the gift of switching Olivias they forgot the real Olivia has to open the door or in the season 3 opener they'll makeup some junk about Altolivia being able to open door portals out of nowhere.

[Razorwing]

nah they were mockupsdone for the show :D

now that is just awesome.