Recommended Posts

It was a very satisfying finale IMO. I dont care we dont get answers about the light TBH. And desmond being on the island finally made sense. The way the losties inferred that jacob brought desmond to the island for a reason. And the way both (locke and jack) turned out to be right about turning the light off.

What I dont get is why jack didnt the 'worse than death' treatment when he turned the light back on. And those of you saying "why didnt he step out of the pool", he would have died anyway because of the wounds.

And I'm happy Hugo got to take care of the island in the end.

Agreed, but if Hurley was anything like Jacob and what Jack was suppose to be like, I am assuming Ben died LONG before Hurley? Unless, because the light was out, Jack couldn't pass the power onto Hurley, so Ben and Hurley went on to die natural deaths of old age?

Meh, more questions.....great season finale though, I am assuming Hurley never got the Jacob type of powers since the light was out at the time (which seemed to stop MiBs powers), but as Christian said, some died after Jack and they appeared there as well so its impossible to know whether or not Hurley got the powers Jacob had.

I'm pretty sure jack did in fact pass it on to Hurley, and if hurley was immortal (we dont know if being the guardian of the island automatically makes you immortal, but Im sure guarding the light gives you that sort of power), maybe he made ben immortal too, like jacob did with richard

So It ends ... dayum I had a few tears in my eyes!!!

Didnt get all the answers, bit of a shame, didnt entirely get it ... will have to rewatch it on sky1 now again in a bit

may I ask how you watched it LIVE before the sky1 broadcast?

What's the faraday stuff hanging?

I didn't mean left hanging so much as I meant what I now realize was just another a huge misdirection done by the writers which in a lot of people were led to believe that there was some bigger thing happening with Eloise/Whidmore, the electromagnetism, etc, etc. Ultimately they left us with a much better ending anyways.

The review posted above sums things up quite nicely. It seems plausible but I am not entirely sold on the Hugo made the sideways though. I'd rather believe that he was the protector for so long that by the time it was his turn to move on he did so like the rest and by then there were light sabers and galactic space ships. :p

Give it time, immediately after watching I was too, now I've given it some time to settle and reflect on it and actually, I can't think of a more fitting ending.

I can. One that doesn't waste time on pointless stuff and actually answers questions that they spent so much time making only to just ignore. It's like they just thought "Ah screw it, I have no idea how we're going to answer everything without messing it up, lets just ignore it all and try to cover it up with an 'emotional ending' and then call that good instead."

Not too say it was terribly bad, it was just a lazy way out I think. Though I guess there was just a whole problem with the entire series. Maybe a Heroes style "flash forward" at the begining of the series where we see the MiB destroying America would have been helped :laugh: (Though totally out of character for the show :p ) A sense of purpose. Every other season had some sort of clear goal - get in the hatch, get back on the island, etc. This one was more "walk around and hope Jacob actually tells us what the muffins we're meant to be doing".

I can. One that doesn't waste time on pointless stuff and actually answering questions that they spent so much time making only to just ignore. It's like they just thought "Ah screw it, I have no idea how we're going to answer everything without messing it up, lets just ignore it all and try to cover it up with an 'emotional ending' and then call that good instead."

Not too say it was terribly bad, it was just a lazy way out I think.

That's exactly how I feel =/

its like what AaronMT... When they are all dead and ready to move on, they somehow, come together. Till now dunno why.

But probably its like just a Jack moment, before he really dies. So, he live that moment, and just him and no one else. I mean, after the crash.

All to give and ending like this series was started. He open his eyes and he closes to the end... Im like, sad?. Damn it.

but we have to move on ;)

I loved the ending but the one idea that I had turned out 100% wrong. I was hoping the twist was that Jack had turned into the Smoke Monster after going to the light, and the flash alternatives was Desmond and every one else tricking him into going back to the island to trap him once again.

But it still rocked.

My short review:

Now that the Lost Series Finale has finally been showed, I feel very conflicted about this episode's TRUE Quality.

On one hand, Yes, it had Awesome actings and great fate/connection moments thruout the episode. They were really really emotioal I think any human being would be touched. And the EPIC showdown between Jack and Locke, but it still got dumbed down - You see, Monster was changed into a normal human who can bleed to be killed by Jack. We didn't get to see FLocke change into the smoke monster, etc. This happened 30-40 minutes at least the show was over. So in this regard, I definitely feel the fight was anti-clamatic.

Another major issue I had, was the end with Jack dying. I am one of Jack's fans and believed he was the one. Yeah Hurley is cool, but I believed Jack was THE protector.

:(

So, I will think of other things to add. I am not sure I like the pugatory angle with the side-flash. Have to think about it, whether it's a good thing.

So, ultimately, I probably give it a solid 8/10

If you are someone 1) Didn't look for all the answers 2) Not really care Jack died 3) Had no problem with pugatory idea 4) Happy with the showdown/fight I think you might gave it a 10/10, but for me, it's not perfect or that good .

Friend linked these paragraphs to me that helped sum up the somewhat hard to follow ending. Complete spoilers.

Everything that happened on the island, happened. It was all real. The flash sideways timeline we had been shown was a metaphor for purgatory. As Christian explained in the church, everyone dies eventually. There was no set time frame in the flash sideways, because time was irrelevant. This was simply a point when everyone of them was dead. Some most likely went on to live fulfilling lives (Hurley and Ben commenting that "you were a good number 2" "you were a great number 1", etc. hinted that they had probably continued living on the island for some time).

Before they could move on, they had to let go. It was coming together, finding all the people who were most important to each of them when they were alive, that triggered the realization in all of them that they were now dead. Then they had to finally let go. To stop holding onto grudges, guilt, hate and all of their many many issues when they were alive. This is why Jack was the last to realize it. Like Lost often reminded us, Jack has a hard time letting go. The main story ends with Vincent lying down and dying next to Jack, then Jack dying in the same manner he had woken up on the island. He died happy, seeing the plane holding his friends fly safely off the island.

  • Like 2

Im pretty dissappointed that ive wasted 6 years watching this rubbish.

I still believe they introduced so much stuff when things were up in the air in s2 and s3 not knowing how long the show was going to run for it was only till before s4 that they got an end date (i think) and thats when it started getting good again because they could start telling the end of the story but it was too convoluted to try and unravel everything.

What annoys me is that most of what happened on the island was irrelevant, the only thing that mattered was jacob and the smoke monster which means, Dharma and its experiments, the others, Ajira Airways, everything that happened once they got off the island, walt, vincent, all irrelevent, what a waste.

Im pretty dissappointed that ive wasted 6 years watching this rubbish.

I still believe they introduced so much stuff when things were up in the air in s2 and s3 not knowing how long the show was going to run for it was only till before s4 that they got an end date (i think) and thats when it started getting good again because they could start telling the end of the story but it was too convoluted to try and unravel everything.

What annoys me is that most of what happened on the island was irrelevant, the only thing that mattered was jacob and the smoke monster which means, Dharma and its experiments, the others, Ajira Airways, everything that happened once they got off the island, walt, vincent, all irrelevent, what a waste.

Exactly.

This show was so stupid it was unbelievable.. I I watched first 3 seasons and it was ok..and then it started going to hell and they just started writing crap to keep the show going.

And the ending.. well I was dead on the ending after Season 1.. there was no shocker at all... all was expected..

And I agree with someone else.. they haven't explained crap.. I'm sick and tired of these Sopranos, Lost and other shows that end like this crap.. all trying to be "artistic" and they don't wrap up anything. This is freakin' TV.. end it and explain that stuff like you should you lazy bums. If you introduced bunch of garbage in the story at least give the viewers the courtesy to explain it.

You can see that actors were sick and tired of the show too when I watched interviews.

- every single solitary event from S1-S6 happened, with the exception of the S6 flashsideways

- Jack died in the jungle, Kate/Sawyer/Miles/Frank/Richard/Claire flew away, Ben and Hurley stayed on the island

- Kate and Co. went home, led their lives, grew old, died

- Hurley and Ben eventually died

- Once they all died, they arrived in the flashsideways, which is your purgatory

- They all needed to find eachother and be together again before they could move on

- They did at the end

I refuse to believe that Vincent died at the end. I'm sure he's slurped up some god-juice at some point and is now the real protector of the island. Hurley is just for show.

My theory toward the end was that "sideways" was a construct built by Hurley, to give everyone a happy-ever-after. He was powerful, and rather than using those powers like Jacob did, he followed Ben's advice and ran things differently. I was actively avoiding coming to the "purgatory" theory because it was debunked around season 1. I was a little disappointed it turned out to be it, though.

Overall I thought it was a fine ending. Certainly better than Sopranos.

WTF they explained 90 percent of that stuff in the final season are you dumb?

Rage. Rage. Rage. Rage.

Why did they bother with season 6? :s

What was the light, What was it doing, What was the plug, Who was jacob, how jacob did bring the 815 knowing it's desmond that didn't pushed the button, how did jacob know what he knows, How could jacob leave the island, what was smokey, What happened to hurley, What happened to ben, what happened to Frank, richard, miles, sawyer and kate. What happened to dharma, Why was faradays stuff dismissed? Why was the temple important, What was the statue, Who built the statue, Who built the tunnels, What are the hieroglyphs, What was the water in the temple for, How was ben bought back to life, Who was henry gale, If kate, claire and sawyer didn't die... and went away on the plane... Why were they in purgatory, What has the light got to do with electro-magnetism, Why does the electro-magnetism (source of the light) send you to the river side. When the donkey wheel light/electro-magnetism sends you to the middle of a desert, Why is there "Pockets" of electro-magnetism?

I refuse to believe that Vincent died at the end. I'm sure he's slurped up some god-juice at some point and is now the real protector of the island. Hurley is just for show.

Im not so sure he did, one of the main themes of the show is live together or die alone, i dont think it would have been right for Jack to die alone on the island so vincent came and sat with him till he did.

At first, I was somewhat disappointed with the series finale. I was hoping they would answer more questions instead of dragging things on unnecessarily. Now, I realize that it wasn't that bad.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • Go for a Echo Dot or Pop instead. These Echo shows just advertise to you.
    • NetSpeedTray 1.3.3 by Razvan Serea NetSpeedTray is a lightweight, open-source Windows network monitor that shows live upload and download speeds directly on the Taskbar. Designed for efficiency, it quietly sits in the system tray, conserving CPU and battery with dynamic updates. It blends seamlessly with Windows 10/11, adapts to light/dark themes, and auto-positions to avoid overlaps. Features include accurate interface detection, customizable display, optional mini-graph, color coding, granular font and unit control, detailed per-interface history graphs, safe data management, and easy CSV export—bringing the network monitoring Windows forgot. NetSpeedTray key features: Lightweight & Efficient Runs quietly in your system tray without consuming resources. Features a "Dynamic Update Rate" that lowers refresh frequency when the network is idle to save CPU and battery life. Native Look & Feel Blends seamlessly with Windows 10/11 UI. Smart detection for light and dark taskbar themes ensures text is always visible. Intelligent & Adaptive Positioning Automatically finds empty space next to your system tray and shifts to make room for new icons, preventing overlaps. Seamless OS Integration Behaves like a native Windows component. Hides instantly with auto-hiding taskbar Hides when a fullscreen app is active Smart Network Monitoring Accurate by Default: Auto mode identifies your main internet connection and ignores noise from VPNs or virtual adapters. Easy Interface Selection: Switch effortlessly between Auto, All, or Selected network interfaces via intuitive radio buttons. Total Visual Customization Free Move Mode: Unlock and place the widget anywhere on your screen. Optional Mini-Graph: Real-time graph of recent network activity with adjustable opacity. Color Coding: Customize colors and speed thresholds to quickly see network status. Granular Display Control Text & Font: Adjust font family, size, weight, and alignment. Units: Automatic (B/s, KB/s, MB/s) or fixed Mbps display. Precision: Set decimal places and always show them for uniform appearance. Detailed & Intelligent History Graph Smart Scale: Logarithmic scale shows low-level traffic and large spikes clearly. Per-Interface Filtering: View speed history for specific adapters (Wi-Fi, Ethernet, VPN). Safe & Efficient Data Management: Adjustable retention, automatic cleanup, optimized database. Easy Data Export: Export raw data to .csv or save high-quality graphs for reports. NetSpeedTray v1.3.3: The Updater Fix A stabilization release that repairs a critical regression in v1.3.2: the app shipped without OpenSSL, which silently broke every HTTPS request — including the built-in update checker (the "Could not check for updates" error many of you hit). This release restores it, hardens the build so it can't happen again, and fixes a startup crash plus four other reported bugs. Changes: Fixed update checking — Resolved a critical issue that prevented the app from checking for updates ("Could not check for updates"). Fixed startup crash with Auto-Cycling — The app no longer crashes on launch after enabling Cycle display mode. Fixed incorrect network speeds on 10GbE adapters — Multi-gigabit network cards now display speeds correctly instead of being stuck at 0. Improved color coding — Default color is shown when idle, and color/threshold changes now apply immediately without restarting. Fullscreen visibility fix — The widget now correctly stays visible over fullscreen apps when Keep Visible is enabled. Improved AMD Ryzen temperature detection — More reliable CPU temperature monitoring for Ryzen processors. Cleaner upgrades — Installer now removes outdated application files during upgrades, preventing DLL/version conflicts while preserving user settings. Improved stability — Fixed potential DLL loading issues by excluding critical OpenSSL and NumPy components from UPX compression. Better settings window — Scrollbars removed and layout improved for a cleaner experience. Localization improvements — Updated translations and completed missing UI text across all supported languages. More reliable releases — Added regression tests covering recent critical fixes, bringing the test suite to 196 passing tests. [full release notes] Download: NetSpeedTray 1.3.3 | 87.9 MB (Open Source) Download: NetSpeedTray Portable | 101.0 MB View: NetSpeedTray Home Page | Screenshot Get alerted to all of our Software updates on Twitter at @NeowinSoftware
    • Why Delta Chat is the best decentralized messenger you have probably never tried by Paul Hill There is no shortage of messaging apps out there; we have WhatsApp, Messenger, and Telegram, just to name a few. While Meta has taken steps to incorporate encryption into Messenger and WhatsApp, they still leave a lot to be desired. If you are in the market for a messaging app that promotes security, privacy, and optional anonymity, you'll want to read what I have to say about Delta Chat. For those not familiar with Delta Chat, rather than relying on centralized servers as you do with Facebook Messenger, it relies on email. Essentially, it is a chat interface that feels like a messaging app, but secretly in the background, it is firing off emails. In the past, you used to have to sign in with your email account. When you sent messages to people, it would just be sending encrypted messages to their inbox, which their Delta Chat client would decrypt. When I first learned about Delta Chat, it required users to sign in with an email account, but I was pleasantly surprised upon trying it in 2026 that this is no longer a requirement, or the preferred method was to use the app. Recently, I’ve tried UAD-ng on my old Nokia 3.4 to disable most of the Google apps because the bootloader is locked, and this is the next best option. While finding replacement apps in F-Droid, I came across Delta Chat again, and it has undergone quite a big change since I last used it, with its new chatmail relays, which no longer require you to sign in to your own email account, providing anonymity, and they offer greater security. Android and Desktop Delta Chat apps. Not only does it run on my de-googled phone, but it also works on desktop computers and iOS, making it truly ubiquitous. For me, Delta Chat is a wonderful alternative messenger because it gives you more control. It supports switching between different profiles, which you can set up super quickly; you don’t register a username, you don’t register a password. The only thing you do have is a random string email address on a chatmail relay (which you don’t have to memorize). To maintain access to your profile, you just need to add a second device to your account via QR code or make a backup of your account, which you can restore later. Fail to do these, your account is gone - as it should be if you don’t want to leave accounts that could get hacked later on. My decision to block Google stuff on my Nokia was done for practical reasons; the device sucked when it launched, and it sucks even more now. The nice thing about F-Droid and the apps within is that they’re usually lightweight, free of bloat, and work well on that device. What was inconvenient for me was that it was hard to send messages from that device, say if I wanted to copy a code over to my main phone or send family members a link from that device. That’s when I decided to look at the available chat apps and saw Delta Chat. Another nice thing about Delta Chat is its notifications. Some messaging apps rely on Google’s ecosystem for notification transport on Android; however, with Delta Chat, it can use Google’s solutions if you have Play Services or MicroG installed. Otherwise, it is able to keep a background connection to the chatmail relay server so that you can get notified when you receive a message. As free software, the code of Delta Chat is open for all who want to take it and build upon it. In the future, if the developers of Delta Chat make a catastrophically bad decision and take the app in an undesirable direction, users can take the code and fork the project. This contrasts with closed-source apps from corporations that can take their products in any direction they like. By relying on free software instead of closed-source programs, you actually control your computing. I’ve spoken at length about how running this type of software is like owning your own home rather than renting it. The same applies here; if you use Delta Chat, you don’t need to worry about it going away in the future. Whether it is Telegram, WhatsApp, or Messenger, you are required to register a username and password to use these services. A major flaw in this design is that anyone can try various passwords and potentially break into your account with your complete chat history intact. Sure, there is encryption in Messenger, where you need a second PIN and two-factor authentication in Telegram, but breaches happen all the time. Unlike before, when you used to sign in to your email account to send and receive messages, the primary way to do it now is to create an account on a chatmail relay. The resulting email address is a random string followed by the name of the relay you pick. This means you can start and begin adding contacts Without a username and password, you either need to ensure you have a backup or at least one device running your Delta Chat profile. The primary way to log in on another device is to go to the settings and add a second device. Then, you’ll just scan a QR code with your new device, and it’ll log in to your account and sync all your chat history and contacts. To end users, Delta Chat just looks like any instant messenger; however, it is really sending your messages as encrypted emails to your contact. This is pretty cool from a censorship perspective, as it makes the service more difficult to block. Previously, the main way to use the app was by logging in with email, but nowadays, it’s recommended that you use chatmail relays. Chatmail relays temporarily hold messages in case your device is offline. They are cheap, simple servers that don’t store data as group states. Other information, like your name and avatar, only exists on your device and the devices of those you share your contact information with. The relays are also decentralized and operated by various groups and individuals. It is even possible to set up your own chatmail relay, but most people will want to use one hosted elsewhere. To keep your messages secure, Delta Chat uses a secure subset of the OpenPGP standard that gives you automatic end-to-end encryption. It also uses Secure-Join to exchange encryption setup information through QR-code scanning or invite links. Autocrypt is also used to automatically establish end-to-end encryption between contacts and all members of group chat, but sometime this year Autocrypt v2 will be rolled out, bringing post-quantum resistant encryption and forward secrecy. The Delta Chat FAQ is an interesting read that explains many more details about the app. Credit: Pexels Delta Chat is unique among messaging apps because it is built on email, a technology that’s decades old and isn’t going anywhere soon. What’s more is that email is not centralized either, so it’s far more difficult for any authoritarian regime to disrupt the Delta Chat app. I haven’t spoken too much about features yet, so I will do that now. Delta Chat allows you to do one-on-one chats, group chats, and create channels. It also supports file sharing and making audio and video calls when chatting one-to-one, but it’s not available for group chats right now. At the time of writing, the calling functionality is disabled and can be enabled in Settings > Advanced > Debug Calls. I have used the video calling feature, and the quality is excellent. It works over WebRTC, another open standard. The app also lets you send voice notes, enables disappearing messages, and has its own app ecosystem. I did try playing chess one time there, but it was a bit spotty; though, we did manage to complete the game with a victory for me. To add people to Delta Chat, you can either give them your Delta Chat link or your QR code to scan. These are the only ways to add users, so you won't have any spam bots bothering you. If the people you want to chat with don't have the app yet, just send them your link, and it will take them to a webpage where they can install the app and then add you. It's really quick for them to install it and get started, which is nice. Credit: Microsoft. The Majorana 2 quantum chip unveiled in 2026. I do not think quantum computers are too far out now, and I do hope that Delta Chat is able to push out Autocrypt v2 sooner, rather than later, so bad actors do not attempt to collect encrypted communications and then decrypt them in the future using quantum computers. By getting people’s messages post-quantum-safe now, users won’t have to worry when quantum computers start cracking legacy encryption. Overall, I would recommend this app to people who are already past WhatsApp and Messenger and have perhaps begun using apps like Telegram or Session. It shares a lot of characteristics with these apps and goes a lot further than Telegram in terms of security. By being based on email, it is also resistant to censorship, and the lack of a username and password makes you anonymous (if you want to be) and safe from brute force password cracking attempts. Let me know in the comments if you’ve tried Delta Chat recently. Do you think it's a good bulwark against governments that are tightening their grip on the internet?
  • Recent Achievements

    • One Year In
      bernmeister earned a badge
      One Year In
    • Week One Done
      Scoobystu earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Week One Done
      tuben earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • First Post
      OffsetAbs earned a badge
      First Post
    • Reacting Well
      OffsetAbs earned a badge
      Reacting Well
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      474
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      220
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      156
    4. 4
      Steven P.
      73
    5. 5
      FloatingFatMan
      71
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!