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Lets all put the pitchforks down people. Apple can't revolutionize every iPod line they have EVERY year. I think they didn't put a camera on the Touch to differ it from the iPhone. A camera could be edge to earn more customers in the smartphone market. These incremental updates are better than nothing I think. If you don't like it, wait until next year. I'm sure they'll change something to your liking. I'm actually excited about the new iPod Nano. My 1st gen iPhone is beginning to **** me off (and bore me at that) so I've been wanting to get a different phone for a while now (can't afford a 3GS on ATT). The new Nano would be nice.

These are words directly from Steve Jobs about the lack of camera in the iPod Touch:

Q. You put a camcorder on the iPod Nano. Why not on the iPod Touch?

A. Originally, we weren't exactly sure how to market the Touch. Was it an iPhone without the phone? Was it a pocket computer? What happened was, what customers told us was, they started to see it as a game machine. Because a lot of the games were free on the store. Customers started to tell us, "You don't know what you've got here - it's a great game machine, with the multitouch screen, the accelerometer, and so on."

We started to market it that way, and it just took off. And now what we really see is it's the lowest-cost way to the App Store, and that's the big draw. So what we were focused on is just reducing the price to $199. We don't need to add new stuff - we need to get the price down where everyone can afford it.

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Whether or not it's the only reason, I don't know.

Lets all put the pitchforks down people. Apple can't revolutionize every iPod line they have EVERY year. I think they didn't put a camera on the Touch to differ it from the iPhone. A camera could be edge to earn more customers in the smartphone market. These incremental updates are better than nothing I think. If you don't like it, wait until next year. I'm sure they'll change something to your liking. I'm actually excited about the new iPod Nano. My 1st gen iPhone is beginning to **** me off (and bore me at that) so I've been wanting to get a different phone for a while now (can't afford a 3GS on ATT). The new Nano would be nice.

Adding something like a cheapo cellphone camera to the Touch would hardly be "revolutionary."

The updated Touch is fine, but it's all so predictable, rather than making a big event, they could've just pushed them out to the Apple Store, with an announcement on the front page. Adding more memory and a speed bump is nothing special, at all.

Then going out, and adding video capability to the Nano seems bizarre, as is SJ's reasoning about not adding much of anything to the Touch, because customers tell Apple that they see it as a "games machine", which always kills me, because the only people that every say that or believe that, are people that don't play games, ie Nintendo or even Sony.

Adding something like a cheapo cellphone camera to the Touch would hardly be "revolutionary."

The updated Touch is fine, but it's all so predictable, rather than making a big event, they could've just pushed them out to the Apple Store, with an announcement on the front page. Adding more memory and a speed bump is nothing special, at all.

Then going out, and adding video capability to the Nano seems bizarre, as is SJ's reasoning about not adding much of anything to the Touch, because customers tell Apple that they see it as a "games machine", which always kills me, because the only people that every say that or believe that, are people that don't play games, ie Nintendo or even Sony.

That's exactly what I'm saying. It's not "revolutionary". And everyone expect them to do something every year.

And regarding the Apple's "gaming machine." Hardly a gaming machine. Unless they mean time killer machine.

Putting a camera on the iPod nano to me seems like a stupid idea. Most, if not all mobile phone users should already have cameras built into their phones capable of taking much better pictures than the nano's camera can take. Why bring along a second useless camera along is beyond me. lol

Adding the ability to buy ringtone is a good idea? Now you get to buy ringtones off the app store instead of making it for free using Garage Band.

Didn't they try to compare the iPod Touch to a Dell Netbook with them showing a picture of someone trying to stuff a Dell Netbook into their back pocket and ripping it or something or did I misunderstood it's real meaning?

The iPod Touch upgrade isn't anything new only a matter of time. Upgraded hardware to match the 3gs speed and storage upgrade Not that it's a bad thing, they didn't really have to have a conference to boost it. Im going to guess next year they will be upping the size again probably to 128GB if they follow their current trend. :p

Your not the only one.

You may not be the only one, but it doesn't mean you are right.

an camera in the nano is the most retarded **** i've heard

I don't see how you all can miss the point? So a little more than 200 million iPods sold, of those 100 million were iPod nanos. The nano clearly hits the price/feature spot for many people, so adding the camera should boost the clearly most popular iPod, while forcing anyone on the fence between the Touch and the iPhone another year to fall off and get an iPhone. Apple clearly would rather sell iPhones with their inherent profit model and won't cannabalize that product line until they absolutely have to.

I don't see how you all can miss the point? So a little more than 200 million iPods sold, of those 100 million were iPod nanos. The nano clearly hits the price/feature spot for many people, so adding the camera should boost the clearly most popular iPod, while forcing anyone on the fence between the Touch and the iPhone another year to fall off and get an iPhone. Apple clearly would rather sell iPhones with their inherent profit model and won't cannabalize that product line until they absolutely have to.

Oh, I think you're certainly spot on :) The thing is though... what will be the iPod touches competitor - the Zune HD - has an OLED screen, HD radio and many other niceties which the iPod touch lacks and will probably lack for the next year; for this reason, I can see the Zune HD doing extremely well and securing a place in a hell of a lot of peoples' pockets and possibly a nice, comfortable seat just under Apple's iPod touch in regards to market share.

Okay then, if adding a camera to the Touch would have been to close to a iPhone, why did Apple not include the FM radio in the Touch? Why only in the Nano?

If it was not for the fact that the iPod is now a "facto standard", this new iPod Touch would be in real competition with the Zune HD.

Leave it to Microsoft to kill it's own product with a US only launch of the Zune...

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