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NOD32 vs. MSE


NOD32 vs. MSE  

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  1. 1. In terms of effectiveness and speed, which anti-virus program is better?

    • NOD32
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    • Microsoft Security Essentials
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MSE, by far. NOD32 has been increasingly becoming bloatware with each new version. If you remember, the 2.5, was it, were the pinnacle of performance antivirus, and now, with version 4, it was, in my opinion, hit rock bottom - slows everything so much, it is often unbearable, and I have a pretty fast PC. MSE on the other hand, has better detection rates (no, not false positives :p) and runs heaps faster.

NOD32 bloatware?!?!?!? Are you going nuts?

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NOD32 bloatware?!?!?!? Are you going nuts?

I don't know if I'd go that far, but memory usage is going up with each new version. ekrn.exe is currently using 47,840K of RAM. Not much when you have 4 GB, but I remember when it would barely use 10 MB.

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Currently using MSE and Malwarebytes. Been like this for a week. So far so good :) Absolutely don't understand why people are shelling out money (that would be put to to really good use elsewhere) for security software when there are free and even better ones out there.

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I find that VERY hard to believe.

Why?

Malware Removal Test October 2009

Great link to back up your preference :) But you did forget to note one little thing:

Here you find the the Removal-Test results we've released this year.

This tests focuses only on the malware removal/cleaning capabilities, therefore all used samples were samples that the tested Anti-Virus products were able to detect. It has nothing to do with detection rates or protection capabilities. Of course, if an Anti-Virus is not able to detect the malware, it is also not able to remove it.

The main question was if the products are able to successfully remove malware from an already infected/compromised system. The test report is aimed to normal/typical home users and not Administrators or advanced users that may have the knowledge for advanced/manual malware removal/repair procedures. A further question was if the products are able to remove what they are able to detect.

It was a malware test, not a antivirus test. I agree that MSE blows NOD32 (2.7) out of the water in the malware division but not in the virus division.

I would have liked to see in this test you posted instead of NOD32, Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware. That would have been alot more normal and fair :)

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It was a malware test, not a antivirus test. I agree that MSE blows NOD32 (2.7) out of the water in the malware division but not in the virus division.

I would have liked to see in this test you posted instead of NOD32, Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware. That would have been alot more normal and fair :)

Well, AV-Comparatives, as the name suggests, tests antiviruses. This particular set only tests the antivirals against some malware.

We'll just have to wait for the virus tests some time before the end of Q4 '09. In the last round, MSE was still in beta, and hence not included

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Why?

Great link to back up your preference :) But you did forget to note one little thing:

It was a malware test, not a antivirus test. I agree that MSE blows NOD32 (2.7) out of the water in the malware division but not in the virus division.

I would have liked to see in this test you posted instead of NOD32, Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware. That would have been alot more normal and fair :)

You're right on this, i did forgot to note one little thing: I m a NOD user ;)

but this doesn't stop me to post tests like this

and btw unlike what the majority believes,these days the real/most common threat comes from malwares instead the old fashioned viruses

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I am going to go with MSE. I am disappointed in ESET. Not their NOD32 software, but in them as a company. I bought one of the NOD32 OEM copies from newegg. When you get the software you have to enable a subscription so you can get a username/password to obtain updates.

Apparently, their website looks at the IP address you are accessing their site from. Since I was in Kuwait, at the time, it would not allow me to register my serial number. I e-mailed their customer support with all my information and never heard anything from them.

I did wind up getting the software registered, but that was after I got someone that was in the states to go to their website with my serial number and obtain the login/password.

I will just stick with MSE from now on.

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I just love these replies saying things like "MSE is light" "cant tell difference between it and paid product"

When I clearly stated MSE ran bloated and was lacking various option configuribles, I guess its easy to turn a blind eye to make it easier to believe in something. Obviously I respect the problems I had wont affect everyone but these problems do exist evident by a bit of googling which highlights various cases of MSE 100% cpu usage when scanning certian programs/files.

For me the performance impact of a AV is crucial, I use nod32 for the simple fact I can turn of real time file scanning and just have the email and http scanning enabled.

For someone who cant/wont pay for an AV sure MSE is one of a few good options.

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Take a look at both in action and make your own mind up. This is only a small test on recent links but does highlight the fact that No AV will catch everything.

Since when have Viruses not been Malware?

Software is considered malware based on the perceived intent of the creator rather than any particular features. Malware includes computer viruses, worms, trojan horses, most rootkits, spyware, dishonest adware, crimeware and other malicious and unwanted software. In law, malware is sometimes known as a computer contaminant, for instance in the legal codes of several U. S. states, including California and West Virginia.
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I still think NOD32 is the king in being lightweight, adding the least registry entries, and boot-time. I'll have to find the pdf comparing performance.

This test is a year old but it shows NOD32 v3 blowing other out of the water

http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/stor...formance08a.pdf

They need a new test with current versions but why would NOD32 get worse with each version ;)

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After using MSE for several days, I am pretty sure it has a negative impact on my system's performance. Applications take longer to run, it's very noticeable to me. I switched to Avira and I have to say it doesn't affect my system's performance as much as MSE does.

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After using MSE for several days, I am pretty sure it has a negative impact on my system's performance. Applications take longer to run, it's very noticeable to me. I switched to Avira and I have to say it doesn't affect my system's performance as much as MSE does.

I noticed this too. I had many cpu spikes, I don't understand how MSE is "lightweight". I switched backed to Avira, and don't have any problems.

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i have had nothing but good from Avira

around the time AVG hit version 8.0 (slow as dirt) i began looking for a replacement. tried NOD32 and didn't like it one bit. tried Avast! and liked its lightweightedness and it seemed to work fine. had a bit of an issue with a nasty virus and the dude at work said i should try Avira.

running Avira on all my systems, ranging from P3-650 to A64x2-4200+, Win2000 to Win 7, i have had no issues with system speed or reliability. apply some restrictions to the notifier popup EXE and it is now good for my media center, too :)

it has caught everything as far as i can tell, for as long as i have had it. consistent across all my machines. very satisfied

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