client for ms networks ? do i need it ?

[yodat]

i have a cable modem connected via USB and it's properties 3 things checked (win xp pro):

- client for microsoft networks

- QoS Packet Scheduler

- Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)

i know that TCP/IP is mandatory but do i need the other two ?

for example i disabled QoS before from the group policy editor by giving "%0" as the value so i thought that it's needless to use QoS Packet Scheduler. or shoud i ?

also what does "client for microsoft networks" do ? if i uncheck it what do i get or lose ?

thanx 4 the answers. :alien:

[mAcOdIn Veteran]

I'd leave client for microsoft networks there.

But QOS you can safely uncheck. You can do the whole GPO edit but that whole tweak was nothing but BS for home users. I'll bet none of us even have QOS aware apps or routers, it's useless for us, and it didn't take 20% of our bandwidth it did nothing, because we didn't have anything using it. So go head and uncheck that one.

[Xahid]

Client for MS network is used for LAN, or if you connect with a domain.

[yodat]

is it a way to understand that the network between me & my isp has the QoS support ?

[mAcOdIn Veteran]

The ISP doesn't need to just your stuff.

I'd say foremost it's a bandwidth limiter. Basically whatever % you give the QOS service is how much bandwidth it'll reseverve for your QOS enabled apps when your connections maxxed out. So say your running a IIS server(which is QOS aware), and your hosting a BF1942 server as well on the same PC. That'll probably use almost all your upload speed so the QOS will kick in and make it to where IIS has whatever amount of bandwidth you set the QOS to. So basically whatever you don on your PC shouldn't affect your QOS aware apps. On top of that it supports other stuff two like if you had two internet connections a qos aware app should be able to use them both and maximize throughput. QOS isn't bad.

But I say you probably won't need it because most likely the only 3 programs you have that use it are windows messenger(don't think MSN messenger has it yet), netmeeting, and IIS server. These come with XP so they're on your CD, but chances are you don't want those program hoggin your bandwidth. Secondly it doesn't do anything at all to non QOS aware apps so you can't say reserve 75% of your bandwidth for counterstrike and get a kick a$$ ping.

I'll try and sumarize into something inteligable because I don't even get what I'm typing(been up too long).

QOS isn't made to offer you on your computer a quality connection, it's more so so that other users on the network can get a quality connection to you. Now on a single PC QOS isn't doing much of anything. But put that QOS service on a network with QOS apps, and then it works great because all your critical applications have a guaranteed amount of bandwidth.

[Steven]

Client For Microsoft Networks is only need if you are networking Microsoft Operating Systems.

If you're just using the internet then all you need is the TCP/IP protocall installed, everything else you may remove.

[yodat]

yep i use just the net as a network connection and i am not connected to a lan or anything like that.

is there any advantages to turn Client For Microsoft Networks OFF, i mean in terms of security or anyhthing like that (less memory usage :laugh: ,etc.)

[Steven]

  yodat said:

yep i use just the net as a network connection and i am not connected to a lan or anything like that.

is there any advantages to turn Client For Microsoft Networks OFF, i mean in terms of security or anyhthing like that (less memory usage  :laugh:  ,etc.)

Yes, lower surface area for attack, from a security standpoint.

You'll close listening ports that "Client for Microsoft Network" Opens to listen for network activity.

Also go to the advanced section of your tcp/ip and select "DISABLE NETBIOS over TCP/IP" this will also increase your protection.

[yodat]

oo yeah thanx 4 the tip.

a few days ago i turned off the anonymous login to NetBIOS in the registry also disabled NetBIOS helper service but i forgot the setting you mentioned.

turning off NETBIOS has any side effects ?

ps: i am using sygate personal firewall

Edited June 5, 2003 by yodat