netstarman Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 My thoughts on this is parents should know what there kids are buying , they should take control, no type of game should be abolished. But there should be a certain type responsiblity of the parents. Let the kids then enjoy the game since the parents educated the rugrats . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanD Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 im yes/no.. it depends to me.. i think that the parents should take responsibility... what a concept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 For the most part, yes. A few parents may be miffed at it, but I think most kids can handle what's in video games. There isn't anything that's not on TV or anything like that, it's all stuff you can find anywhere. Parents just need to regulate what their kids buy. If the kids are old enough to buy it on their own then they should be mature enough to know what they can handle. Most kids aren't going to go get an FPS and then start shooting people. If they are then they've had problems since before the videogame. If anything, it's a way to release stress in a good way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Dragon Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 I'll admit that, yes, there are some kids under the age of 18 that aren't quite at a level of maturity where they should be exposed to the kind of stuff in games like this, but the problem with the very first argument made in this thread is that most kids that would want to play these kinds of games realize that it's not real. And those who shouldn't be playing these games are probably limited by their parents anyways. I guess it all really depends on the level of maturity. That person who killed some guy(s) over a game of CS... Not mature! But if they're mature enough to realize it's just a game, then there's no reason that they should be limited from it. After all, if that's already their perception then how much about it can really change during the rest of the years up to 18? [Edit] By the way. I don't really like how the quesiton is phrased. It almost sounds like "Should we force violent games upon minors". I would re-phrase it to something like "Should we allow violent games to be sold to minors". Just a thought. :whistle: [/Edit] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syanide Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 Listen people. I grew up in a country where you can buy beer as soon as you're able to say 'i wanna beer'... I watched horror movies since I was 5, I played violent games since I know of myself, for a long period of time in my life (when I was kid) I would buy cigarettes to my mom every day (she would send me to the store), and so does almost every kid... I never got drunk, I dont smoke (wel...) and I never killed anybody because voices in the head told me to do so... But if I was crazy, I would have done it even if I never knew what violence was... It all comes don't to your own brain and how it works... And a HUGE role are our parents. It depends how they raise you. I had good parents who would let me do a lot of things, but I knew if I went too far I would get into trouble. And I almost never did. One thing I noticed that kids in the US dont really respect their parents... I've been away from my parents for 5 months and I practicly had to become independent and I saw what they do for us... Respect your parents people... And for the gaming, I think there's nothing wrong untill they make a game which will directly say: KILL THEM! DESTROY THEM... And parents who accuse games for violence are just trying ti find excuses for their kids' illness.... My 2 cents... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearMeAll Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 I vote no..I wouldn't want my kids playing violent video games until they're about 17 or 18 if I can have anything to do with it...I didn't start playing with violent games till I was about 18 I guess, but by then I just viewed 3d games as a bunch of polygons with action/reaction in concordance with what the programmers designed. But with kids it's a little different, they will stay PG in my household....except on my own pc...he he. just my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 And parents who accuse games for violence are just trying ti find excuses for their kids' illness.... wanted top expand on that a little, parents who accuse games for violence are just trying to find an excuse for their in ability to parent. i know a kid with ADD and he acts like normal child because he had parents who did their job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persianpsycho Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 all small children should be able to purchase mature/adult games, as well as pornography [/sarcasm] seriously though, if kids have parents like i do, who dont even bother looking at what games i buy then i guess we have a serious parentin problem on our hands (for kids who arent mature enough to understand that its not real life) But theres a lot of screwed up families, so lets just ban games altogether just like in greece or whatever to stop violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diata Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 so long as its not rated M, minors should be able to have whatever they want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flae_qui Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 i say it is up to the parents, why should other people have the right to tell you how to raise you kids? is that not our right here in the USA freedom of expression? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flae_qui Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 well well looks like a BIG vote for the good guys... kids enjoy what ever you want http://news.com.com/2100-1043_3-1012882.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywalker Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 I voted no, but must say it depends: I don't believe that games like Doom, Quake or Unreal are that dangerous to younger children, because in these games violence happens on a rather abstract level. Much more danger I can see for example in games like GTA3 where you are able to walk the streets being violent to other people, shoot or kill them - "just for fun". Since the scenario in GTA3 resembles real life it might be possible that the violence seen on the computer monitor IS finally be?ng transferred to real life. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mAcOdIn Veteran Posted June 5, 2003 Veteran Share Posted June 5, 2003 I agree with you guys on that it should be the parents responsibility and not the governments or a stores, but I still have to say no. First as I said before the parent can still go buy them the game. All this tries to stop is some 8 yr old with an awesome allowance from thier rich parents going into a store and bicking up crap like BMX:XXX. Maybe the age should be changed to 17 for mature games like movies just to keep it easy and even but thier should be an age there. Way I see it this is a token law. It doesn't really mean or do much, it's just there. In the US we have stupid people who sue everyone for everything. This law is needed because mature titles can still be made and it takes the heat off the publisher. Remember how many game companies got sued after Columbine? So this is good in my opinion. Because as a society we have to give and take for everything. Just as much as I like my violent games there's some wimp mother out there trying to ban them because she was too stupid to read the back of the box when she buys her kid a game. So this is a good middle ground where we can set up some standards and appease both sides somewhat. Also if some store emplyees would actually follow these rules this freaking violent game issue would end right there. No one sells porn to kids, no one sells tobacco to kids, but for some reason it's too much to ask a worker to look at a letter on a box before selling them to a kid? What gives? But yes, in a perfect world everything would be legal by nature, we'd all live in perfect nuclear families with big houses, picket fences and a family pet, making 75,000 a year, and all the parents would spend time with thier kids and do the whole parenting bit but that just aint gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxikk Veteran Posted June 5, 2003 Veteran Share Posted June 5, 2003 NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobbe Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 Wierd people vote "Yes"... :ninja: This is such an easy question... :cool: The answer is "No". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defiantly Posted June 5, 2003 Author Share Posted June 5, 2003 No one sells porn to kids, no one sells tobacco to kids, but for some reason it's too much to ask a worker to look at a letter on a box before selling them to a kid? What gives? While I agree with most of what you said, remember, tobacco used to be right where this gaming issue is today. (At least in the US) It took many new laws and ultimately, the onus was placed on the retail side, not the parents. (Admittedly sad). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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