Guest w2sjw Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Guys, For months, I was able to RDP my Server 2008 SP2 box from either my desktop or laptop in the house by it's name. Now, for about a month, the server will only resolve by it's IP. Has Microsoft pushed down any changes via WU lately that would have caused this behavior? Both my desktop & laptop are both W7 x64 RTM, and they can RDP each other by name just fine. Even when my desktop was still XP Pro SP3, that way of doing RDP still worked. I did a VM install of 2008 SP2 & after allowing the appropriate ports in the Windows Firewall, the VM exhibited the exact same behavior! Can anyone here shed some light on this? Thanks in advance for taking the minute or two to read this... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/833490-server-2008-rdp-issue/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn00pY Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 just put it in your hosts file. done. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/833490-server-2008-rdp-issue/#findComment-591700690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest w2sjw Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Yep, I know that will resolve the issue, but I'm a guy that chronically asks 'why' - I want to know why it stopped working 'all-of-a-sudden'... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/833490-server-2008-rdp-issue/#findComment-591700824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted October 15, 2009 MVC Share Posted October 15, 2009 Well understanding how it was resolving the name before is required to understand why its not resolving now. Were you just using netbios broadcast to resolve the host name? DNS? Wins? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/833490-server-2008-rdp-issue/#findComment-591707798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest w2sjw Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I'm pretty sure that it's by netbios. I say 'pretty' because I have minimal experience with any of the three things you mention in the reply. All the computers in the house get their IP from my router, and the DNS (I assume) is pass-through from my ISP (the server is not trying to resolve itself first, before going out to the ISP's DNS servers). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/833490-server-2008-rdp-issue/#findComment-591709472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted October 17, 2009 MVC Share Posted October 17, 2009 What network is your server set to? Private, Public? Do you have network discovery on? Is netbios even enabled? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/833490-server-2008-rdp-issue/#findComment-591716454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Garratt Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Can you ping the hostname of the server? I would check to see if your dns ip address are the same, normally routers acts as a local dns server for your network and then forwards any unknow requests to your isp. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/833490-server-2008-rdp-issue/#findComment-591717816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest w2sjw Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 What network is your server set to? Private, Public? Do you have network discovery on? Is netbios even enabled? I cannot ping the host name of my server. I assume that you mean ping the name I 'gave' the machine during setup? My server was just updated to 2008 R2 this morning. I have my network set to 'private' on the server. Network discovery is on, I've got to do a little web search to figure out how to check the netbios status... Update - I just noticed that every time I try and enable network discovery, it keeps reverting to 'off'... Update #2 - I noticed in my adapter settings on the server, NetBIOS over Tcpip is enabled, but my IPv4 DNS comes up as my router's default gateway IP... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/833490-server-2008-rdp-issue/#findComment-591718594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted October 18, 2009 MVC Share Posted October 18, 2009 Well if you can not ping the "name" of your server -- then yeah you have name resolution issue.. Network discovery needs to be on.. do you have your firewall on the server enabled or disabled? As to your dns -- yeah, that normally points to the users router.. dnsmasq is a common features of soho routers, ie they forward on the dns queries to your ISPs or whatever other dns you have setup in the router. So unless your running a AD, where all members and servers should point to your AD dns this is normal. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows...twork-discovery Off This state prevents your computer from seeing other network computers and devices and prevents people on other network computers from seeing your computer. Its like they write these articles for 3 graders ;) "from seeing other network computers and devices" What about just giving info on the ports and protocols being used!!! And what your turning off or blocking when set to off ;) But yeah if OFF, it unlikely your going to be able to broadcast for the name. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/833490-server-2008-rdp-issue/#findComment-591720222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest w2sjw Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 OK, this is really nuts - I open a command prompt to ping the server's name (NTWEB), and it attempts to resolve a host that reads back as 'NTWEB.W2SJW' (which is my domain name that I own), via an IP in Bogota, Colombia! :o What the hell is up with that? :blink: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/833490-server-2008-rdp-issue/#findComment-591720316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted October 19, 2009 MVC Share Posted October 19, 2009 Sounds like you have dns suffix search list to me. C:\>ipconfig /all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : quadcore-w7 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : local.lan Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : local.lan So if I ping one of my local servers name, it does dns first. C:\>ping p4-28g Pinging p4-28g.local.lan [192.168.1.4] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 192.168.1.4: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 See how it added the dns suffix. Sounds like you needs some basic understanding of how name resolution works on a windows machine ;) http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727005.aspx TCP/IP Fundamentals for Microsoft Windows Chapter 7 - Host Name Resolution But .W2SJW is not a valid TLD, so you left off some info??? Do you mean it searched for .W2SJW.com -- which seems to be a valid website. Why don't you post the output of ipconfig /all so we can see if your searching any suffix, or have your machine as a member of a domain, which will be an automatic suffix search, etc. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/833490-server-2008-rdp-issue/#findComment-591722724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest w2sjw Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 OK, as requested: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : NTWEB Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : W2SJW Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : W2SJW Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-D3-15-31-79 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::4505:5a32:80ca:46ed%11(Preferred) IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.3(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, October 17, 2009 15:09:55 Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:09:55 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234886099 DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-12-6B-BD-CB-00-13-D3-15-31-79 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled Tunnel adapter isatap.W2SJW: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : W2SJW Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:4137:9e50:451:207d:3f57:fffc(Prefe rred) Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::451:207d:3f57:fffc%13(Preferred) Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : :: NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/833490-server-2008-rdp-issue/#findComment-591723646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted October 19, 2009 MVC Share Posted October 19, 2009 Well there you go DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : W2SJW Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : W2SJW Why would you have that -- thats not a valid domain or even a tld, etc. is this machine a member of a domain called that? Why would you have that setting there? Deleted those settings, and then you should end up doing a netbios broadcast for the name, or setup local dns correctly for your local machine names, and domain, etc. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/833490-server-2008-rdp-issue/#findComment-591724566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest w2sjw Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Ooh yeah - having my router ID itself as the same name as my main PC is not good - I gotta change that right now! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/833490-server-2008-rdp-issue/#findComment-591725784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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