My two cents on the iPhone

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Mr. Gibs

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I like how all of you go on about how you love you iPhone and the features, which has nothing to do with my post.

I never said anything about how the features of the iphone were worse or better than other phones, or how the OS just works.

I simply said Apple doesn't offer you a choice with their OS. You either get the iPhone, or go with another phone/OS. And I just don't like that.

And it's the same with any other apple product.

Flamebait much, Razor?

How is this even flamebait? If you actually bothered reading my post you would notice it had nothing to do with how the iphone stacks up to other phones in terms of features or hardware. And more to do with it how I get a choice with any other electronic product manufacturer, though if for some reason I like Apple's software, I'm stuck with using what they want me to use. But if I like android, winmo or blackberry OS, I get a whole choice of phones and I can find one that better suits my needs.

Indeed. There are plenty of choices when it comes to phone. If you don't want a touchscreen keyboard, then there are other options. Part of the downfall of the other smartphone manufacturers IS there are too many choices. Instead of making the perfect HTC-Whatever, the company divides there efforts into little variations of the same old song.

There's a massive amount of choices for computer hardware too. You don't seem to find people complaining about it. Infact people seem to like having that choice, they can choose how much they want to spend, what brand to get, and what piece of hardware to get. And then choose what OS to put on it. You can only do that to a very limited extent with any apple product.

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one more point in favor of apple having only one device instead of launching a new phone every month like other companies is the support for the user, there is no worries if an application will fit in the device or that it will be discontinued and abandoned in 3 months.

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i never thought i wanted an iPhone either... until i actually used one for something productive. i.e. looking up train times rather than just 'playing'.

it has a bloody qwerty keyboard btw.. and it works well ;)

Edit: for god sake i can't seem to upload a screenshot, is the upload thing broken?

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The one problem with that range of choice, from my perspective, is the fact that the phones can have different screen resolutions; I've talked to more people than I can even name here who said they'll never even consider developing for WinMo/etc., simply because of that. Perhaps it's why the App Store got to where it is, despite the issues? because, despite popular belief, it's easy. Sure, you'll find absurd app rejections that make even the deepest of Apple fanboys scoff in disgust, but at the end of the day it's easy to get in to. If Apple brings in new phones with different features but the same resolution, yeah, that'll be fine; if other manufacturers build phones with a set resolution, yeah, that'll help 'em out a lot. The iPhone certainly is pretty handy in some ways, but there's a lot of room to improve (keep in mind that it's only been on the market, for what, three years? Pretty short lifetime in comparison to other vendors, I reckon).

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i never thought i wanted an iPhone either... until i actually used one for something productive. i.e. looking up train times rather than just 'playing'.

it has a bloody qwerty keyboard btw.. and it works well ;)

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Everything is accessible. All you need is the 3G connection or WiFi. If you jailbreak it, you can even get Google Voice. The iPhone is one of the best smartphones out there. The touchscreen qwerty keyboard is fine and works well. The battery life is even tolerable. I charge it every other day if I don't use it often (~4-5 hours of using Safari, making phone calls, tapping in note, watching a few videos and listening to 2 hours of music). There are so many neat features such as Google Maps and the Nike+ feature. I found it to be amazing when I could easily open up the Google Maps app and tap to tell me which way I'm facing in realtime while placed on a map.

I don't see what the fuss is all about the "lack of choice". If you don't like it, check out the Palm Pre, Blackberry Storm, HTC Touch Pro 2, or any other smartphone out there.

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Name one ****ing app you can download and install on the Zune.

ZuneCTF, Mahjong, Pong, MANY MANY apps you can install on 30s,80s,120s.

Funny thing is, it was a card game app(not blackjack, its a different card game) that my friend downloaded played for about 4 days next time he started it up zune crashed error code 5. COMPLETELY DEAD. So that answers both quesitons.

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I like how all of you go on about how you love you iPhone and the features, which has nothing to do with my post.

I never said anything about how the features of the iphone were worse or better than other phones, or how the OS just works.

I simply said Apple doesn't offer you a choice with their OS. You either get the iPhone, or go with another phone/OS. And I just don't like that.

And it's the same with any other apple product.

How is this even flamebait? If you actually bothered reading my post you would notice it had nothing to do with how the iphone stacks up to other phones in terms of features or hardware. And more to do with it how I get a choice with any other electronic product manufacturer, though if for some reason I like Apple's software, I'm stuck with using what they want me to use. But if I like android, winmo or blackberry OS, I get a whole choice of phones and I can find one that better suits my needs.

There's a massive amount of choices for computer hardware too. You don't seem to find people complaining about it. Infact people seem to like having that choice, they can choose how much they want to spend, what brand to get, and what piece of hardware to get. And then choose what OS to put on it. You can only do that to a very limited extent with any apple product.

I think everyone did address your issues. If you don't like how Apple makes the iPhone...don't get one. No one is making you.

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How is this even flamebait? If you actually bothered reading my post you would notice it had nothing to do with how the iphone stacks up to other phones in terms of features or hardware. And more to do with it how I get a choice with any other electronic product manufacturer, though if for some reason I like Apple's software, I'm stuck with using what they want me to use. But if I like android, winmo or blackberry OS, I get a whole choice of phones and I can find one that better suits my needs.

So do that. This is a long wall-of-text rant on a product you don't even own. Will you be writing a rant for every other phone that you don't own? The topic has been over-debated across the Internet. I call flamebait because it doesn't seem you are out to change anyones mind about the subject...just continue to argue about it.

I'm not really sure why. You not liking the iPhone is making anyone who actually has one like their iPhone less.

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I simply said Apple doesn't offer you a choice with their OS. You either get the iPhone, or go with another phone/OS. And I just don't like that.

I miss your point here...

Name another phone that allows you to easily swap out the OS?

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In Belgium the iPhone costs around ?600.

My Sony Ericsson G705 costed ?210 and has ALL the features and more the iPhone has except for the touchscreen.

Wasn't hard to decide for me.

+ you will ALWAYS be able to type faster on a real keyboard because of the tactile feedback you get. Combined with a good T9 dictionary this makes your typing blazing fast. Try that on the iPhone!

I miss your point here...

Name another phone that allows you to easily swap out the OS?

He means that with the iPhone and the iPhone OS, you are limited in options by Apple because they restrict so many things in their firmware.

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In Belgium the iPhone costs around ?600.

My Sony Ericsson G705 costed ?210 and has ALL the features and more the iPhone has except for the touchscreen.

Wasn't hard to decide for me.

+ you will ALWAYS be able to type faster on a real keyboard because of the tactile feedback you get. Combined with a good T9 dictionary this makes your typing blazing fast. Try that on the iPhone!

He means that with the iPhone and the iPhone OS, you are limited in options by Apple because they restrict so many things in their firmware.

Apart from Sony Ericssons quality control went crap after the k800i - and they are losing a ton of money..

I went through 6 K850is which is ridiculous, my provider was having a field day and just lemme cancel my contract so I could get the iphone 3G at the time.

Prefer the touchscreen interface in landscape mode and actually having the touchscreen than using buttons now..

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Mr. Gibs

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miss your point here...

Name another phone that allows you to easily swap out the OS?

I don't mean swap out the OS. I simply mean if I don't like the hardware on say a certain Android device, theres others to choose from. That's the same with winmo, blackberry, nokia etc.

With the iphone I'm stuck with only 1 piece of hardware. On a slightly different note, people are getting Android to run on winmo devices.

So do that. This is a long wall-of-text rant on a product you don't even own. Will you be writing a rant for every other phone that you don't own?

Here's the phones I own / have owned in the past 2-3 years: Nokia n73, iPhone 3g, at&t tilt, and now using HTC Imagio

And no I don't own any blackberry or android devices (apart from running android on my tilt), but I have used some of them.

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The reason I despise WinMo is that the apps aren't under quality control like in the Apple App Store so almost anyone can whip up an app for it. The apps made by Microsoft, HTC, and the guys at XDA-Dev are the only ones of any functionality and a nice looking GUI. I still wish Android could be ported to my Touch Diamond 1st gen so I could at least use that and be another one of the first Android users on AT&T. What only bothers me of the iPhone is being tied to AT&T's unstable network. My Touch Diamond even dropped a call on me when I'm in a 5-bar 3G area. I also get SMS at least 3 hours apart from when it was sent it some cases. So I'd rather carry 2 devices instead of one unless Apple gets their act together and opens the iPhone to GSM and CDMA.

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well with the iPhone/ipod touch havening over 1billion downloads on the app store that had currently i think close to 79,000 applications and growing i think that alone shows in some ways what people want . the iPhone is made for ease of use for any user and is a tied up echo system for a reason . and ya know so what if apple rejects an application they do so for a reason and i am sure ther is 100s of un published applications from users like us that never saw the light of day .

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Dc'1

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I miss your point here...

Name another phone that allows you to easily swap out the OS?

Well, actually on my Diamond (WinMo) all I have to do is run a program and it boots Android :)

Then again I have to actually be in WinMo, (so far) I can't just flash an Android ROM.

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Mr. Gibs

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I don't get it... your comparing a Web Os to a phone. Iphone is a phone. Android is OS, which can be put into any phones.

What I was trying to get across is apple should either allow other phone manufacturers to use the iphone OS, or make different form factors of the iphone.

I was comparing how with other phone OSes I get a choice of devices with different form factors, with the iphone I'm limited to only what apple sees fit.

But I guess maybe that was too hard to get across...

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