rikfrombelgium Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 so basically I'm having doubts between these 2 phones ( unless HTC does come with a 4.3 inch dragon android phone, than it would be between those 2, ... The X10 is a little better hardware ( better camera, more ram ) but IMO WM is the better OS ( connectivity, X10 comes with android 1.6 which also means 65k colors, ...) What do you guys think? The X10 does look good on paper but SE is always veeeery slow with updates so hopes for 2.0 are low IMO. WinMo is better in syncing ( outlook, winmedia player, ...) Android sucks at syncing media. The X10 also appears to suffer from the eye candy with all the animations ( but it's still an early build naturally ) I don't know, basically I don't see the appeal in the android OS over my trustworthy WinMo. Am I wrong with that? Does it have merits that I don't know about? The htc also seems less bulky with a slightly larger screen. On the other hand, the timescape and such apps on the SE look very handy, but setting things up sound like a bit of a hassle and honestly I like Sense UI better in the looks department. you see, pro's and con's are plenty, so if anybody would want to shed their light upon the matters, much obliged. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
emzino Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 If you had to, get the HD2. The X10 is full of gimmicks that'll just slow it down. Functionality over eye-candy I say Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591873180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Charming Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 HD2. Had a play with one today (guy on my course has one), and it lives up to its hype. Phenomenal piece of design and it's just incredible to use. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591873184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikfrombelgium Posted November 20, 2009 Author Share Posted November 20, 2009 finally, some response thx :) I've played with one since then and I have to agree, it's bloody fantastic. I don't get the appeal of android. I don't use any google services and the only ( limited imo ) advantageis open source. It doesn't do anything special, it's not fast, ... So yeah, somewhere next week I'll be getting my HD2 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591873198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikfrombelgium Posted November 21, 2009 Author Share Posted November 21, 2009 hehe, realised I have no patience, just bought one and loving it so far. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591876964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 X10, because it's running Android. WinMo is from stone age and needs a proper update. Who knows, maybe WinMo 7, though I have doubts it will be anything good really. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591876968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Sony have promised a timely 2.0 update and this phone appears to be their flagship phone, I think it will be getting alot of attention. If it ends up shipping after xmas I think you can expect an immediate 2.0 update. If the rumours come true and they launch pre-xmas you might be waiting for the 2.0 update. Look if youre happy with WinMo id just as soon get the HD2. For me though, im a very long time WinMo user and im ready to try Andriod and I think the X10 might be the best option for that. Ive tried Iphone it was alright has plenty of merits but not for me and went back to WinMo. WinMo has lots of positives but I like the andriods take on the OS and the rachel interface sony has developed just looks great so im ready to give it a go. As long as I can sync with outlook and get exchange (which to the best of my knowledge I can) then I see nothing this phone cant do that a WinMo one can. Edit: Bugger you I typed all that before I looked up and the read the last post so im standing by what I typed :p Like I said though, WinMo and HD2 have alot of positives I hope you enjoy your choice. I guess we wont know until the X10 is released but Sony are cranking out the builds for that phone and each build is seeing significant improvements in performance. Whilst clocked at the moment the snapdragon processors make more advances in the mobile platform that raw cpu. I think function, eye candy and timely multi-tasking is all possible on these hardware platforms. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591876984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastage Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Specs wise, the HTC HD2 has more RAM, 488MB RAM vs 256MB RAM on the X10. HTC HD2 is also future upgradeble to WinMo7 and comes with multitouch solution from HTC. Both phones are very good, the HD2 is availble now and the X10 is at least until February 2010. heh: I just noticed you already bought HD2, please post opinions on it, I might buy one myself. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591877000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowstick Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 If you had to, get the HD2. The X10 is full of gimmicks that'll just slow it down. Functionality over eye-candy I say All the standard Android tools are there and the Scape apps are fully optional. Also, an Android 2 update is scheduled. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591877198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambroos Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 X10 will be an amazing phone, no worries. Sony Ericsson's devices are always somewhat slow pre-release, but when they retail or after a few updates the performance is usually really top. And you don't have to use SE's own UI either, default Android is present aswell. And I've heard X10 will be released with Android 2. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591877244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikfrombelgium Posted November 21, 2009 Author Share Posted November 21, 2009 ok, somebody asked opinions. So far, I'm a pretty darn happy camper.My iPhone is a fridge compared to it ( UI or device ) It's fast, smooth, crisp and a joy to use. IMO the touch is certainly as good as the iPhone, in some apps even better. I only have one problem. I have windows 7 and Outlook 2010 b?ta and the syncing is going wrong, calendar hardly syncs, like only 2 appointments. It might be the beta that's killing it. I'll let you know I I find a solution. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591877330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastage Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 ok, somebody asked opinions. So far, I'm a pretty darn happy camper.My iPhone is a fridge compared to it ( UI or device ) It's fast, smooth, crisp and a joy to use. IMO the touch is certainly as good as the iPhone, in some apps even better.I only have one problem. I have windows 7 and Outlook 2010 b?ta and the syncing is going wrong, calendar hardly syncs, like only 2 appointments. It might be the beta that's killing it. I'll let you know I I find a solution. I believe you can download office 2010 beta for windows mobile now. Nokia PC suite doesn't work with outlook 2010 either (yet) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591877542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealexweb Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Mmm its a tough one, but the Sony Ericson is a clear winner, Android even only 1.6 is better than Windows Mobile 6.5 any day. And 2.0 will be brought to it soon. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591877548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikfrombelgium Posted November 21, 2009 Author Share Posted November 21, 2009 yeah, I've read that a lot, but when you ask why WinMo is so bad, nothing comes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591877566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambroos Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 WinMo isn't bad, it's outdated and unsupported compared to Android. Android has WAY more available apps and gets updated lots more! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591877744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omen1393 Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Is the HD2 capacitive or resistive? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591877748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikfrombelgium Posted November 21, 2009 Author Share Posted November 21, 2009 capacitive. and about the apps, seriously, On my iphone after a while you only use a few and those are a built in on the htc Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591877916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambroos Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 capacitive. and about the apps, seriously, On my iphone after a while you only use a few and those are a built in on the htc Now that is an argument. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591878178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gibs Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 WinMo isn't bad, it's outdated and unsupported compared to Android. Android has WAY more available apps and gets updated lots more! Android has way more available apps? You must be joking. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591878240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambroos Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Android has way more available apps? You must be joking. I'll rephrase it: Way more recent/modern available apps. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591878568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikfrombelgium Posted November 22, 2009 Author Share Posted November 22, 2009 you know, the apps are good. And having a large collection is always good ( and god knows marketplace is as barren as can be) But, like I said, My iPhone ( which I'm still keeping btw ) has 4 pages of apps, and it's all fun in the beginning but eventually you only use facebook, twitter, mail, sms, google, google maps... and those are on my HTC. Seriously, I've thought this through very good, I wanted something open, with better connectivity, which just syncs well with windows 7 and all programs, fast, smooth, better camera, flash, ... and the HD2 just won, hands down. I don't like apple any more, their tactics, their marketing, their pattents which seem to work with mac devices alone or which enforce advertisments on subsidized iPhone-users ... ow and btw, it's official, HD2 will get WM7 so my Zune Phone will happen. Hurraaaaa Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591880254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbandonedTrolley Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Yeah for all the 'apps' the iPhone has, what really does it have that other phones can't do. All a marketing gimmick really. I currently have the Touch HD and looking at the HD2 myself. Just wondering how much I would get for it though, recycling sites offer ?130ish so guessing maybe about ?170-180 on ebay? Leaves me looking for another ?300 for the HD2. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591889104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowstick Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 And I've heard X10 will be released with Android 2. 1.6 with post-release 2.0 update somewhen down the line. Unless SE gets wise and cranks out 2.0 firmware pre-release, which I doubt. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591897504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikfrombelgium Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 a friend of mine bought the SE P990 when it came out, with a huge update coming according to SE to make it even better. It never came. One of the main reasons I bought the HD2, SE isn't reliable. btw, HD2 officially going to be upgraded to WM7 when ik comes out. Zune Phone FTW Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591897848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Charming Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 It's not official at all. If for reason you think it is, please source. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/846120-htc-hd2-vs-se-xperia-x10/#findComment-591897872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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