R1pper Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 when is the sp1 gonna be release? i'm not all that satisfied with 7, the system is stable, but most of time she's not that responsive, id'e say, very low responsive. and no no viruses, malwares or any other junk.+very low on proccess as well. i know when xp first came out she was a disaster, sp2 made it all sweet. hope sp1 will do the same to win7. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 My guess would be around March. It would be consistent with previous releases. Can you tell us more about what you mean by "unresponsive?" What problems are you having? What are your system specs? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibetheone Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) Just out of curiosity what are your system specs? My windows 7 is very responsive and super fast but I'm also running a macbook intel 2.26 Intel core 2 duo w/4gb of ram and a 256mb nvidia video card.. if your running just the minimum system requirements I recommend turning off system restore, and disabling hibernation and not needed services to try and speed things up. Edited November 21, 2009 by ibetheone Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneKnee Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I find it's responsiveness very good to be honest. A lot of things can cause "very low responsive", Anti-Virus programs is one of them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_onion Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 If you're experiencing very poor responsiveness then there is an issue with your configuration, that sp1 probably wont fix. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealexweb Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) If you're experiencing very poor responsiveness then there is an issue with your configuration, that sp1 probably wont fix. As much praise as Windows 7 has got for its stability, your completly ruling out that's its 7's fault, it is quite possible its 7's fault. Edited November 21, 2009 by thealexweb Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I've found that almost always when people complain about *anything* being unresponsive, it's because the hard drive is thrashing - sometimes it's thrashing because the machine has too little RAM, sometimes it's thrashing because of background tools (search/backup/defrag/etc), and sometimes it's thrashing because of antivirus software. The HDD is still the performance bottleneck and because many programs are poorly written or block the main program thread while reading/writing data, the application will feel unresponsive. Unless your hardware is foobar or you're running way below the min reqs, it's not Windows 7, it's whatever software you're running on it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Spork) Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 when is the sp1 gonna be release?i'm not all that satisfied with 7, the system is stable, but most of time she's not that responsive, id'e say, very low responsive. and no no viruses, malwares or any other junk.+very low on proccess as well. i know when xp first came out she was a disaster, sp2 made it all sweet. hope sp1 will do the same to win7. i have to ROFL @ this post service pack ? why honestly im sure it's being worked on but atm it's not needed None responsive are you freaking kidding me 1 you got a bad install or 2 your pc just plain sucks im not saying win7 may not be at fault but im leaning to it's a hardware/user error Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger H. Veteran Posted November 21, 2009 Veteran Share Posted November 21, 2009 I'm running Windows 7 on a Thinkpad T61 with 2GB of RAM and it's running sweet. Will i be getting 4GB? You bet your butt i will but even with 2GB it runs just fine and dandy. I got this system with Vista Ultimate and i took out that HDD and installed Windows 7. I used Vista from beta days and loved it (even when everyone said it sucks). I used 7 in beta times but didn't get to keep up much with it and now that i'm on the RTM it's even sweeter than i remember! I don't care how fast Windows 95 (or 2000, XP) would run on this system, i'm far more productive with Windows 7! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 service pack ? why honestly im sure it's being worked on but atm it's not needed Your post is far more ignorant and silly than his. There are tons of bugs in Windows 7, so for you to sit there and say that "atm it's not needed" is just nonsense. Maybe we should just shut down Windows Update as well because, hey, the hotfixes that will make up the Service Pack aren't needed either. As for the topic, again, the OP does not provide enough information to give any sort of useful answer. Saying that it works perfectly on your system means nothing and is not useful. Not that there's much else one can say, but still. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Spork) Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 sorry but i have not had any bugs on 4 pc's that i have windows 7 installed on all 4 have ran great Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Jolt Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Windows 7 is one of the best operating systems Microsoft ever made/planned for. With how stable everybody says it is, you aren't going to announce it isn't because it doesn't run good on your setup. Windows 7 wasn't designed to run good on a bad graphics card/not enough RAM/not enough disk space/Pentium 3 CPU... So if you have a $2,000 computer from 6+ years ago, it is probably worth only 50 dollars now and is complete crap. If you have a $500 computer from 4+ years ago, it is probably worth 55 dollars now and is complete crap. If you have a $300 computer from 3+ years ago, it is probably worth 60 dollars now and is complete crap. I think you get it, and those netbooks aren't using the Celeron CPUs you might have in your old computers, there a type of Core 2 CPU that use the name Celeron. The Atom CPUs also are better than older CPUs. Plus, memory in netbooks are 1GB RAM, nothing less or there a rip-off. If you have 512MB RAM of memory, that's probably what's wrong. Well did SP2 fix all of Vista's issues? No, it didn't. It fixed many of those issues, but it didn't make it extremely faster or give it Windows 7's features and some new features. Windows 7 is great just how it is, and SP1 and SP2 won't be like some rewrite of Windows 7 like Windows XP SP2 was. Windows XP was complete utter **** until SP2, it was just Windows 2000 with blue kiddie curtains on the windows basically. Windows 7 is awesome, everybody loves it who uses it. So no, there won't be a rewrite service pack with Bill Gates' signature engraved on it for you. The only reason Microsoft is working hard on Windows 7 SP1 is because many businesses/schools/enterprises switch to the next OS when it reaches 6 months after release or the first service pack. Microsoft knows Windows 7 is great how it is, but they want to make this first service pack special for those businesses who wait for the service pack. Windows 7 SP1 will probably be a helping hand in the seamless experience of SharePoint 2010, Office 2010, and Windows Live Wave 4. All of that except Windows Live Wave 4 has something to do with Microsoft's 'The New Efficiency', so again, it has something to do with businesses getting ready for the first service pack. That stuff probably will be out when SP1 is out. Windows 7 SP1 might have some code under-the-hood for it to improve the experience for everybody. But it certainly isn't going to make it more responsive for a computer that is unresponsive right now on RTM, and it isn't going to bring you many new features to please you. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealexweb Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I've encountered several annoying bugs that no one has been able to find a cure to, for example the position of the preview pane is not locked, every time i open explorer its moved nearly all the way across the screen, its so annoying. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 The only reason Microsoft is working hard on Windows 7 SP1 is because many businesses/schools/enterprises switch to the next OS when it reaches 6 months after release or the first service pack. Microsoft knows Windows 7 is great how it is Microsoft is working on the Service Pack because they know there are lots of bugs to fix (and many hotfixes have already been released, some even for critical bugs that could compromise a system). Windows, as any software, even ships with massive amounts of known unresolved bugs that are considered too low priority to fix. The reality is that even though you personally haven't (or think you haven't) encountered a bug, that doesn't mean that someone else can't have. If serious bugs always showed up for everyone, then they would have been caught by internal testing and not even exist. Note that I'm not saying a bug is necessarily responsible for the OP's problems, but some of you seem to be so madly in love with Windows 7 that you can't even imagine the possibility of it having anything wrong with it. It's absurd. Accepting the reality that software of this complexity (Windows is arguably one of the most complex pieces of software in the world) has problems doesn't make one a blasphemer or troll, and it's okay to admit it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
azz0r_wugg Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 ASAP hopefully. Dumbass IT technician at work won't let me update my computer from XP until it hits SP1. So ****ing retarded. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1pper Posted November 21, 2009 Author Share Posted November 21, 2009 guys, i have nothing but great respect to you, neowin is perfect, the people here are(tmho) are the best on web, quality people, even the insulter's. ;o) here are my spec's: guys 7 is great, but soetimes its just not that great, when i play xvid file(MPC) the playing is not that smooth, when i browse, sometimes my music stutter's believe me that i know my way in tweaking, i'm still not that satisfied, maybe my setup is messedup, or maybe i'm right. do you guys think i'm to demending? with 7 and my spec's? i dont want to **** u off, but, with xp my system was top notch responsive, couldn't ask more. with respect. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwil1 Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 It will most likely come 1 year after RTM (ie July 2010) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsupersonic Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Dude, your CPU is 4 years old, that's probably the cause of it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olemus Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Your system is pretty old thats probably your biggest problem. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yxz Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Dude, your CPU is 4 years old, that's probably the cause of it. no Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeeperOfThePizza Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I'm running Windows 7 on a Thinkpad T61 with 2GB of RAM and it's running sweet. Will i be getting 4GB? You bet your butt i will but even with 2GB it runs just fine and dandy. I got this system with Vista Ultimate and i took out that HDD and installed Windows 7. I used Vista from beta days and loved it (even when everyone said it sucks). I used 7 in beta times but didn't get to keep up much with it and now that i'm on the RTM it's even sweeter than i remember!I don't care how fast Windows 95 (or 2000, XP) would run on this system, i'm far more productive with Windows 7! Same here, I got a Lenovo G530 (Intel Dual Core T3400 with 3GB of RAM) and it runs solid, also ran well on my 5 year old AMD64 3200+ System. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeeperOfThePizza Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Dude, your CPU is 4 years old, that's probably the cause of it. in 4 years your i7 will be nothing. anyways his system is fine for Windows 7.. a AMD64 processor, 2GB of RAM and 8800gts is more than enough.. people just wow me sometime. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_onion Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 There's nothing wrong with your specs. I run windows 7 on my netbook and it runs great, I can play divx video or play music and do other stuff at the same time. That's what makes me think your problem is to do with a driver or some other software you have installed, thus it probably won't be resolved by a service pack. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Spork) Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 but, with xp my system was top notch responsive, couldn't ask more. stop comparing windows 7 to windows xp lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zagor Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I have 4 Apple QT windows open playing 4 different 720p movies...And I am still quite comfortably able to work on a 60 MB powerpoint presentation. And it is only a 2.16 GHz core2 duo processor. So far I didn't not have any issues with windows 7 when it comes to responsiveness or stability. Do you have any anti-virus software installed? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/847958-well-win-7-is-very-solid-need-to-get-use-to-but/#findComment-591878404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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