gibsongirl Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 i updated my dell b110 to the latest ubuntu flavor. I have been a fan of for years. This particular version seems to run incredibly slowly. I have 2 gigs ram, a 1.66 ghz processor. Any suggestions? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted December 22, 2009 Member Share Posted December 22, 2009 Is it your graphic card? Do you need to enable the proprietary drivers? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592008814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syanide Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Some more info would have been helpful, have you upgraded or did a clean install, more system specs, what Growled said... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592009162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticWhisper Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Interesting, since I noticed a tremendous speed boost in 9.10 over 9.04. I second Symod's request - more info will help us get to the bottom of it. Some preliminary suggestions - fsck the boot volume and check to see what you have loading at startup. Also, see if there are any updated hardware drivers available - you may have been using one previously that went away and haven't installed the replacement yet. EDIT: Are these your specs? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592009206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted December 23, 2009 Veteran Share Posted December 23, 2009 There should not have been a huge performance change, really. Maybe ext4 would be a little faster on disk I/O. Maybe boot times would be improved. But GNOME is still GNOME, and the Linux kernel is still the same (with some other smaller improvements). I suspect that what Growled is on to might be the correct answer. Which video driver are you using? What video hardware do you have installed? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592010878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsongirl Posted January 4, 2010 Author Share Posted January 4, 2010 Thanks. I think I had asked this question before with one of the previous flavors of ubuntu. Thanks all again so much. I think I am going to run my system specs in my signature text from now on, that way I won't forget to post them. Dell dimension B110 2 GB Ram NVidia 6200 series card 160 Gb Hdd holds XP home 80 GB Hdd runs Koala Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592065740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted January 4, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted January 4, 2010 Thanks. I think I had asked this question before with one of the previous flavors of ubuntu. Thanks all again so much. I think I am going to run my system specs in my signature text from now on, that way I won't forget to post them.Dell dimension B110 2 GB Ram NVidia 6200 series card 160 Gb Hdd holds XP home 80 GB Hdd runs Koala What exactly is slow - graphics performance? OS and/or application start up? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592065742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted January 4, 2010 Veteran Share Posted January 4, 2010 If you think that the hard drive performance is a problem, run the following to get some hard numbers for us to look at: sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda If you think it is the graphics system, post the output of this command: glxinfo | grep render To look at RAM usage, do this one for us to look at: free Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592069064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShamRocker1 Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 All of your drivers loaded? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592069078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsongirl Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 CW, yes those are the basic specs for my computer with the addition of an Nvidia 6200 series card, 2 GB ram and an 80 gb hdd. I thought the os was slowing down computer performance. I have italicized the information from all three below. Thanks for your time all. If you think that the hard drive performance is a problem, run the following to get some hard numbers for us to look at:sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda /dev/sdb: Timing cached reads: 1426 MB in 2.00 seconds = 712.93 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 66 MB in 3.04 seconds = 21.71 MB/sec If you think it is the graphics system, post the output of this command: glxinfo | grep render direct rendering: Yes OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 6200/PCI/SSE2 GL_NVX_conditional_render, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_lod, To look at RAM usage, do this one for us to look at: free total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 2060120 687568 1372552 0 91832 320508 -/+ buffers/cache: 275228 1784892 Swap: 3229024 0 3229024 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592078010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted January 7, 2010 Veteran Share Posted January 7, 2010 Your hard drive is about 1/3 of my speed for buffered disk reads (I get 68.57 MB/s on a SATA average drive - not a speed freak here). Is your drive SATA or legacy ATA with the 40-pin ribbon connector? You aren't touching your swap at all, so you aren't losing time with paging data in and out. And your video looks good, I don't see any problems with your rendering. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592080380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsongirl Posted January 7, 2010 Author Share Posted January 7, 2010 Your hard drive is about 1/3 of my speed for buffered disk reads (I get 68.57 MB/s on a SATA average drive - not a speed freak here). Is your drive SATA or legacy ATA with the 40-pin ribbon connector?You aren't touching your swap at all, so you aren't losing time with paging data in and out. And your video looks good, I don't see any problems with your rendering. It is a legacy ATA with 40-pin ribbon connector. Here is the weird thing though. I ran a palimpsest disk utility thing and am getting a prefailure disk warning with both the 80 gb and 160 gb hdds. And apparently unplugging the slave hdd causes the computer to not be able to find the primary disk drive 0 or 1 and I have to have both drives plugged in for the computer to boot. Bizarre, eh? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592084214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 It is a legacy ATA with 40-pin ribbon connector. Here is the weird thing though. I ran a palimpsest disk utility thing and am getting a prefailure disk warning with both the 80 gb and 160 gb hdds. And apparently unplugging the slave hdd causes the computer to not be able to find the primary disk drive 0 or 1 and I have to have both drives plugged in for the computer to boot.Bizarre, eh? Are one of those drives on a "cable select" setting? If you unplug the slave and the other drive is on "Cable Select" it can confuse some BIOSes Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592084220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsongirl Posted January 7, 2010 Author Share Posted January 7, 2010 Are one of those drives on a "cable select" setting? If you unplug the slave and the other drive is on "Cable Select" it can confuse some BIOSes are you referring to the 10 pin group? The ones that are labeled in pairs? CS, Slave, Master, (Blank), PM2? The master drive is set as master and the slave drive is set to slave. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592084608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted January 7, 2010 Veteran Share Posted January 7, 2010 It is a legacy ATA with 40-pin ribbon connector. Here is the weird thing though. I ran a palimpsest disk utility thing and am getting a prefailure disk warning with both the 80 gb and 160 gb hdds. And apparently unplugging the slave hdd causes the computer to not be able to find the primary disk drive 0 or 1 and I have to have both drives plugged in for the computer to boot.Bizarre, eh? Not so bizarre. Some drives have a separate "Master only" and "Master with Slave" setting. So, if your master requires a slave present, and it isn't there, it doesn't work. As far as the disk utility reporting premature failure, you might want to check your drive's SMART data. You can do a couple of things. sudo smartctl -H /dev/sdb for a brief one-state summary sudo smartctl --test=short /dev/sdb to perform a test taking about a minute or sudo smartctl --test=long /dev/sdb to perform a test taking well over an hour (I think that 1 minute should be enough) I think after the test is completed, you need to re-do the "-H" version to see the result. I'm not that certain, though, so may be wrong on that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592085272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsongirl Posted January 8, 2010 Author Share Posted January 8, 2010 Not so bizarre.Some drives have a separate "Master only" and "Master with Slave" setting. So, if your master requires a slave present, and it isn't there, it doesn't work. As far as the disk utility reporting premature failure, you might want to check your drive's SMART data. You can do a couple of things. sudo smartctl -H /dev/sdb for a brief one-state summary sudo smartctl --test=short /dev/sdb to perform a test taking about a minute or sudo smartctl --test=long /dev/sdb to perform a test taking well over an hour (I think that 1 minute should be enough) I think after the test is completed, you need to re-do the "-H" version to see the result. I'm not that certain, though, so may be wrong on that. But the crazy thing is, that I added the slave drive. The computer came to me with just the one drive, so I should be able to figure out how to reset it to its original connection. I wonder if the ribbon cable could be part of the problem? sudo smartctl -H /dev/sdb for a brief one-state summary: sudo: smartctl: command not found :huh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592088048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted January 8, 2010 Veteran Share Posted January 8, 2010 ^^^ Must not be installed. sudo apt-get install smartmontools ought to fix that. (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592090720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsongirl Posted January 9, 2010 Author Share Posted January 9, 2010 Too funny. Thanks. I will post the results of the test once the I have installed the monitoring tools package! :whistle: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592093326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsongirl Posted January 11, 2010 Author Share Posted January 11, 2010 SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592102636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Jolt Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 Linux will always fail, we're just going to have to wait for Google to fix it, since they love Linux. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592105308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamawesomewicked Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 Linux will always fail, we're just going to have to wait for Google to fix it, since they love Linux. What does google have to do with Ubuntu exactly? Oh, you just saw the topic title and commented. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592105324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2687 Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 Google's Chrome OS is based on a very stripped down version of Ubuntu. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592105326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Jolt Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 But Chrome OS should be all people will need anymore... Think of it this way, not a lot of software on Linux that is productive, so why need all the bloat that does nothing? Chrome OS is a smooth experience based on Linux like Android. Google can help Linux out by introducing new operating systems based on Linux, the other distros will follow. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592105336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife Party Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 @ electric bolt -> wth are you on about? Stop derailing this topic, either make a worthy suggestion to help OP or stop posting nonsense Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592105394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redvamp128 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Did you apply all the updates? - Also if you noticed it was faster before a kernel update , I would say try an earlier one . You can hit escape as soon grub shows up- then test to see if maybe an earlier one is faster. on my other system- I did notice a speed slow down with one kernel update- but I went back to one earlier- but the next one fixed it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/857912-ubuntu-910-is-insanely-slow/#findComment-592105404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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