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GRRM posted this today, maybe this is how big the Dragons will get?

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(Dany's ancestor Aegon Targaryen riding his dragon Balerion the Black Dread into battle)

Do you have a link to this post? Is it from Twitter, or does GRRM have a blog?

Thanks, that one worked. I have definitely never heard it before, but the song isn't bad. I didn't understand any of the lyrics, but still, not bad.  :rofl:

 

Really? I think it was used it every single sporting montage for about a year after it came out, cause of it being uplifting.

Really? I think it was used it every single sporting montage for about a year after it came out, cause of it being uplifting.

That's ironic considering where I work, but nope, I don't think I've ever listened to it before.

Yeah I really don't understand the uproar that scene is causing. It's like people intentionally put blinders on for just that one scene; just to give them something to complain about. Meanwhile, last season we saw a pregnant woman get stabbed repeatedly in the stomach then get her throat cut and everyone talks about how shocking and edgy the show is!

 

TV shows like Criminal Minds and all of the other stupid crime dramas depict rape, torture, and murder all the time, but this particular scene people have a problem with? I don't get it.

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That's ironic considering where I work, but nope, I don't think I've ever listened to it before.

 

A certain little place across the street from the amusement park?

 

Also, I've never heard it before either. And I watch all major sporting events.

Yeah I really don't understand the uproar that scene is causing. It's like people intentionally put blinders on for just that one scene; just to give them something to complain about. Meanwhile, last season we saw a pregnant woman get stabbed repeatedly in the stomach then get her throat cut and everyone talks about how shocking and edgy the show is!

 

TV shows like Criminal Minds and all of the other stupid crime dramas depict rape, torture, and murder all the time, but this particular scene people have a problem with? I don't get it.

 

The outrage is because it wasn't rape in the books. It was forceful but GRRM wrote it as perfectly consensual. No matter how they try to spin it now (with the producer backtracking), it was shown on TV as a rape scene.

A certain little place across the street from the amusement park?

You got it.  :shifty:

 

 

The outrage is because it wasn't rape in the books. It was forceful but GRRM wrote it as perfectly consensual. No matter how they try to spin it now (with the producer backtracking), it was shown on TV as a rape scene.

I understand that it wasn't that way in the book, but my point is there have been worse (or similarly awful) things in other episodes (and the same episode!) and other tv shows. I just don't get why this particular one is pushing so many buttons.

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By the way, that wasn't rape. Jaime forced it at the beginning, but when the scene ends she agrees to it. She even puts her leg around him, insinuating the act.

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By the way, that wasn't rape. Jaime forced it at the beginning, but when the scene ends she agrees to it. She even puts her leg around him, insinuating the act.

 

I'm pretty liberal when it comes to these kind of things but I have to agree, I don't feel that was a rape scene. Where's the outrage over ######ing next to the dead body of their inbred sociopathic love child. smh.

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If you've read the books, it means jack sh*t this time. Can't recall one scene that is from the books.

 

Nah, most of it was, and what wasn't shouldn't change the outcome of the season much (the Craster's subplot). Except for the ending, and holy #### what an ending it was.

 

TV spoilers

 

So White Walkers are a society, and besides turning the dead to zombies (wights), they can turn the living as well, pretty obvious into other White Walkers.

 

Nah, most of it was, and what wasn't shouldn't change the outcome of the season much (the Craster's subplot). Except for the ending, and holy #### what an ending it was.

Agreed, it shouldn't really change the outcome. And I agree the ending was great. But I really find it hard to recall single scene that was in the books (maybe Littlefinger's speech and a bit of Meereen).

If you've read the books, it means jack sh*t this time. Can't recall one scene that is from the books.

To be honest, I'm glad they're deviating from the books. I haven't read them myself, but from what I heard book 4 (or 5?) veers way off main story lines and starts following brand new characters with almost no tie-ins to the people we've been following thus far. And GRRM still hasn't finished the next book or brought the White Walkers into the story in any real capacity. That is all based on second-hand knowledge, so if it's wrong I apologize. However, if it's correct there is no way in hell I'd want them to stick 100% to the books. That version of the show would be way too drawn-out and boring.

 

That being said, I thought this episode was kind of boring. All exposition, no action. And some cliche character decisions that felt like a cop-out for a show that has generally steered clear of TV show stereotypes.

They aren't deviating from the books. They are creating scenes for characters because certain characters go long periods without being seen. Thats all. Nothing will change.

That's fine with me as long as they keep the pace going. They're already pushing the limits of waiting for the White Walkers to show up.

Possible spoiler from last night due to the labeling of information using HBO Go.

 

If it is true, it is a spoiler for BOTH those who have read all 5 books and those who have only watched the show.

 

http://io9.com/this-accidental-game-of-thrones-spoiler-just-changed-1568796246

 

They have since removed the reference in question, which adds to the credibility.

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