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How can anyone say that the race scene doesn't move along the story? Chopping off Theon's dick didn't move it along either but nobody bitched about that. Everyone is so PC these days that they feel they have to be offended by a rape scene in a television show. The reason for it being there was to further vilify Ramsay and make you really detest him. When he dies, it's going to feel extra sweet.

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How can anyone say that the race scene doesn't move along the story? Chopping off Theon's dick didn't move it along either but nobody bitched about that. Everyone is so PC these days that they feel they have to be offended by a rape scene in a television show. The reason for it being there was to further vilify Ramsay and make you really detest him. When he dies, it's going to feel extra sweet.

Unless he becomes king at the endΒ  :o

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How can anyone say that the race scene doesn't move along the story? Chopping off Theon's dick didn't move it along either but nobody bitched about that. Everyone is so PC these days that they feel they have to be offended by a rape scene in a television show. The reason for it being there was to further vilify Ramsay and make you really detest him. When he dies, it's going to feel extra sweet.

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The difference is that Theon's castration and transformation into Reek happens in the novels. Sansa getting raped does not.

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The difference is that Theon's castration and transformation into Reek happens in the novels. Sansa getting raped does not.

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What if it happens in the next book? Then not only does it happen in the book, the show then actually saved us from the torture of another character (Jeyne Poole), and Sansa goes through the same motions anyway. People shouldn't judge these things without looking at the bigger picture, and we won't know the bigger picture, not before the show is completely over (or maybe in 2024 when the books are finished) and we have the complete character arc to look at. People are quick to judge what this means for Sansa as a character, without knowing what it means for Sansa as a character.

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Doubt it. The show is half fan fiction at this point.

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The Alayne chapter we got from TWOW really sets up Harry as a sleazeball, if you ask me. It wouldn't be farfetched he's setting up Sansa as flirty and crap, then for that to backfire on her.

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What if it happens in the next book? Then not only does it happen in the book, the show then actually saved us from the torture of another character (Jeyne Poole), and Sansa goes through the same motions anyway. People shouldn't judge these things without looking at the bigger picture, and we won't know the bigger picture, not before the show is completely over (or maybe in 2024 when the books are finished) and we have the complete character arc to look at. People are quick to judge what this means for Sansa as a character, without knowing what it means for Sansa as a character.

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Judging by the events of Book 5, it won't be possible.

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The Alayne chapter we got from TWOW really sets up Harry as a sleazeball, if you ask me. It wouldn't be farfetched he's setting up Sansa as flirty and crap, then for that to backfire on her.

He can be the biggest sleazeball in Westeros and he'd still be a far cry from the evil that is Ramsey.

They met!

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Tyrion & Jorah actually met Daenerys

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Buahaha, talk about fixing the books' shortcomings. Awesome episode.

What shortcomings? The show is just ahead of the books in that department.

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He can be the biggest sleazeball in Westeros and he'd still be a far cry from the evil that is Ramsey.

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But he can still rape Sansa, that's my point.

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What shortcomings? The show is just ahead of the books in that department.

The overbloated Tyrion storyline which took an entire book, which ultimately even failed to result in

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meeting up with Daenerys

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is a shortcoming, if you ask me. The show just made a clever change there and trimmed the story significantly. Remember Penny? *shivers* In the end, this won't change much, as

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they'll soon be separated after the Daznak Pit crap goes down

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but it feels 100x more rewarding to actually see them interact (which I guess will happen next episode).

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But he can still rape Sansa, that's my point.

Anyone can rape her, but that doesn't mean they'll inflict the same amount of damage Ramsey would.

The overbloated Tyrion storyline which took an entire book, which ultimately even failed to result in

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meeting up with Daenerys

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is a shortcoming, if you ask me. The show just made a clever change there and trimmed the story significantly. Remember Penny? *shivers* In the end, this won't change much, as

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book spoiler

they'll soon be separated after the Daznak Pit crap goes down

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but it feels 100x more rewarding to actually see them interact (which I guess will happen next episode).

I quite liked Tyrion's journey and they haven't met in the 5th book because a huge army got in the way. Penny had the role of showing Tyrion that there's still stuff to live for after his spirit was crushed by finding the truth about Tysha. Finding the truth about Tysha was the most crucial character development Tyrion went through during the whole of ASOIAF IMO, so everything that followed it was also pretty high on the list.

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So yeah, I pretty much disagree with everything you've said.

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