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Yeah I have watched that scene so many times now... and honestly I don't see what is wrong with it, the only thing that I would nit pick at would be the camera angle but apart from that, the dragon and flying looks pretty damn good to me.

 

 

Talking of which, is there any idea how many are left? Didn't she only have 8,000?

I imagine that she has only lost a few hundred unsullied at most

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Didn't she say she wasn't going to do anymore nude scenes? The walk of shame is coming for Lena Headey apparently.

 

Anyway, I thought the last episode was awesome. The attack of the White Walkers came a bit unexpected and fast too after moving so slowly these past seasons.

 

Yeah she did, only body doubles from now on... Dumbass double standards... "bare all in first season, then after it gets popular imma do a body double..." that logic :laugh:

White walkers have only appeared in the novels twice. Once in the very prologue of the series, and the second time at the Fist of the First Men.

 

The show has quite a few differences now, so its not the biggest deal, but I'm confident that The Winds of Winter will go to press before April of 2016. Now, obviously he's not writing A Dream of Spring in under a year, so S7 will be years before B7, but we can worry about that next year.

ah, Someone also replied that george gave "guidelines" to where they were heading so I imagine S7 will be the most non-book related season (eg made up? )

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I found the Arena scene a bit annoying because the harpies somehow just disappeared after they managed to chase Drogon away with spears so that the rest of Dany's party would have time to stare after the dragon.

 

Old man Jorah fighting was a pleasant surprise though.

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Yeah she did, only body doubles from now on... Dumbass double standards... "bare all in first season, then after it gets popular imma do a body double..." that logic :laugh:

 

Tyene sand's boobs >>>>> Khaleesi's boobs :shifty:

 

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Oh boy, how did I not notice this sooner.. So, I was retelling the Hardhome event to a friend, including Jon Snow ending on the north side of The Wall, after leaving by ship, when he returns to Castle Black just so they can have that scene with Alliser Thorne starring down on them. This one is on the same level of stupidity as Yara Greyjoy attacking the Dreadfort somehow in S4, which is on the other side of the continent, and running away with her men afraid of 3 dogs. Well done you muppets!

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Oh boy, how did I not notice this sooner.. So, I was retelling the Hardhome event to a friend, including Jon Snow ending on the north side of The Wall, after leaving by ship, when he returns to Castle Black just so they can have that scene with Alliser Thorne starring down on them. This one is on the same level of stupidity as Yara Greyjoy attacking the Dreadfort somehow in S4, which is on the other side of the continent, and running away with her men afraid of 3 dogs. Well done you muppets!

 

There are several ways this can be explained logically, but what's wrong with just having some dramatic effect?

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There are several ways this can be explained logically, but what's wrong with just having some dramatic effect?

Gimme your best shot on explaining this logically because there's no way this makes sense to me unless you pull some extremely awkward mental gymnastics. Dramatic effect is well and good, but it breaks immersion when it doesn't respect in-universe rules.

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Gimme your best shot on explaining this logically because there's no way this makes sense to me unless you pull some extremely awkward mental gymnastics. Dramatic effect is well and good, but it breaks immersion when it doesn't respect in-universe rules.

-Stannis requested the ships be returned as fast as possible, so they dropped off their cargo on the first stop, which would be on that side of the wall.

-They needed to be organized before entering south, to ensure no one moves on their own, so they traveled north of the wall to minimize some wildlings going rogue.

-The wildlings know their way around north better, so to cut time traveling, they went north of the wall to Castle Black.

-Jon Snow knows nothing.

Any of these is plausible, but again, nothing wrong with just having it that way for dramatic effect.

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-Stannis requested the ships be returned as fast as possible, so they dropped off their cargo on the first stop, which would be on that side of the wall.

-They needed to be organized before entering south, to ensure no one moves on their own, so they traveled north of the wall to minimize some wildlings going rogue.

-The wildlings know their way around north better, so to cut time traveling, they went north of the wall to Castle Black.

-Jon Snow knows nothing.

Any of these is plausible, but again, nothing wrong with just having it that way for dramatic effect.

1. How and why? Last I checked Winterfell can't be reached by ship.

2. I don't follow what you mean with organized? A big chunk of what was left were refugees (children, old people etc.) while the army part was Night's Watch or wildlings following Jon. Also, army of tireless White Walkers and thousands of undead.

3. The "shortest" road to Castle Black puts them on a nice path to be intercepted by the previously mentioned White Walkers and army of undead. Makes perfect sense.

4. Ok.

 

No, they're not, and again, no dramatic effect could make up for that level of bad writing (maybe in a self-aware comedy). If you'd like to try again, here's relevant chunk of the map.

 

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They put considerable distance between themselves and the White Walkers and their army by the time they reached the northside of Eastwatch. Admittedly, it's shaky excuse, but still, I think you're being way too harsh. It's really not that big of a problem, and you know what? I just did a quick google to help my memory, and t seems the plan in the books is even worse: he plans to go to Hardhome through the other side of the wall. So I presume the road back is the same.

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They put considerable distance between themselves and the White Walkers and their army by the time they reached the northside of Eastwatch. Admittedly, it's shaky excuse, but still, I think you're being way too harsh. It's really not that big of a problem, and you know what? I just did a quick google to help my memory, and t seems the plan in the books is even worse: he plans to go to Hardhome through the other side of the wall. So I presume the road back is the same.

Again, one group is made of mythical creatures and tireless undead while the other is made of humans including old people and children. Even if the sea was a huge risk like in the book, the second best plan would be go on foot along the coast after clearing Hardhome and cross to the south at Eastwatch and then go to Castle Black. Personally, I'd stick with the ships, better dead at the bottom of the sea than a mindless undead that might harm others.

 

The problem you're having with the book plan is that you're looking at it from a show perspective. Unlike the show, there's no thousands strong undead army there that we or the characters know of (there probably will eventually). It is the best they had at their disposal considering the information they knew.

 

As for being too harsh, maybe, but that is because I like the show (until they butchered Tyrion at any rate) and that level of bad writing is extremely disappointing.

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One thing I don't understand, if the white walkers can turn the dead into walkers, why not just go crazy when winter comes and go to all the cementaries, war sites and undig the dead, presto! Biggest army EVAR!

That's probably what's going to happen in the show. In the books, there are no walking skeletons so it wouldn't work to the same degree, although I'm sure the old kill people, raise them, kill more people will work nicely once they cross the Wall.

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That's probably what's going to happen in the show. In the books, there are no walking skeletons so it wouldn't work to the same degree, although I'm sure the old kill people, raise them, kill more people will work nicely once they cross the Wall.

In the book skeletons aren't raised at all?

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In the book skeletons aren't raised at all?

If the Others can raise skeletons, then it hasn't happened in the books in recent or in ancient times. You can read about them here (the Recent Events section contains minor book spoilers, but nothing for the show).

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If the Others can raise skeletons, then it hasn't happened in the books in recent or in ancient times. You can read about them here (the Recent Events section contains minor book spoilers, but nothing for the show).

interesting! I need to read me those books!

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