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I'm in the process of testing antivirus software for my office. I'm deciding between two different applications, and I'd like to have some side-by-side comparisons of how well they work. I'm not interested in charts or anything like that that has already been done. I want to see for myself, a live test, of how effective each AV product is.

My users are fairly good at contracting viruses ( :p ), but I can't seem to find any! I'm using IE8 and surfing the internet without any AV software. I'm going to tons of warez & crackz sites, clicking on all the links I can find. My biggest problem is staying away from the porn, since anyone that walks around the corner will see that on my screen. I disabled images for IE to avoid this, but that probably also hindered my ability to get infected.

I already tried the Eicar test virus, but this is not a substantial test as far as I'm concerned. I want to get (a lot) of real viruses. Does anyone know of a sample I can get? If you have a known bad link, post it up!

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Personally I would use data found by other trusted sources. Just because an anti virus can pick up something in one of your tests doesn't mean it will pick up something else in the future.

What I meant by my OP was that I've already looked at all of the data collected by the "professionals" and am interested in a live demo as well. Of course I've taken into account the standardized benchmarks.

http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

That is the only test file that I know of offhand-

I would in the past say do a search for bonzi buddy-- not really a virus but a difficult spyware to get rid of- I would also say do a search for spyware sherrif -- not really the removal but maybe one of those links could get you infected.

http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

That is the only test file that I know of offhand-

I would in the past say do a search for bonzi buddy-- not really a virus but a difficult spyware to get rid of- I would also say do a search for spyware sherrif -- not really the removal but maybe one of those links could get you infected.

LOL Bonzi Buddy... I remember that gay little purple ape from the late 90s. As mentioned in my OP, I don't want Eicar. Already tried it, and it's not really a sufficient AV test. It will let you know if your AV engine is working, but can't demonstrate effectiveness at removing a true infection.

I'm in the process of testing antivirus software for my office. I'm deciding between two different applications, and I'd like to have some side-by-side comparisons of how well they work. I'm not interested in charts or anything like that that has already been done. I want to see for myself, a live test, of how effective each AV product is.

My users are fairly good at contracting viruses ( :p ), but I can't seem to find any! I'm using IE8 and surfing the internet without any AV software. I'm going to tons of warez & crackz sites, clicking on all the links I can find. My biggest problem is staying away from the porn, since anyone that walks around the corner will see that on my screen. I disabled images for IE to avoid this, but that probably also hindered my ability to get infected.

I already tried the Eicar test virus, but this is not a substantial test as far as I'm concerned. I want to get (a lot) of real viruses. Does anyone know of a sample I can get? If you have a known bad link, post it up!

The most virus alerts I've ever gotten were torrent finds looking for "NERO" burning software...practically EVERY SINGLE ONE! I finally bought one, since no one could post a good/working copy.

No insult to you, but I simply cannot fathom how on earth you feel a live demonstration would somehow sway your choice in picking an AV. So the AV detects it? So what, that's like 1 out of a billion viruses. Perhaps you should leave the AV testing to those that actually know what they're doing (presumably they don't need to go around on tech sites asking for viruses to compile their tests...) and perhaps you might try a nicer attitude also.

Unless of course, this is all a ruse and you actually just want a virus so you can infect somebody that's ****ed you off (wouldn't be the first time it's happened)

No insult to you, but I simply cannot fathom how on earth you feel a live demonstration would somehow sway your choice in picking an AV. So the AV detects it? So what, that's like 1 out of a billion viruses. Perhaps you should leave the AV testing to those that actually know what they're doing (presumably they don't need to go around on tech sites asking for viruses to compile their tests...) and perhaps you might try a nicer attitude also.

Unless of course, this is all a ruse and you actually just want a virus so you can infect somebody that's ****ed you off (wouldn't be the first time it's happened)

I don't appreciate the accusation. I tend to have a short attitude with those that post dumbass responses without reading posts (not referring to you, but see above). I choose to test this way because that's what I want. If you don't want to help, then fine. And when you say "leave the testing to those that know what they're doing", I know what I'm doing. I know that I clean viruses off of machines (far) too often, and I know an effective removal when I see it (Malwarebytes, for example, in many cases). I'd like to see this for myself with one of the AV apps I'm testing. Is that OK with you?

I don't appreciate the accusation. I tend to have a short attitude with those that post dumbass responses without reading posts (not referring to you, but see above). I choose to test this way because that's what I want. If you don't want to help, then fine. And when you say "leave the testing to those that know what they're doing", I know what I'm doing. I know that I clean viruses off of machines (far) too often, and I know an effective removal when I see it (Malwarebytes, for example, in many cases). I'd like to see this for myself with one of the AV apps I'm testing. Is that OK with you?

By "know what I'm doing" I assume you mean when the box comes up that asks whether you want to delete the virus or not you know to press "yes"? Seriously, in comparison to the companies out there that dedicate their entire business model to the study of real viruses, their patterns, and anti-virus software heuristics, I'd say your own 'test' is pretty fruitless - if you're serious about protecting your corporate environment, you'll forget endangering it more by downloading viruses on it, and instead do some in-depth study of existing published material on which corporate anti virus solutions work the best.

here is what I would do, start going to torrent sites and clicking on ads. there are plenty of viruses there. you want more go to off the wall porn sites, if they don't have anything on their websites click on the ads. finally go to warez sites and password crack sites and click on the ads there. it is almost ridiculous how easy this stuff is to get on your computer when you try to get stuff for free/work around licensing.

you can also try downloading torrents, I would say about 50-70% are loaded with viruses/malware.

By "know what I'm doing" I assume you mean when the box comes up that asks whether you want to delete the virus or not you know to press "yes"? Seriously, in comparison to the companies out there that dedicate their entire business model to the study of real viruses, their patterns, and anti-virus software heuristics, I'd say your own 'test' is pretty fruitless - if you're serious about protecting your corporate environment, you'll forget endangering it more by downloading viruses on it, and instead do some in-depth study of existing published material on which corporate anti virus solutions work the best.

While I agree somewhat, reading can only go so far. I don't know any IT admin who has purchased the licenses for a domain/workgroup/massive networrk to an av product without actually trying it first. There is nothing wrong with throwing a couple viruses/malware at them in a sandbox and seeing how they react and behave. If you even take it from an end user perspective, seeing how they react to these programs and viruses could be valuable information. I'd almost call someone an incompetent/lazy admin if they didn't do this.

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