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It's because you have the bookmarks toolbar enabled. If you have it enabled, the 'dropdown' will be on the far right of your bookmarks bar.

With all due respect, why don't you try that stylish yourself?

I have never used a stylish. I didn't want to screw anything up. I figured one of you experts might already be using it and could let me know. If not the stylish, is there any other way to get multi-row bookmark toolbars in Firefox 4 RC Build 1? The old add-on, Multi-row Bookmarks, no longer works with Firefox 4. Yes, even with forced compatibility.

Where do I get the builds with all that eye-candy incorporated into it? Are those tryserver builds or others?

I'm a little disappointed since the doorhanger style download manager and other stuff is not going to make it into Fx4. :no:

"Are We Pretty Yet?"... Psssh! Yeah right! :angry:

its since beta 11 i guess

Doorhanger styles are there for ONLY ADDON DOWNLOADING :)

I have never used a stylish. I didn't want to screw anything up. I figured one of you experts might already be using it and could let me know. If not the stylish, is there any other way to get multi-row bookmark toolbars in Firefox 4 RC Build 1? The old add-on, Multi-row Bookmarks, no longer works with Firefox 4. Yes, even with forced compatibility.

Stylish will not screw things up. It's just css, once you delete the code, you'll return to default.

And if you're still worried, then create a test profile and do every test you like on that profile. That way, you can just delete it if something screw things up.

Yeah, Stylish is perfectly safe, which is kinda the point. It's a modular method of tweaking the styles of Firefox and webpages. (Same with Greasemonkey, except that is for JS).

The doorhanger notifications will be spread around the UI as and when they have time - and as bogas04 says, they're already there for addon downloads. I'd rather not wait longer for Fx4 for a new download manager UI. The UI team have already done a lot of great work.

Don't expect all addons to magically work with Fx4. It's not been released yet, it's not reasonable to complain.

Last thing, the Firefox UI is, and always will be, customizable: don't like the missing title bar? Add it back! Want tabs below? Tick that option! Missing old status bar stuff? Install that status bar addon! Yeah, the defaults are changing, because Fx is aimed at more than just us. (And FWIW, I like the update, a lot).

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is there a chance they would skip the RC and go straight to final if no showstopper bugs are found?

Impossible. Can't recall the last time such a major program with a large user base has skipped RC stage, even more so with one that has experience major delays as a result of constantly finding new bugs. With that said, I anticipate them to release at least two RC builds as I am sure there are quick a few bugs left to fix, and then ponder RTM. Also, the lack of showstopper bugs is not the only criteria for releasing RTM. Rather it is the quality and stability of the build that will dictate it.

Impossible. Can't recall the last time such a major program with a large user base has skipped RC stage, even more so with one that has experience major delays as a result of constantly finding new bugs. With that said, I anticipate them to release at least two RC builds as I am sure there are quick a few bugs left to fix, and then ponder RTM. Also, the lack of showstopper bugs is not the only criteria for releasing RTM. Rather it is the quality and stability of the build that will dictate it.

Quality and stability issues are showstopper bugs, if they dictate launch ability :)

I wouldn't say Fx4 has experienced delays just because of finding bugs: it's also strongly related to finishing feature work.

One thing I hope they fix is how they ruined the Bookmarks Menu. You used to be able to drag and drop bookmarks easily. Now, it has a mind of its own. Especially if you want to move a bookmark's order. Like move one bookmark closer to another. Moving it above or below it. It seems something has changed since Firefox 4 in regards to the bookmarks menu. It's no longer as easy and smooth as it used to be when moving bookmarks from the menu. Sometimes you have to hold down the mouse button longer in order to get that line that allows you to move it where you want it. Anyone know what I mean? It works perfectly under the bookmarks manager, though.

its since beta 11 i guess

Doorhanger styles are there for ONLY ADDON DOWNLOADING :)

It's pretty horrible too. First there's this door hanger, then there's this window where I click install, then it's back to the doorhanger to restart. Eventually restarting won't even happen, but until then, it's a pretty messy affair.

One thing I hope they fix is how they ruined the Bookmarks Menu. You used to be able to drag and drop bookmarks easily. Now, it has a mind of its own. Especially if you want to move a bookmark's order. Like move one bookmark closer to another. Moving it above or below it. It seems something has changed since Firefox 4 in regards to the bookmarks menu. It's no longer as easy and smooth as it used to be when moving bookmarks from the menu. Sometimes you have to hold down the mouse button longer in order to get that line that allows you to move it where you want it. Anyone know what I mean? It works perfectly under the bookmarks manager, though.

I don't have this problem. I can easily drag and arrange my bookmarks whether it's from the toolbar, dropdown or in the main library.

It's pretty horrible too. First there's this door hanger, then there's this window where I click install, then it's back to the doorhanger to restart. Eventually restarting won't even happen, but until then, it's a pretty messy affair.

No XPI Install Delay

I've had no issues with the bookmarks menu interaction either.

It's pretty horrible too. First there's this door hanger, then there's this window where I click install, then it's back to the doorhanger to restart. Eventually restarting won't even happen, but until then, it's a pretty messy affair.

But think of it like this: the doorhanger is for stuff you don't *have* to interact with ... but by clicking to install an addon you have determined that you do want to interact with it at that moment, so it's justified to show a dialog. I agree it's a little odd and could do with improvement, anyway.

I actually like the default FF4 theme (plus persona skin) more mainly due the square tabs being more appealing than the office folder-like tabs in chrome.

I don't have this problem. I can easily drag and arrange my bookmarks whether it's from the toolbar, dropdown or in the main library.

No XPI Install Delay

Good to know. Must be an extension causing it. Possibly one of my bookmark extensions such as Add Bookmark Here2, 2 Pane Bookmarks, or Stay Open Menu.

So, I downloaded and installed the RC1 build that was referred to a few days ago. In the about box, it just says Firefox 4.0 as the version number. No RC, no beta. I am not joking about this! Check it out:

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Anyone else with something similar?

So, I downloaded and installed the RC1 build that was referred to a few days ago. In the about box, it just says Firefox 4.0 as the version number. No RC, no beta. I am not joking about this! Check it out:

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Anyone else with something similar?

That's how it looks for everyone using it. It would be nice if they put an RC in there somewhere to differentiate the versions.

I just noticed this after looking here and then looking at my own about file. Rather strange that they would do it that way they are generally rather good about putting an RC or build number into the about pages for these things.

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