Installing a Factory Deck into Another Car?

[Berserk87]

I've been considering buying the AVH-P3200BT for my car.

My car, a 2009 kia rio, already has a double din deck in it right now and what I wanted to do was install my factory deck into my moms car.

Is it possible to get a wire harness for my stock kia deck that will allow it to be installed into another car?

Or would I have to wreck my kia stock wiring to do it?

Also, any tips on where to buy the avh-p3200bt? amazon has the lowest price right now that i've seen.

[MR_Candyman]

I think you would need to go to kia and see if you can buy another stock wiring harness. Chances are you can't, so if you did want to go this route you'll have to cut yours off and solder on the new harness. I believe kia have very simple radios so I don't think you'll have an issue using it in another vehicle. I would just rip the desk out of your car and see what connections it has, hopefully it's not like my grand caravan that has a plug to send out a digital signal to a computer that activates a relay that turns on the amp. I still haven't gotten around to by-passing that setup, so I still have the stock deck in

[Sikh]

If your mom has a Kia yes, if not NO. Its bad enough stock decks are attached to the car, the fact yours is double din and kia, makes it worse. I wire decks occasionally(every weekend or so) and from experience you wanna stick the cars manufacture stock deck with the car.

If its a Rio and your going to another model, as long as the size and placement is the same, itll work. BUT if you go from a Kia Rio to a Ford Focus(sorry just came on tv bahah) then it WONT work and if it does itll be a PAIN IN THE ASS.

Now, as to your aftermarket deck, GOOD CHOICE. Once you wire it, make sure its "hot" if you have a car alarm, so if someone trys to work it out or use it while the car is off parked and locked, your alarm will go off. Im saying this because a deck like that WILL GET NOTICED, unless you find a good way to hide it(which there is none).

Im going to carputer my car this summer and I already installed my "stage 3" alarm :p. It has stage 1 ='s normal, stage 2 ='s trip(so when they snip normal power, trip comes into play and keeps alarm going but faster to siginify someons attempting for sure and not just sound or a ball hit it or something) and stage 3 ='s MY PERSONAL TOUCH, air horn with back up battery :p. So once they pass stage 2, stage 3 WILL notify ANYONE AROUND in 3 block radius that somethings happening, and by then i should be outside beating the **** out of this person and waiting for the cops, or just chasing the person down and beating the **** out of them.

Next comes the 7" touch screen im working on getting.

[Berserk87]

  On 24/05/2010 at 05:18, Sikh said:

Now, as to your aftermarket deck, GOOD CHOICE.

I work car audio at best buy :laugh:

3 sets of 4V pre-outs, nice screen/interface, good EQ features, pioneer etc...

  On 24/05/2010 at 05:18, Sikh said:

Once you wire it, make sure its "hot" if you have a car alarm, so if someone trys to work it out or use it while the car is off parked and locked, your alarm will go off. Im saying this because a deck like that WILL GET NOTICED, unless you find a good way to hide it(which there is none).

I don't have an alarm right now but im planning on getting the viper starter/alarm, with two way remote.

[Sikh]

  On 24/05/2010 at 05:51, Berserk87 said:

I work car audio at best buy :laugh:

3 sets of 4V pre-outs, nice screen/interface, good EQ features, pioneer etc...

I don't have an alarm right now but im planning on getting the viper starter/alarm, with two way remote.

I feel bad for you(best buy part) but Viper alarms are awesome. I have the all entry(if thats what you wanna call it, not proper name but oh well) alarm for my car. I wired it myself and I had to get a special edition cause I drive a stick.

Now, to the deck part, yeah the 3 sets of 4v's are good, but unless your running PRO SPL GEAR, then i dont know why there important, as your gonna wire them strong anyway.

For instance i have a 12" SPL Sub(dont worry about manufacturer :p) with a MBquart 1000k amp. I got it grounded in the trunk. How? I got 1/0 gauge running to the back, split to the box(again terminology, idc atm) from where I have 2 batterys connected and grounded. Then amp. No cap, caps are useless. Its because of this my alternator surfices. Its stock @ 90amps. But, I also have a small MB Quart for my Fronts and Rears. All this, with a fuse break in the trunk with a 40amp fuse is perfect. Runs beautifully. Alarms wired from there to(well stage 3 is :p).

My deck does 4 or 8v, its an old exclipse deck, high end at the time but yeah.

Either way, its not really needed as your running RCA's and RCA's should stick to sound and not carry power(and static imo) to the amp.

Anyway, keep us updated!

[Berserk87]

  On 24/05/2010 at 08:21, Sikh said:

I feel bad for you(best buy part)

pays better than my last job, and I'm getting full time, and I've moved up faster in 6 months here, than I did in FOUR YEARS at my last job. other employees are pretty cool too.

Staff discounts are awesome.

  On 24/05/2010 at 08:21, Sikh said:

Now, to the deck part, yeah the 3 sets of 4v's are good, but unless your running PRO SPL GEAR, then i dont know why there important, as your gonna wire them strong anyway.

some people say its a huge difference, some people say no difference.

I would figure the signal would have to be amped less making any interference your picking up (if any) less noticeable.

  On 24/05/2010 at 08:21, Sikh said:

from where I have 2 batterys connected and grounded. Then amp. No cap, caps are useless. Its because of this my alternator surfices

Nice setup. a cap would useless for your setup since you have two batterys.

I've helped out a couple people that needed a cap just because their cars were older and their alternator/battery couldn't handle their amp.

what gauge are the wiring harness'?

[MR_Candyman]

ok...I'm going to clarify some things:

1. Manufacturer differences ONLY matter if the radio controls something else (such as alarm or turning on an amp though digital signal means). If it doesn't do this, you can stick that radio in any other vehicle so long as the sizing is the same (for instance my grand caravan is in between a single and double din, so no chance for a double, and need to use an aftermarket plate for the single din decks)

2. The different voltages of pre-outs DO matter. If you increase the voltage, you decrease the current. You pick up more RF noise in a higher current setup than you do a low current. Unless you have 0 RF noise or 100% effective shielding (which doesn't happen in either case) then it will make a difference. Will it be noticeable? That depends on how much noise interference there is. If you get a lot in a low voltage pre-out setup and switch to a high voltage pre-out setup, you WILL notice a difference.

3. I don't use caps either, but they are NOT useless. There is a limit to how much current a battery can provide. In a high power setup, your bass might try to draw more power at the peaks than your battery can handle. This not only heats up your battery, decreasing it's life, it is also really not good for your sound equipment and will also have a negative effect on your sound. You either get around this buy installing another battery in parallel (doubling the current carrying abilities) or you can install a capacitor (which have a VERY quick discharge rate = lots of current)

oh, about wiring harness guages: The wires can be anywhere from 10-16 guage depending on manufacturer. I find that most are either 14 or 16 though. Try to use the same guage because changing guages part way through the wire causes an increase in resistance which you don't really want. If you have to change it though, go bigger (smaller number)

[Berserk87]

I was wondering about gauge of wires for when I order some butt connectors.

[Berserk87]

  On 24/05/2010 at 17:27, MR_Candyman said:

1. Manufacturer differences ONLY matter if the radio controls something else (such as alarm or turning on an amp though digital signal means). If it doesn't do this, you can stick that radio in any other vehicle so long as the sizing is the same (for instance my grand caravan is in between a single and double din, so no chance for a double, and need to use an aftermarket plate for the single din decks)

how would I find out if my kias stock deck does any of that?

[MR_Candyman]

I said kias still probably don't and it runs out I'm right: http://www.modifiedlife.com/2009-kia-rio-car-stereo-installation-instructions/

no special wires.

The largest butt connectors are for 10-12 gauge wires and have a yellow insulation. A butt splice with blue insulation is for wires that are 14-16 gauge. Red insulated butt connectors are for 22-18 gauge wires.

I do however strongly recommend soldering and using heat shrink over the solder. It will not corrode (causing loss of performance and eventually stop working all together) and a reduction in resistance (butt connectors create a lot of resistance). However, if you intend to swap out head units every couple of years, doing a good crimping job can save you a lot of hassle. In this case though, I would go for a different connector, such as one used for RC like the Traxxas connector, Deans connector, or Power Poles. They're all a bit different, but all intended to be long lasting pull apart connectors with very low resistance.

[Berserk87]

  On 25/05/2010 at 07:38, MR_Candyman said:

I said kias still probably don't and it runs out I'm right: http://www.modifiedlife.com/2009-kia-rio-car-stereo-installation-instructions/

no special wires.

so if the deck fits it would work fine than.

is it possible to order the deck side of the wiring harness on factory decks?

  On 25/05/2010 at 07:38, MR_Candyman said:

I do however strongly recommend soldering and using heat shrink over the solder. It will not corrode (causing loss of performance and eventually stop working all together) and a reduction in resistance (butt connectors create a lot of resistance). However, if you intend to swap out head units every couple of years, doing a good crimping job can save you a lot of hassle. In this case though, I would go for a different connector, such as one used for RC like the Traxxas connector, Deans connector, or Power Poles. They're all a bit different, but all intended to be long lasting pull apart connectors with very low resistance.

for my car, I would be soldering, although I don't know anyone around that sells heat shrink plus I would end up needing a heat gun.

electrical tape is my only option right now, but that doesn't look as professional.

Im trying to think if theres any reason at all I would want a bypass for it.

Watching movies while driving doesn't interest me..

edit: I remembered I have a site bookmarked that gives me the inventory of car yards and such, I should be able to remove the factory wiring from a junk yard kia after 2006 or so.

[MR_Candyman]

  On 25/05/2010 at 09:26, Berserk87 said:

so if the deck fits it would work fine than.

is it possible to order the deck side of the wiring harness on factory decks?

for my car, I would be soldering, although I don't know anyone around that sells heat shrink plus I would end up needing a heat gun.

electrical tape is my only option right now, but that doesn't look as professional.

Im trying to think if theres any reason at all I would want a bypass for it.

Watching movies while driving doesn't interest me..

You would need to go to Kia and see if you can order a wiring harness for the stereo side.

The Source, Home Depot, and Princess Auto all sell heat shrink. You don't need a heat gun, a blow dryer will do, or put it over the exhaust ports on the soldering iron (this is what I always do), or even roll the tip of the soldering iron over the heat shrink. You could also use a lighter, just be more careful with that one.

I'm not sure where the idea for the bypass came from

[Berserk87]

  On 25/05/2010 at 09:38, MR_Candyman said:

I'm not sure where the idea for the bypass came from

Just a random, but partially related, thought.

I was thinking of ordering a relay for a bypass, but I can't think of any situation where not having one would be a problem.

[MR_Candyman]

Well then don't get one. You can always install it later if you want

[Berserk87]

Appearently the p3200bt doesn't do music over Bluetooth...so......

[x-scratch]

have you tried crutchfield to see if it matches ? link

edit i looked they have a kit free on that site for it

[Berserk87]

  On 29/05/2010 at 00:41, sCrAtCh420th said:

have you tried crutchfield to see if it matches ? link

edit i looked they have a kit free on that site for it

I can get the kits/harness from work for 1/3 of the price.