PS3 outsold 360 by 4 million in past 12 months

[Rigby]

The Wii does not count as next gen hardware. It's basically the Wii on a place of its own and then the PS3 and X360.

I love it when people start spouting this rubbish. Is the Wii currently Nintendo's newest console? Yes it is, so enough already.

"OMG it's not next-gen, it doesn't count, derp!"

Whatever "next-gen" is. It's like whining that the SNES didn't have blast processing. :laugh:

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

You do realize that Black Ops is on the PS3 too, right? And move is on the way as well. Along with FFXIV, The Agency and DC Universe.

You do realize that CoD historically sells best on the 360 right? And Activision announced an exclusive multi-year DLC deal until 2012 at E3 right? :p

But yeah I could list games up to my eye balls for what's coming out on each console. But you're never gonna beat the hype/sales of Halo ;)

[Brad.]

But yeah I could list games up to my eye balls for what's coming out on each console. But you're never gonna beat the hype/sales of Halo ;)

True. I'm seriously contemplating buying the Halo Reach XBOX 360 S console, mainly for halo reach. I just don't know whether to buy it or not. :(

[Hedon]

All in thanks to Japan. If it were Europe and North America, the PS3 would be toast.

[Corris Veteran]

All in thanks to Japan. If it were Europe and North America, the PS3 would be toast.

They pretty even in the EU at the moment, they keep going back and forth on who has sold most there, at least they were earlier in the year, though no doubt one has pulled ahead by 3 units or something by now, lol.

So if it was just America the "PS3 would be toast"

[Hedon]

Well if they are even in Europe, that makes it a wash there. Adding Europe and NA combined makes them toast.

[Corris Veteran]

Well if they are even in Europe, that makes it a wash there. Adding Europe and NA combined makes them toast.

Yes, and adding just Europe and Japan makes the 360 "toast"

You can't just selectively post regions to say one is "toast" and the other is not, I'm not really a fan of this referring to either as toast, as they would carry on just fine anyway, lol.

[Hedon]

Yes that would make the 360 toast. I never stated otherwise. I was pointing out that Japan is the ps3's ace.

[Corris Veteran]

Yes that would make the 360 toast. I never stated otherwise. I was pointing out that Japan is the ps3's ace.

I didn't say you had, I'm just showing that there is another side to such a comparison with a different result, that's all. :D

[Julius Caro]

5 years in and the PS3 is still behind the Xbox 360.

The new xbox will drive sales in the next few months, just as the slim helped sony out.

Lets not forget that Microsoft can afford to aggressively cut the price of their console. Sony is not in the same position mainly due to the blu-ray drive.

Once Microsoft feel the heat they will bring down the price even more...

Kinda pointless looking at the numbers though, neither of them will ever catch up with the wii.

It's been, what, almost 4 years? The price of that blu ray drive was expensive back then. Now it shouldn't be any more.

To me both consoles sell at around the same pace, and the 360 was available before the PS3 anyway.

[dead.cell]

I'd like to know how many 360 sales are repeated purchases though. Last family/neighbor get-together revealed a number of parents who ended up buying multiple 360's. Seems everyone I talk to in fact is on their third 360... That isn't to say those sales don't count at all, but it's interesting how many people I know alone that have bought multiple 360's. I can only imagine how this goes globally...

(we're still on the first that we purchased last year)

[Julius Caro]

It's a new product / revision of the X360 and because its new people will want to replace their older versions with newer ones and those that have not bought the X360 yet will buy it.

Same thing happened when the PS3 Slim was released.

Why should people replace their older version with the newer ones? People say PS3 is expensive, but damn, if you have to replace your hardware during the same generation, you know something's wrong. None of my friends has replaced their 'fat' PS3 when the slim was released. They still work.

[Hedon]

Same with people doing repeated ps3 purchases.

I'd like to know how many 360 sales are repeated purchases though. Last family/neighbor get-together revealed a number of parents who ended up buying multiple 360's. Seems everyone I talk to in fact is on their third 360... That isn't to say those sales don't count at all, but it's interesting how many people I know alone that have bought multiple 360's. I can only imagine how this goes globally...

(we're still on the first that we purchased last year)

[thealexweb]

What a surprise Wii way out in front... again.

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

Same with people doing repeated ps3 purchases.

or PS2, PSP and DS

What a surprise Wii way out in front... again.

Actually Nintendo have nothing to celebrate...

Nintendo Q1: Cash collapses, global software dates updated, DS hardware down 45%

July 29th, 2010 @ 08:50

By Patrick Garratt

Nintendo?s shown big drops in both profit and sales for the period ending June 30, with the company making a loss for the period.

Sales were down 25.6 percent for the quarter, dropped to ?188.6 billion from ?253.5 billion in the same period last year.

Operating income dropped 42.2 percent, down to ?23.3 billion from ?40.4 billion in the previous year. The company was actually in loss for the quarter, with net income minus ?25.2 billion yen compared to a profit of ?42.3 billion yen last year, a drop of 60.6 percent.

Wii the Invincible; DS, not so much

Wii hardware sales stood at 3.04 million units, up from the 2.23 million sold in the first quarter of FY ?09, a rise of 36.6 percent

Wii software dropped, however, down to 28.17 million copies in the period from 31.07 million last year. That?s a fall of 9.3 percent.

DS hardware sold 3.15 million units in the quarter down from 5.7 million in the same period last year, a slide of 44.7 percent.

DS software managed 22.42 million sales, down from 29.09 million in Q1 ?09, a decrease of 22.9 percent.

Super software

Despite general woes, Nintendo saw some huge sales from its top software line-up, as seen below:

* Super Mario Galaxy 2 ? 4.09 million.

* Wii Sports Resort ? 3.02 million

* Wii Sports ? 2.73 million

* Wii Fit Plus ? 1.87 million

* New Super Mario Bros. Wii ? 1.1 million

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

GT5 will make that 3.6million gap even less ;)

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

Halo Reach/Black Ops will increase it again ;)

Besides, isn't it only NA that has an official 2010 date so far?

[BajiRav]

This is the Ps3 they're talking about here, not the PsP.

I don't see MS pulling a Sony'09-early'10 caliber year anytime soon. Sony still has it's momentum and doesn't seem like they'll be silent for a good while.

Thing's are moving along steadily for them so... It's originally projected as a 10yr life-cycle. I think 'too little, too late' may be just a bit premature.

what? where did I say anything that refers to PSP?

GT5 will make that 3.6million gap even less ;)

err... Halo:Reach will be equivalent or more so the gap can stay like that. :p (useless speculation FTW)

[Guest]

It's been, what, almost 4 years? The price of that blu ray drive was expensive back then. Now it shouldn't be any more.

To me both consoles sell at around the same pace, and the 360 was available before the PS3 anyway.

DVD drives will always be cheaper to manufacture so Microsoft have that advantage.

The price of xbox live subscriptions will also allow them further undercut the price of the PS3 in the next few months...

I'd like to know how many 360 sales are repeated purchases though. Last family/neighbor get-together revealed a number of parents who ended up buying multiple 360's. Seems everyone I talk to in fact is on their third 360... That isn't to say those sales don't count at all, but it's interesting how many people I know alone that have bought multiple 360's. I can only imagine how this goes globally...

(we're still on the first that we purchased last year)

I know two people who have a spare PS3 (fat model) in their sitting room just for use as a media centre.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

GT always sells better than Halo

[Corris Veteran]

GT5 will make that 3.6million gap even less ;)

Halo Reach/Black Ops will increase it again ;)

Besides, isn't it only NA that has an official 2010 date so far?

err... Halo:Reach will be equivalent or more so the gap can stay like that. :p (useless speculation FTW)

While Halo Reach will no doubt sell a lot, there has already been a proper Halo release in Halo 3, and then there was ODST too on the Xbox 360 so far, but no proper release for Gran Turismo, so I personally would assume that a first proper Gran Turismo on the system would bring in more people than the third Halo release.

[Sethos]

[macrosslover]

Move isn't going to do much for Sony just like Kinect isn't going to do much for Microsoft. If the argument against Kinect is that people will just buy a Wii or already have a Wii, how can that very same argument not be used against Move. The only people who will be buying Move/Kinect at first are people who probably already own the systems so I don't see either manufacturer getting a boost of new people into their consoles. Sadly they still suckup anything Nintendo offers them this generation.

[Corris Veteran]

Such negativity. :p

Much Better. :D

[Sethos]

Much Better. :D

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