Panacik Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 im my experience they give the tests and do the checks before the job offer happens. but then again the way the economy is in the US i think these companies make things up as they go along. I agree with you. Unless the job is a physically demanding possition, such as a lot of running or something, wouldnt this be deemed as disrimination? I mean, if you apply for a possition as a computer programmer for example but are very unfit, then how dies it effect the standard of your work? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/928206-pre-employment-fitness-tests/page/2/#findComment-593017842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey13 Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 ... im not sure what the fitness test involves. ..... I think that is the problem there. Are you sure it is a overall physical fitness test and not a fitness to work test? I.E a test that you can actually do the job you are being hired to do. So you may just have to perform the tasks you will be required to do. Did they ask you to wear sports clothing? That would be an indicator. Couldn't have you turning up in heavy boots and then say to you "5k on the treadmill now!" Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/928206-pre-employment-fitness-tests/page/2/#findComment-593017862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted August 12, 2010 Author Share Posted August 12, 2010 I think that is the problem there. Are you sure it is a overall physical fitness test and not a fitness to work test? I.E a test that you can actually do the job you are being hired to do. So you may just have to perform the tasks you will be required to do. Did they ask you to wear sports clothing? That would be an indicator. Couldn't have you turning up in heavy boots and then say to you "5k on the treadmill now!" yes i have to wear sports clothing and it's going to be a treadmill/stress test. i already passed the drug & background but they are requiring a 2nd drug test now, i have no idea whats going on? my test is friday but im not holding my breath on this gig. i actually have another interview with a different company tomorrow lined up in case. i did tell them it would of been nice to tell me from the get go that this was a conditional job offer. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/928206-pre-employment-fitness-tests/page/2/#findComment-593020426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clotz2000 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 yes i have to wear sports clothing and it's going to be a treadmill/stress test. i already passed the drug & background but they are requiring a 2nd drug test now, i have no idea whats going on? my test is friday but im not holding my breath on this gig. i actually have another interview with a different company tomorrow lined up in case. i did tell them it would of been nice to tell me from the get go that this was a conditional job offer. A 2nd Drug Test!! Yeah, I think that place is making it up as they go along, that's crazy. I actually hope you get that other job, this one just doesn't sound right :no: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/928206-pre-employment-fitness-tests/page/2/#findComment-593020882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted August 12, 2010 Author Share Posted August 12, 2010 A 2nd Drug Test!! Yeah, I think that place is making it up as they go along, that's crazy. I actually hope you get that other job, this one just doesn't sound right :no: yeah my gut is telling me there might be issues with the company. that's the last thing i need right now. ive NEVER heard of a stress test for a maintenance tech position. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/928206-pre-employment-fitness-tests/page/2/#findComment-593022258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted August 12, 2010 MVC Share Posted August 12, 2010 "they give the tests and do the checks before the job offer happens" This not always the case, and waiting until you have accepted the offer saves the company money. Why should the company fork over the costs of doing the tests, just so you can say nah I found something better, etc. So you look good on paper, you do good on interview - whoever you going to work for says yeah lets hire him.. Why should they pay for tests until your ok with the actual offer and salary, etc. I would see it as a cost cutting measure on the companies part - nothing more. Especially a large company that does a lot of hiring, maybe they have a large turnover rate for whatever reason? If you forking over the costs of tests before the candidate accepts -- they could be throwing money away. If they wait til after, and then you fail - atleast it was money well spent. If they spend the money before, and you turn it down - then it was money down the drain. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/928206-pre-employment-fitness-tests/page/2/#findComment-593022718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted August 13, 2010 Author Share Posted August 13, 2010 "they give the tests and do the checks before the job offer happens" This not always the case, and waiting until you have accepted the offer saves the company money. Why should the company fork over the costs of doing the tests, just so you can say nah I found something better, etc. So you look good on paper, you do good on interview - whoever you going to work for says yeah lets hire him.. Why should they pay for tests until your ok with the actual offer and salary, etc. I would see it as a cost cutting measure on the companies part - nothing more. Especially a large company that does a lot of hiring, maybe they have a large turnover rate for whatever reason? If you forking over the costs of tests before the candidate accepts -- they could be throwing money away. If they wait til after, and then you fail - atleast it was money well spent. If they spend the money before, and you turn it down - then it was money down the drain. i see where your coming from and yes ive heard this company has a huge turn over rate. actually ive been feeling pretty ill today and tonight so im going to reschedule the fitness test for next week. i don't need any negative results and they told me if im ill that the test cannot be performed. plus i do have another job offer that came through today that im considering. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/928206-pre-employment-fitness-tests/page/2/#findComment-593024624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted August 13, 2010 Author Share Posted August 13, 2010 so i went this morning and they had me take the test even though i was a bit ill. surprisingly i passed and i start on monday. now the hard part comes...me getting used to going to bed early and getting up early! :pinch: btw the test was pointless IMO but i did have a hot asain chick perform the exam! :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/928206-pre-employment-fitness-tests/page/2/#findComment-593026278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey13 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Well done. :D Kept your mouth shut about remaking Back to the Future and Ghostbusters then. Talk like that could have cost you the job. :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/928206-pre-employment-fitness-tests/page/2/#findComment-593026292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted August 13, 2010 Author Share Posted August 13, 2010 Well done. :D Kept your mouth shut about remaking Back to the Future and Ghostbusters then. Talk like that could have cost you the job. :p it will happen in time...just saying! :whistle: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/928206-pre-employment-fitness-tests/page/2/#findComment-593026316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted August 13, 2010 Veteran Share Posted August 13, 2010 we can thank obama for this. they could deny me solely based on me smoking. that's why im worried ya know. and they wonder why soo many people are on unemployment for years. i know ill pass the background & drug part but the fitness test i have no clue. Why can we thank Obama for that? my company held smokers lower (since we deal with health insurance, we took that as a big no no) and I know other companies that did stuff like that back in 2004, so that'd be under Bush, so once again, how's this Obama's fault? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/928206-pre-employment-fitness-tests/page/2/#findComment-593026324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey13 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 it will happen in time...just saying! :whistle: You said you wanted it to happen. It's because of people like you that we had Steve Martin being Inspector Clouseau in the shameful and disgusting remake of The Pink Panther. :x Have you no shame! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/928206-pre-employment-fitness-tests/page/2/#findComment-593026344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted August 13, 2010 Author Share Posted August 13, 2010 You said you wanted it to happen. It's because of people like you that we had Steve Martin being Inspector Clouseau in the shameful and disgusting remake of The Pink Panther. :x Have you no shame! jesus man...relax! Why can we thank Obama for that? maybe because he is the worst president in history next to the bushes. your lucky if a company even offers heath care or dental anymore. everybody is out to save a buck! the wage im going to make at this job is lower than i made 11 years ago. that's sad. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/928206-pre-employment-fitness-tests/page/2/#findComment-593026830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted August 13, 2010 Veteran Share Posted August 13, 2010 jesus man...relax! maybe because he is the worst president in history next to the bushes. your lucky if a company even offers heath care or dental anymore. everybody is out to save a buck! the wage im going to make at this job is lower than i made 11 years ago. that's sad. I must be living on the wrong side of the country because up here almost every employer offers it, heck we write most of their benefit plans here... We don't see any trend in our area of companies getting rid of health plans Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/928206-pre-employment-fitness-tests/page/2/#findComment-593026884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamawesomewicked Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 I must be living on the wrong side of the country because up here almost every employer offers it, heck we write most of their benefit plans here... We don't see any trend in our area of companies getting rid of health plans People just wanna bitch and complain about Obama. That's really all there is to it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/928206-pre-employment-fitness-tests/page/2/#findComment-593026908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted August 13, 2010 Author Share Posted August 13, 2010 People just wanna bitch and complain about Obama. That's really all there is to it. try to find a job in michigan that offers decent medical if any + a good wage above 10 an hour. oh that's right...you cannot because people with bachelors degrees are even having to apply at burger king. i lucked out becuase my new company does offer full medical + dental but the wage sorta sucks. so there is a trade off. but at least it's a job for now! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/928206-pre-employment-fitness-tests/page/2/#findComment-593027052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey13 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 jesus man...relax! I'm only joking/ranting. Although I do have a theory that there is some Hollywood exec that is specifically out to ruin everything from my childhood. If I thought that any of these remakes were an honest improvement or a different take on a classic tale/universe then I'd be OK, but I think that it's all done to use an existing name to shift a load of lunch boxes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/928206-pre-employment-fitness-tests/page/2/#findComment-593035304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mokthraka Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 I work at a fastfood place, we offer good health insurance as long as you work more then 20 hours a week. not sure how you can say its hard to find a company that offers it Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/928206-pre-employment-fitness-tests/page/2/#findComment-593038094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted August 30, 2010 Author Share Posted August 30, 2010 so im on my 2nd week of work and i love the job soo far. one horrid thing i have found out is how high they charge for health insurance. for me, my wife & kids they want $711 a month... what a freaking joke. that's over $100 more than i pay for rent. so much for that universal health care. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/928206-pre-employment-fitness-tests/page/2/#findComment-593088780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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