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I'm glad you got it sorted! (Y)

That makes two of us! :laugh:

I saw a whole lot of very similar responses to the ones you gave when I was Googl'ing the issue, and I really thought to myself how crappy it was that I now had an issue with my Ram after being so excited about installing the cards. I really think for some reason my motherboard just bugged out so to speak, as it really seems like resetting the ram in different slots was all it took. Very strange indeed, but glad it was just as simple as that after-all. Thanks again though, much appreciated for your super fast, and very helpful and thorough, response. (Y)

Okay, 3 AM, and I am beyond exhausted, I have steam downloading Metro 2033, the Kane And Lynch 2 Demo, and I grabbed the Lost Planet 2 Benchmark from Guru3D, so plan on checking them all out tomorrow.

What is the deal with 3D Mark these days? Is it still called that? :laugh: I honestly have not benchmarked a GPU in years, so wondering what the best app to do that is? TIA to anyone can answer, and this is what happens when one is bored and restarting their computer multiple times to make sure everything is okay...

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I definitely need some sleep. :blink::wacko::rofl:

Thanks again all. :yes:

I hate you so much Larry.

Im holding out for a DUAL GPU fermi. I dont care how long it takes, I would rather get a Dual Card then SLI because im just a "single' card kind of a person.

But definitely if I SLI'd, these would be on that list. I have been looking at the SLI articles, and the tomshardware one you posted also sold me on it too.

I hate you so much Larry.

Im holding out for a DUAL GPU fermi. I dont care how long it takes, I would rather get a Dual Card then SLI because im just a "single' card kind of a person.

But definitely if I SLI'd, these would be on that list. I have been looking at the SLI articles, and the tomshardware one you posted also sold me on it too.

Haven't people told you.. The more the better? :laugh:

But yeah Larry, it's been a quite of Journey :D. I would really think that you were so excited you couldn't sleep! Cause that's what would've happend to me :laugh: All in all, awesomeness! (Y).

The Unigine Heaven benchmark is pretty dam good too, and it will stress out your cards lol

Cool, will give that a whirl.

Haven't people told you.. The more the better? :laugh:

But yeah Larry, it's been a quite of Journey :D. I would really think that you were so excited you couldn't sleep! Cause that's what would've happend to me :laugh: All in all, awesomeness! (Y).

Yeah man, it indeed has been a Journey. :laugh: I am glad it is over, although I am still exhausted LOL

looks very sexy man.

you'll have to load up on all the latest dx11 benches and compare notes with me.

stone giant

heaven 2.1

lost planet

what cpu do you have feeding those bad boys? is it OCed? i have the same mobo(758?)

Will do. (Y)

Just a 920. I OC it from time to time, but right now just on stock. Have a feeling I will OC it again much sooner than later. But thanks for the names of the DX11 benchies, I already have Lost Planet 2 one but will grab the other 2 when I can.

If video cards get any bigger you will one day be buying external cards that come in thier own tower and connect to the back of your pc tower.

These cards are actually small compared to my last card. :laugh: Which speaking of...

I probably will start a thread in Neobay, but it looks like now I might have an XFX 285 GTX for sale. It is in great condtion, I never OC'd it, and it has the double lifetime warranty so whomever picks it up you get the full warranty. I am thinking it would be ideal for someone who already has one GTX 285, can SLi them out, but it also is a great single card, I never had a single complaint when using it, in fact I loved it, I just wanted to make the jump to DX11, etc. So if anyone is possibly interested in purchasing that GTX 285, PM me, like I said though will probably start a thread on Neobay as well, just leaving for vacation in a week so might wait until I get back.

If video cards get any bigger you will one day be buying external cards that come in thier own tower and connect to the back of your pc tower.

the 460 is actually really small compared to other higher end video cards, or so it seemed last time i payed attention to comparison pics with one of them side by side a 480 or 5870 or even a 5970.

then again looks at the 5970 ares. that thing is monstrous.

Will do. (Y)

Just a 920. I OC it from time to time, but right now just on stock. Have a feeling I will OC it again much sooner than later. But thanks for the names of the DX11 benchies, I already have Lost Planet 2 one but will grab the other 2 when I can.

sweet sounds like we have nearly identical rigs except for the video cards.

I came to this thread for boobies. But I'm pleased anyway.

I totally missed this response. :laugh: I take that as a compliment coming from you.

Very nice Larry, sweet setup you have (Y)

Thank you sir. I am happy with it so far.

the 460 is actually really small compared to other higher end video cards, or so it seemed last time i payed attention to comparison pics with one of them side by side a 480 or 5870 or even a 5970.

then again looks at the 5970 ares. that thing is monstrous.

sweet sounds like we have nearly identical rigs except for the video cards.

Cool. Do you OC your CPU?

And yeah, I was really actually quite surprised by how small the cards are. One of the reasons I went with EVGA was since it is my motherboard, I figured the cards HAD to fit in SLI. I guess it is silly, and all cards would, but I figured I would just be super safe about it. But I have a ton of room, especially since like I said I actually took out the Creative XiFi late last night. So far I like what I am hearing from the onboard Realtek, so may very well just stick with it. Will see.

no my system is at stock for the time being.

i'll post my bench mark screens later(well for heaven) i get about 72fps default setting 1920x1080 in stonegiant and i'll have to look at what i got from lost planet again.

Yeah, that Lost Planet benchmark is a BEAST. :laugh: At 1980 x 1020, default settings I averaged 29.something FPS. When I set AA to 8X and DX11 to High, I averaged 27. something. So not much of a difference at all.

Wow, those are nice :D

Your computer is very clean and tidy inside, good job (Y)

Thanks. (Y) I am pretty obsessed with getting nice clean cabling, I would say I probably spend more time with the cables then I do installing the components. Actually I know for sure I do, which leads me to..

Off topic: What case is that?

The cards are killer though. :woot:

Thanks as well. (Y) It is a Thermaltake Speedo Advance. Crazy big, crazy heavy, but the CMS (Cable Management System) is absolutely amazing, the air flow is superb, I just cannot speak enough about how much I like the case. :yes:

you got evga 460's right? see if there is an "sli enhancement patch" from evga. join their fb fan page and check the post history.

in the lost planet bench i got 64fps, rank a. in dx11 mode, 1920x1080 all settings default. test a. i hit 120fps at the part the bench stares at the wall for like 20 sec for no good reason.

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the reason it's windowed is because the guy i was benching with's 5870 crashes in fullscreen in heaven 2.1 XD and don't mind it detecting my 8800, it's just the ppu but has always shown up that way in every version of heaven.

you got evga 460's right? see if there is an "sli enhancement patch" from evga. join their fb fan page and check the post history.

in the lost planet bench i got 64fps, rank a. in dx11 mode, 1920x1080 all settings default. test a. i hit 120fps at the part the bench stares at the wall for like 20 sec for no good reason.

the reason it's windowed is because the guy i was benching with's 5870 crashes in fullscreen in heaven 2.1 XD and don't mind it detecting my 8800, it's just the ppu but has always shown up that way in every version of heaven.

Very Good call. (Y) Not only do they have a enhancement patch that enables SLi for Lost Planet 2, but for Kane and Lynch 2 as well. They also have performance boost 1.1 for my cards. :yes:

I will go do that and see what is up.

I thought it was a little strange, as the lost planet benchmark was just reporting I had 1 460, but I thought maybe that was normal.

Thanks again for the info, and I will also grab those two other benchmarks app soon too. (Y)

Very Good call. (Y) Not only do they have a enhancement patch that enables SLi for Lost Planet 2, but for Kane and Lynch 2 as well. They also have performance boost 1.1 for my cards. :yes:

I will go do that and see what is up.

I thought it was a little strange, as the lost planet benchmark was just reporting I had 1 460, but I thought maybe that was normal.

Thanks again for the info, and I will also grab those two other benchmarks app soon too. (Y)

word of warning wthe fpb, some people have been having issues with it, such as bsods, etc. not sure what the factors are, but for you withte sc cards it will only unlock fanspeed to 100%(from 80%)

and evga is definitely full of surprises.

So what motherboard do you have there?

Are they both running in full PCI-X X16?

if he has the 758(liek mine) one is 16x, one is 8x, which with these cards should not affect performance at all.

if he has the 758(liek mine) one is 16x, one is 8x, which with these cards should not affect performance at all.

Just out of interest, if one of the ports was running in X2, would he notice performance loss then?

@treemonster how are you able to run dx11 tests on an 8800 which is not a dx11 card? Or does it default to dx10/dx9?

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Soz didnt read it all, you have a 5870? Didn't know you could have an ati with nvidia in same rig, I thought they didnt play well together?

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Just out of interest, if one of the ports was running in X2, would he notice performance loss then?

most likely imho, but i've never seen this and if you filled up all slots on this mobo, say hyptothetically if it were running usb and sata 3(which reduces pcie lane speeds) he would not reach that low.

perosnally speaking about this mobo, the only and very minor compalit i have(which iirc i could fix easily) is the added boot time due to teh jmicron sata controllers looking for drives. it has the best bipos i'v ever seen out of the box. and lots of forum support behind it. ihave a little story about my building with this mobo but it embarrassing and tldr so i'll refrain from telling it.

@treemonster how are you able to run dx11 tests on an 8800 which is not a dx11 card? Or does it default to dx10/dx9?

it shopws up in heaven as my 8800 for some strange reason.

i do have an 8800 in my system, as a ppu, but obviously i could not run on those settings with it if it were my main gpu. nor would i get those results if it were that way.

i have a 480. can screenshot the gpu-z again if needed. :)

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