Official Xbox 360 vs. The World

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treemonster

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meh inputting my code for alan wake into xbox.com brought back an unspecific error. so i went to their support forums only to find several pages of threads from the last 2 days about issues, including one with people being unable to get past 28% in downloading alan wake. well it ended up working fine for me after putting in my code through my xbox(it didn't work any other way). it just took forever and i had to wait to do anything else as the other updates that would've been done in 30s were queued up after alan wake. a game this size would've taken an hour to download on steam. over xbl it took 5 hours.

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Hedon

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a game this size would've taken an hour to download on steam. over xbl it took 5 hours.

That isn't the norm on XBL. Alan Wake downloaded in about 40 minutes for me, and worked on the first try. Actually, I never had any problems downloading the Games on Demand titles, except Fable 2 (which wasn't supposed to be a free download).

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treemonster if your PC pooped on your desk you'd say it's chocolate mousse, so i'll take what you tell us with a grain of salt :laugh:

my experience has been the opposite. stuff on Steam takes forever to download, but Guardian of Light (around 2GB) on 360 took like two hours. it was literally one gaming session and it finished in the background. i don't take your claims of 7GB games downloading off Steam in an hour seriously, forgive me...unless you're Gabe or live in his house. i wanted to tell you that the best way to download Wake expansions is from the game menu, not by redeeming codes off of the marketplace, but never mind, you already solved this.

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the slowest i've seen a download on steam in the last 3 -5 years is 1.1mbps for me2 and that took a couple hours during the xmas rush. the only thing that downloads faster on pc is extremely well seeded torrents of anime movies which for bluray ripped fansubs of say evangelion 2.22 takes maybe half an hour. my internet is fast and it's not just steam. during the aion PTS's i made fun of some friends because it took me like 45 minutes to download the aion client through the ncsoft downloader. that's like 14gb. when i want to play a game on my pc and it's not installed i start the download at 2pm and by 4pm it's always completely set up and ready to go including manual installs of DLC when necessary.

i also don't tend ot have the problems others do and when i do have issues with my pc the'yre more minor for the same problems as others. the whole wow bsod thing people were getting them every 10 minutes, i was getting them once a week.

how am i supposed to download a download only game i only have a code for and no disc from anywhere other than teh redeem code option in xbox dashboard which is so cleverly hidden away? code did not work in xbox.com. i started the download before i started drinking that night and it finished near the end of the night. maybe it had more to do with the xbox s having wireless g and not wireless n.

anyways, i know you warned me about he xbox's media center capabilties but i am a t a brick wall where it won't play anything other than SD video. it's no surprise that MCE is still trash but everything i've tried onyl causes me to have to reinstall and set everything back up on my pc over again. files that played in wmp12 before i installed a codec pack fail to play on my xbox even with tversisty, and ps3media server just ****ed everything up. MCE won't even play files that play on in wmp12 on my pc, but the library takes hours to load on the xbox in MCE. so i'm stuck with downgrading my lirbary to SD and not watching anime on my tv.

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Don't use MCE, just share your libraries through WMP, and then use the My Videos or My Music menus on the 360. Works much better. I got the MCE working, once, but it was pretty atrocious. That, and the sharing works on my Macs, too. I use a 360 as my main entertainment hub, so it definitely works.

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the slowest i've seen a download on steam in the last 3 -5 years is 1.1mbps for me2

My slowest was about 256kb on the day they released Portal for free. I have a 60mb service.

how am i supposed to download a download only game i only have a code for and no disc from anywhere other than teh redeem code option in xbox dashboard which is so cleverly hidden away? code did not work in xbox.com. i started the download before i started drinking that night and it finished near the end of the night. maybe it had more to do with the xbox s having wireless g and not wireless n.

Redeem code is in multiple places. If the developer puts it in the game, it's in a game menu. However, you can consistently find it by: Guide Button > Markeplace > Redeem Code. As for your wireless issue, you really should be running wired. It's faster, more stable and more secure. But if you insist on wireless, then you should maybe look at your settings to see why you are only at G. The Xbox 360 S (and the Wifi adapter for the old Xbox 360) are both at N.

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dude hate to say i told you so re: the media center capabilities...still not there. lightyears behind even the most basic HTPC.

forgot you got Wake from Games on Demand, sorry, but the expansions you can download from the game menu, don't go to the marketplace for those. it's a known glitch, works best from the game menu. please believe me.

and yes, you're very lucky my friend, PCs love you. during the Xmas sale i was red in the face less from drinking and more from looking at stuff coming off Steam at 34KB/s. yes, it wasn't my imagination, just go to the Steam holiday sales thread and you'll see plenty people had those problems. from now on i will just assume you're Gabe to make things easier. i think in one of the emails he once sent me when i was complaining about the first Half Life crashing he also had a thing for "teh" instead of "the". so you must be him!

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Hedon

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Don't use MCE, just share your libraries through WMP, and then use the My Videos or My Music menus on the 360. Works much better. I got the MCE working, once, but it was pretty atrocious. That, and the sharing works on my Macs, too. I use a 360 as my main entertainment hub, so it definitely works.

Yup, same here. I use connect360 from Nullriver (and mediaconnect for PS3 from nullriver) for all my Mac streaming.

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treemonster

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the xbox only saw my g wireless network. my router also has n which my mom's netbook sees just fine, in addition to the g network.

it was a bitch finding the redeem code option in the dashboard, since the instructions on the voucher say something entirely different. i literally had to go through every single menu to find it.

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Hedon

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the xbox only saw my g wireless network. my router also has n which my mom's netbook sees just fine, in addition to the g network.

Well, it does N no problem, so I would take a look at your settings.

it was a bitch finding the redeem code option in the dashboard, since the instructions on the voucher say something entirely different. i literally had to go through every single menu to find it.

Now you know how easy it is ;) I redeem mine 50/50 on Xbox.com and on Xbox itself. Works every time.

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treemonster

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Don't use MCE, just share your libraries through WMP, and then use the My Videos or My Music menus on the 360. Works much better. I got the MCE working, once, but it was pretty atrocious. That, and the sharing works on my Macs, too. I use a 360 as my main entertainment hub, so it definitely works.

that method works for even less files than tversity. i'm pretty much tot eh point where i've realized the only way to get HD media is through netflix or encoding future files to wmv(i have some 720p videos in this format and they all work)

dude hate to say i told you so re: the media center capabilities...still not there. lightyears behind even the most basic HTPC.

forgot you got Wake from Games on Demand, sorry, but the expansions you can download from the game menu, don't go to the marketplace for those. it's a known glitch, works best from the game menu. please believe me.

and yes, you're very lucky my friend, PCs love you. during the Xmas sale i was red in the face less from drinking and more from looking at stuff coming off Steam at 34KB/s. yes, it wasn't my imagination, just go to the Steam holiday sales thread and you'll see plenty people had those problems. from now on i will just assume you're Gabe to make things easier. i think in one of the emails he once sent me when i was complaining about the first Half Life crashing he also had a thing for "teh" instead of "the". so you must be him!

meh iwas expecting these slow speeds from steam during the holiday sale and yeah it was slower than normal, but nothing too bad.

as for me being gabe, i'm not nearly that fat and i'm usually on time when i make appointments. :laugh:

Well, it does N no problem, so I would take a look at your settings.

Now you know how easy it is ;) I redeem mine 50/50 on Xbox.com and on Xbox itself. Works every time.

i'll double check it later tonight.

and i'll try redeeming my points code on xbox.com. for xbl gold i didn't even bother i just input it from my xbox.

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the xbox only saw my g wireless network. my router also has n which my mom's netbook sees just fine, in addition to the g network.

it was a bitch finding the redeem code option in the dashboard, since the instructions on the voucher say something entirely different. i literally had to go through every single menu to find it.

is your N network 2.4 or 5 Ghz ? nevermind then, just noticed you had it on N.

Well, it does N no problem, so I would take a look at your settings.

Now you know how easy it is ;) I redeem mine 50/50 on Xbox.com and on Xbox itself. Works every time.

The original white one with one antenna only does G, but the new one with two shoudl do N, not sure about 5Ghz though.

that method works for even less files than tversity. i'm pretty much tot eh point where i've realized the only way to get HD media is through netflix or encoding future files to wmv(i have some 720p videos in this format and they all work)

there are multiple ways to stream HD movies to the 360. The easiest is TVersity or PS3MediaServer. though in my experience it needs to be set to always transcode since, even though it shouldn't need to, remuxing should be enough on 90% of files.

However, if you use MCE and with the right stuff installed on the PC, you can play all files on the 360 through MCE extender without remuxing or transcoding.

At my GF's we just use PS3MS thugh for simplicity, and at home I have a HTPC with a TV tuner and all so my 360 don't do a lot of media duty.

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treemonster

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remuxing does nothing for any of the files that won't play. even though they are on codecs that should play on the xbox when using the correct container.

none of these files play in MCE on the PC itself, even with the correct codecs installed, adn they play under wmp12. MCE on xbox sits at a message that it's looking for files to add to the library or something for an hour until i give up and switch back to trying something new with the other ways of doing things. i'll note MCE sees my relatively huge music library just fine.

i might try to set files to always transcode in tversity. installing ps3mediaserver just screwed everything up and i needed to reinstall almost everything.

i'll also note, as much as i am being annoyed by this stuff, getting streaming to work at all on this xbox is about 100x easier than it was on my last xbox about 3 years ago through windows vista.

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HawkMan

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There are guides that tell you what codecs and how to install them to make MCE play everything, I think someone did on these forums in fact to. I believe you needed special codec packs that made MCE recognize the files.

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The reasons why I prefer the 360 is the amount of exclusive games that Microsoft is pushing - Games such as Lost Odyssey, Fable 3 and Alan Wake appeal to me but personally I feel that since Kinect is out, Microsoft is pushing for Kinect exclusive games like that Panzer Dragoon sequel, Steel Battalion, etc.. This year imo, besides multiplats, there are not many exclusive non-kinect focused game that interest me; Gears 3 doesn't interest me along with Codename Kingdoms... Only Forza 4 I'm looking forward to this year. Like Audio says the price of an arcade 360 convinced me to buy one. I'll probably have the worst LIVE experience ever being called all sorts of names online so that's why I only play with those on my friend's list now :(

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treemonster

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There are guides that tell you what codecs and how to install them to make MCE play everything, I think someone did on these forums in fact to. I believe you needed special codec packs that made MCE recognize the files.

i'll have to dig deeper then. the thread on the first page just says that MCE should play w/e plays in windows and not much else. alot of talk of muxing and containers and so on. so far i've tried pretty much everything in that thread and failed to get these files playing on the xbox.

alot of the guides on google i've found for setting up streaming for win7 and xbox is from win7 beta, and are obviously out of date.

special codec packs still doesn't solve my problem of MCE on the xbox taking forever to find my video library. maybe i'll start it up early today and just let it run all day.

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threetonesun

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special codec packs still doesn't solve my problem of MCE on the xbox taking forever to find my video library. maybe i'll start it up early today and just let it run all day.

It should, after indexing them, run at normal speed. It takes a inordinate amount of time to index things though.

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treemonster

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well i figured out what was wrong with MCE taking so long to index everything. i basically pressed random buttons until a menu appeared that i caould actually add folders to the library it was trying search and then instantly all the files in those folders appeared.

googling for MCE and xbox and windows 7 codecs i found a few codec packs and tried a coupl euntil i found one called windows7 codec pack v2.7.0 that got the files playing in both MCE on windows and on xbox.

unfortunately without the softsubs playing so now i am on an adventure to find out how to get the soft subs working on the xbox.

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