It's becoming obvious that Chrome will beat Firefox and become #2


Do you think Chrome/Chromium will become the #2 browser, making Firefox #3?   

286 members have voted

  1. 1. Do you think Chrome/Chromium will become the #2 browser, making Firefox #3?

    • Yes, I think Chrome will beat Firefox. Firefox will someday be used less than Chrome.
      170
    • No, I think Chrome will never beat Firefox. Firefox will always be used more than Chrome.
      116


Recommended Posts

Probably the biggest reason is that it's from Google, it's fast and Joe Average gets tired of using the same software and is always looking for something new.

I used to like Chrome thinking Google will catchup up and add essential features but it's still far too basic for my taste. You cant even do a "Find on this page" with "whole word only" or "match case". Or play a sound when a download finishes. Or save as MHT. Worse than that, Chrome has heavily influenced Safari and IE9. IE9 has a great rendering engine, kudos to Microsoft for that but the non-customizable dumbed down UI completely sucks. IE9 has the worse UI of all browsers and it's because of Chrome-envy. For those who don't want their browser oversimplified and *prefer* customizability, Firefox remains the best choice. Chrome's extensions aren't as powerful or abundant as Firefox's. if you don't overload FF with extensions, it's reasonably fast and problem free for me. I was a crazy IE loyalist until IE8 but IE9 simply drives me away. IE with version 9 is now a grandma browser.

Average Joes don't change their default browser - why do you think the Browser Ballot exists?

No, they do not. They get hidden. Chrome doesn't offer the ability to block either downloads or requests made within flash objects. It has nothing to do with someone's PC, nor with addon developers, it has to do with the fact that Chrome simply doesn't allow that.

Sigh. Here, I'll give it one last shot.

As of Version 2.0 the add-on has stopped downloading resources deemed as advertisements as Adblock Plus for Mozilla Firefox does.

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdBlock_(Chrome)

The same claim is repeated on the extension homepage. It's open source, so feel free to check the source code. Or try looking in your browser cache for ads that were supposedly downloaded but only hidden, at least according to you.

And if the facts still won't get through to you... well, I tried.

2011 is Firefox's year.

I don't think it is somehow. I have used Firefox 4, and even with 3D rendering enabled, it is still really slow.

No, that's why it won't beat Firefox, at least among people who know better. Just works? DownThemAll doesn't 'just work' on it, so there is no way I'll use it as my primary browser. AdBlock Plus doesn't 'just work' on it like on Firefox, so there's another reason. It's more than just a browser that just works, most people want the ability to customize it and be able to do things easier. With literally thousands of add-ons, you can do that with Firefox. Chrome will never be that way, to say nothing of different themes like Firefox has. Every time a new version of Chrome is released I try it out for a week or so, but consistently I go back to Firefox.

Nobody that I have introduced to Chrome gives a crap about those things, they have all really liked using it.

IE9 opens fastest by FAR on Windows.

Not for me it doesn't, and my computer is far from slow

Safari is #1 :yes:

:whistle:

Safari may be reasonable on OSX, but on Windows it's pure garbage.

Sigh. Here, I'll give it one last shot.

As of Version 2.0 the add-on has stopped downloading resources deemed as advertisements as Adblock Plus for Mozilla Firefox does.

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdBlock_(Chrome)

It's open source, so feel free to check the source code.

blockonload != blocking of requests

Or try looking in your browser cache for ads that were supposedly downloaded but only hidden, at least according to you.

You can't check that that way as Chrome doesn't save cache normally but rather saves it as random gibberish. You're free to check your Chrome's cache folder.

The same claim is repeated on the extension homepage.

And somewhere in the FAQ it's also pointed out that blocking within flash doesn't really work because Chrome hasn't implemented it yet. But hey, you're doing a good job at superficial reading (Y)

You do understand that the addon author tries to present the addon it the best possible light? Touting it as the only true adblocker for Chrome ever since it was created... even when it was nowhere close to truth.

Because Chrome's extensions are nowhere close to having the same amount of functionality that Firefox extensions have. Even the most important one, Adblock Plus, doesn't work properly because Google doesn't want it to, otherwise they'd be losing out a lot of money if people managed to completely and successfully block out their ads.

Until Chrome allows me to have a fully functional Adblock Plus, BetterPrivacy and GoogleSharing, I won't be using it. Oh and yeah, it'd be useful to give people the ability to turn off history and cache, too.

Well, in fairness things are improving. You now have the option of Ghostery, NotScript and Adblock Plus (beta). There are limitations, however. What Chrome does have working for it at the moment is Webkit. It is simply a better solution for rendering content. As for a download manager (as mentioned in the post prior to this) that is a real problem. Google has a horrible default download manager. The addons do very little to change this. If, however, you use an external solution, there isn't much of an issue.

As for privacy, if incognito mode is not your answer, I won't ask what you are doing that you are so concerned about privacy, but you might want to consider either portable FF or Chrome and run it in a encrypted partition. This way no one will ever know what sites you visit and the files you download. At least not from the contents of your computer.

I know people who use it just because it came with iTunes and it boggles my mind as to how they made it their default browser.

For them it was probably either a choice of IE8 or Safari. They probably discovered it simply looking around. They probably think it is a better solution than IE8. It is doubtful they even known about IE9 beta, FF or Chrome.

Stupid poll is stupid. :yes:

C'mon I mean really? Only two options are basically I'm in bed with Chrome or I'm divorcing chrome and marrying firefox? Really.

Aside that, both are good and I wish both stay around. I'm concerned that firefox will fall on the wayside due to google cutting there funding.

Firefox came out long before alternate browsers were considered viable, you can thank firefox for people even accepting anything other than IE.

Whether it over takes it or not I don't know.

I use Chrome, but this is true. We can thank Mozilla for kicking IE in the pants.

Yeah, sorry about the source. I knew the usage trends were that so I used it. Here's another source that's worldwide. From their site:

What methodology is used to calculate the market share statistics?

StatCounter is a web analytics service. As of 1 June 2010, our tracking code is installed on more than 3 million sites globally. (These sites cover various activities and geographic locations.) Every month, we record billions of hits to these sites. For each hit, we analyse the browser/operating system used and we establish if the hit is from a mobile device. For our search engine stats, we analyze every hit referred by a search engine. For our social media stats, we analyze every hit referred by a social media site. We summarize all this data and this is how we get our Global Stats information.

We do not manipulate the data in any way. We do not collate it with any other information sources. No artificial weightings are used. We simply publish the data as we record it.

In other words we calculate our Global Stats on the basis of more than 15 billion hits per month, by people from all over the world onto our 3 million+ member sites.

By collating our data in this way, we track the activity of third party visitors to our member websites. We do not calculate our stats based on the activity of our members. This helps to minimise bias in the data and ensures a random sample is achieved.

In May 2010, our global sample consisted of 16.3 billion hits (US: 4.0 billion); 2.1 billion of these were search engine referrals (US: 532 million); 109 million of these were social media referrals (US: 51 million).

post-2250-0-38169500-1295102983.jpg

I use remote desktop applications all day everyday, to support my clients.

FireFox with remote access websites such as LogMeIn work really well. You can copy / paste from host PC to remote PC and remote to host. Plus on FireFox logmein will remember a remote computers username if you have previously connected to it before.

Chrome doesn't.

Before im flamed, i know its a simple feature and will probably be added to Chrome in time, but for the time being FireFox makes my life easier :)

From what I'm getting out of it, Google dropped support for a codec that has been pretty much adopted everywhere in favor of some inferior, no name, open source codec, all in the name of "open source". But, they still left Flash in too. This move has been universally panned by everyone who lays eyes on the news, no doubt bad news for Google, as many have reported to uninstalling the browser.

Most think it's a stab at Apple, but whatever the case, Google is hurting users here and set back HTML5 adoption.

source please ???? and reported where????? or is it just what you are planning to do?? browser that support this codec is only IE

well i tried to use chrome

despite it's speed i went back to Firefox as i didn't like it's UI despite it's too simple

Firefox 4 have a lot of speed up in it's update and if it can keep that up Chrome will never pass it

and chrome takes most of the IE users it take a fewer user from Firefox so both of them are going up

this year will be the Browser War Year :woot:

IE 9 , Firefox 4 , Chrome 9 and 10 soon , Opera 11

whatever happens every Browser will evolve and i would be happy

no FF is not going up at all if you look at any stat website that shows that FF is very slowly declining

http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=1

No, they do not. They get hidden. Chrome doesn't offer the ability to block either downloads or requests made within flash objects. It has nothing to do with someone's PC, nor with addon developers, it has to do with the fact that Chrome simply doesn't allow that.

no it does block contents in flash. here is the proof

post-312866-0-51046100-1295103974.jpg

Because Chrome's extensions are nowhere close to having the same amount of functionality that Firefox extensions have. Even the most important one, Adblock Plus, doesn't work properly because Google doesn't want it to, otherwise they'd be losing out a lot of money if people managed to completely and successfully block out their ads.

Until Chrome allows me to have a fully functional Adblock Plus, BetterPrivacy and GoogleSharing, I won't be using it. Oh and yeah, it'd be useful to give people the ability to turn off history and cache, too.

Not all of us want a gimped and "blocked" view of the internet and don't "have" to have all that added junk just to feel "safe", I don't even use an ad blocker anymore, just added more problems than it "fixed", just browse like normal

  • Like 1

Among techies Fx will always win, cause its power

Among mom and pop, and average PC users, Chrome probably cause its fast and light and runs great on their ancient pc's

Not true, I am a tech and I can't stand Firefox. It may be very extendable but it doesn't seem to be overly well designed to me.

I dont understand the drop of codec being a big deal

for now

IE6-IE8 ~55% no support

Firefox ~25% no support

Chrome ~10% no support

Opera ~3% no support

IE9 0.09% support

Safari ~5% support

when ie9 release the share might go to 5-10%

Chromium Blog, ZDNet, et al.

well i tried to search the article on those website but couldn't find any... Posting a link would be better.

blockonload != blocking of requests

Don't dodge the question. So you agree that ads aren't just hidden, they're blocked from downloading?

You can't check that that way as Chrome doesn't save cache normally but rather saves it as random gibberish. You're free to check your Chrome's cache folder.

Yes you can, you're free to check about:cache.

And somewhere in the FAQ it's also pointed out that blocking within flash doesn't really work because Chrome hasn't implemented it yet. But hey, you're doing a good job at superficial reading (Y)

Actually, it looks like you're right about the Adblock FAQ. I got confused and thought you were talking about ads in Youtube videos, my bad.

You do understand that the addon author tries to present the addon it the best possible light? Touting it as the only true adblocker for Chrome ever since it was created... even when it was nowhere close to truth.

Right, so that's why the developer admits that his extension doesn't block Flash ads, right? Or does your rhetoric apply selectively, and the developer is only lying when he says good things about his extension?

If I was a partner of Google I'd be very wary.

For years they've Firefox and Google supported each other again IE, but in the background Google introduced Chrome and is now product placing it in searchs on google.

Apple had Google CEO as a board director, the first Android OS was like a old samsung/rim OS, then suddenly that transformed into a iOS like product, oops.

Chrome is for the average user who doesn't think outside the box, literally. That probably includes a lot of people here, and that's not necessarily a bad thing, but I think that most users don't give two s**ts about their browsing experience, which will ultimately prevent FF from reaching the #1 spot.

Firefox does what you want it to do. Chrome does what Google wants it to do *cough sift through your data*.

However these are the majority of users on the internet, hence the large departure of IE users to Chrome, and the relatively stable FF population. Firefox has sort of an entry barrier, you need to be willing to invest time into the browser to make it an unbeatable experience.

I love how people say they love Chrome cause it "just works," but I have two Chrome users at work that get the "Oh snap something went wrong screen" on a somewhat regular basis. I'm not saying it crashes any more than any other browser, but it's not the golden boy infallible browser all its users clamor it to be.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • AMD 26.6.2 driver brings FSR 4.1 support to RDNA 3 RX 7000 series graphics cards by Pulasthi Ariyasinghe A new driver is rolling out to Radeon graphics hardware owners, and alongside support for new games, AMD has just made its FSR 4.1 upscaling tech available to an entire generation of its products. Last month, AMD announced it is answering community requests to bring FSR 4.1 to past generations of its Radeon graphics cards. This would be starting with RDNA 3 RX 7000 products. Right on schedule, this is what's rolling out now with the AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 26.6.2 driver containing official support for over 300 games. Following this, AMD is planning to bring out RDNA 2 (RX 6000 series) support for FSR 4.1 sometime in early 2027. As for the games, this Adrenalin 26.6.2 driver is a recommended install for anyone jumping into Ubisoft's upcoming Assassin's Creed Black Flag Resynced remake or id Software's DOOM: The Dark Ages' Revelations expansion. The two fixed issues in this release are these: Intermittent application crash or driver timeout may be observed while playing RoadCraft on Radeon™ RX 7000 series products. Purple screen may be displayed when using an HP Reverb G2 headset with SteamVR on Radeon™ RX 6000 series graphics products. The known issues AMD is still working on are the following: Intermittent application crash or driver timeout may be observed while playing Battlefield 6 on AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370. AMD is actively working on a resolution with the developer to be released as soon as possible. Texture flickering or corruption may appear while playing Battlefield 6 with AMD Record and Stream on some AMD graphics products. AMD FSR Upscaling and AMD FSR Frame Generation may show as inactive in AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition while playing Battlefield 6 when enabled on Radeon™ RX 9000 series graphics products. Failure to install may be observed while installing AI Bundle components in some regions with limited access to HuggingFace and GitHub. Model flickering or rendering failure may be observed in Maxon Cinema 4D and Blender on Radeon RX 7000 series and above graphics products. Users experiencing this issue are recommended to install AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 26.3.1. Intermittent application crash may be observed on some models while running Blender on Radeon RX 7000 and above graphics products. Users experiencing this issue are recommended to install AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 26.3.1. The newly released AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 26.6.2 driver is now available for download from the AMD Software app. Find the official changelog here.
    • How to Do More with Less: Future-Proofing Yourself in an AI-driven Economy —was $28 now FREE by Steven Parker Claim your complimentary copy (worth $28) of "How to Do More with Less: Future-Proofing Yourself in an AI-driven Economy" for free, before the offer ends on June 30. Description In today’s workplace, headlines about artificial intelligence can feel overwhelming. With headlines swinging between promises of utopia and warnings of mass unemployment, for most knowledge workers, the truth feels unclear. In this book, Sharon Gai cuts through the noise. Drawing from real-world examples and global insights, she explains how AI is reshaping the way we work—without hype or fearmongering. Instead of choosing between blind optimism or outright pessimism, she offers a practical, balanced perspective that helps readers make sense of the rapidly evolving AI landscape. You’ll learn how to: Reskill and future-proof your career in the face of AI disruption Identify which parts of your role can be automated, and which require human creativity and judgment Use proven frameworks to evaluate AI’s impact on your work and your organization Apply actionable tips and tools to boost productivity, make smarter decisions, and do more with less Gain clarity as a parent, leader, or professional navigating what this means for the next generation Whether you’re an employee anxious about your future, a parent concerned about your children’s opportunities, or a leader managing a lean team with tight budgets, this book provides the strategies and mindset you need to adapt so you can stop worrying and start preparing. How to download for free Please ensure you read the terms and conditions to claim this offer. Complete and verifiable information is required in order to receive this free offer. If you have previously made use of these offers, you will not need to re-register. Was $28, but is now FREE | Below free offer link expires on June 30. How to Do More with Less: Future-Proofing Yourself in an AI-driven Economy The below offers are also available for free in exchange for your (work) email: The Vibe Coding Playbook: Building Your Tech Business with AI ($35 Value) FREE - Expires 6/23 The Persuasion Engine: How Any Business Can Use AI-Powered Neuromarketing to Understand and Win Customers ($28 Value) FREE - Expires 6/24 How to Do More with Less: Future-Proofing Yourself in an AI-driven Economy ($28 Value) FREE - Expires 6/30 Cloud Security Fundamentals: Building the Foundations for Secure Cloud Platforms ($131.95 Value) FREE - Expires 7/1 The Complete Free AI Learning: Master ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini & More ($21 Value) FREE How to Build an AI Design Workflow with Gamma ($21 Value) FREE The Ultimate Linux Newbie Guide – Featured Free content Python Notes for Professionals – Featured Free content Learn Linux in 5 Days – Featured Free content Quick Reference Guide for Cybersecurity – Featured Free content We post these because we earn commission on each lead so as not to rely solely on advertising, which many of our readers block. It all helps toward paying staff reporters, servers and hosting costs. Other ways to support Neowin The above deal not doing it for you, but still want to help? Check out the links below. Check out our partner software in the Neowin Store Buy a T-shirt at Neowin's Threadsquad Subscribe to Neowin - for $14 a year, or $28 a year for an ad-free experience Disclosure: An account at Neowin Deals is required to participate in any deals powered by our affiliate, StackCommerce. For a full description of StackCommerce's privacy guidelines, go here. Neowin benefits from shared revenue of each sale made through the branded deals site.
    • Microsoft admits one of the most crucial Outlook features is currently broken by Sayan Sen Microsoft is making some decent progress when it comes to Windows 11. Recently we have confirmed reports of some rather useful improvements landing in the next version of the OS, 26H2, wherein GPU driver TDR crashes may finally be fixed, plus the company is also allowing users to disable web content on the Search. On the Outlook front though things have not been so rosy. Last month in May we reported several problems affecting basic functionalities on the app. These included a problem where documents would open blank or corrupt themselves. Following that, Quick Steps, a very useful feature, would no longer work correctly, and finally, Microsoft acknowledged a problem wherein images would fail to load up properly inside the email. Microsoft had resolved those bugs later and almost exactly a month after we reported on them, the company has now admitted a new similarly basic issue, this time on Macs. Users recently started noticing that Outlook would no longer display email threads properly as the original message itself was not displayed. An affected user Tsoumpas, C (ngmb) nicely described the problem in a forum post they made on Microsoft's site. They wrote: "Description of the issue: After updating Outlook for Mac [Version 16.110 (26061317)] on 18/6/2026, replying to any email no longer includes the original message in the reply window. Prior to the update, replies correctly contained the original email text below my response. Expected behavior: The original message should be included in the reply, as in previous Outlook versions and according to the configured reply settings. Actual behavior: The reply window contains only a blank composition area (or only my response), with none of the original email text included." Obviously this must be a highly frustrating for users as noted by several in that thread. The post, at the time of writing, has also been upvoted by more than 40 users indicating that is a fairly widespread bug. Thankfully Microsoft seems to have acknowledged the problem right around that time as it opened a new issue on its official website. In the support article, the company recommends switching to Outlook for Mac from the legacy app, where the problem appears to be happening.
    • PotPlayer 260622 by Razvan Serea PotPlayer is an extremely light-weight multimedia player for Windows. It feels like the KMPlayer, but is in active development. Supports almost every available video formats out there. PotPlayer contains internal codecs and there is no need to install codecs manually. Other key features include WebCam/Analog/Digital TV devices support, gapless video playback, DXVA, live broadcasting. Distinctive features of the player is a high quality playback, support for all modern video and audio formats and a built DXVA video codecs. A wide range of subtitles are supported and you are also able to capture audio, video, and screenshots. A comprehensive video and audio player, that also supports TV channels, subtitles and skins. Its been described on the Internet as The KMPlayer redux, and it pretty much is. Daum PotPlayer 260622 (1.7.22963) changelog: Removed Kakao TV Added pause function when navigating via the navigation bar Significantly improved internal stability Fixed an issue where colors appeared strange during RGB24 processing Improved playback for some HTTP streams Improved sync processing for the built-in audio renderer Fixed an issue where certain MP4 files behaved abnormally during playback Download: Daum PotPlayer (64-bit) | 54.7 MB (Freeware) Download: Daum PotPlayer (32-bit) | 61.1 MB View: Daum PotPlayer Home Page | Screenshot Get alerted to all of our Software updates on Twitter at @NeowinSoftware
  • Recent Achievements

    • Dedicated
      tuben earned a badge
      Dedicated
    • Week One Done
      mnsgroup earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Conversation Starter
      sumytbe earned a badge
      Conversation Starter
    • One Year In
      B4dM1k3 earned a badge
      One Year In
    • One Year In
      DarkWun earned a badge
      One Year In
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      522
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      199
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      94
    4. 4
      Michael Scrip
      82
    5. 5
      neufuse
      69
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!