Dinggus Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I have a 64GB MacBook Air and I don't want to use VMWare or really partition my HD to install Windows on it. Is there a way I can get Windows 7 on a thumb drive or external HD, then when I need it all I have to do is plug it in and dual boot to it? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPressland Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Just plug the drive in, install Windows 7 on it with a USB DVD Drive and you "should" be done. If not, Parallels trickery could work. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593909012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tews Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 The short of it is no ... this can not be done ... sorry ... ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593909026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKenndac Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I have it in my head that a Windows install doesn't support booting over USB. Can't back that up with anything! I made a Windows USB install drive using Microsoft's official tool, and I couldn't get my MacBook to boot from it. I wonder if the EFI in Macs doesn't allow booting *any* form of Windows from USB, be it the installer or the real deal. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593909062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPressland Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I think it's probably a no, get an external HDD, install VMWare, run the image off of the External Drive. Thats about it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593909260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme $niper Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I think it's probably a no, get an external HDD, install VMWare, run the image off of the External Drive. Thats about it. Be prepared for some horrid performance speeds though. USB is a slow interface for these kinds of things. The best luck (short of a Thunderbolt drive) is Gigabit Ethernet, but if that line is interrupted for some reason... :pinch: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593909900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassed Silver Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Windows installations can be hacked to boot from USB. About Macs and their love for USB booting: mmmh... I'm not sure... maybe, maybe not... If not by default, rEFIt could possibly help? :) Glassed Silver:mac Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593909950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinggus Posted April 19, 2011 Author Share Posted April 19, 2011 Guess I'll just have to dualboot with Boot Camp. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593909994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I'm finding it incredibly annoying that anno 2011 it's still next to impossible to boot Windows off an external drive, while Mac OS X boots off just about anything you throw at it. Hell, if I want to I could install full Mac OS X Lion on the SDHC Card plugged into the side of my iMac. The best luck (short of a Thunderbolt drive) is Gigabit Ethernet, but if that line is interrupted for some reason... :pinch: It's not as if a conventional HDD can read/write so fast it needs Thunderbolt. I've had really good performance running Mac OS X Lion off my FireWire 800 drive, can't say I notice a real difference in performance compared to my internal HDD. Totally different story when running it over USB 2.0 though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593911080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted April 19, 2011 MVC Share Posted April 19, 2011 nevermind. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593911094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme $niper Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 It's not as if a conventional HDD can read/write so fast it needs Thunderbolt. I've had really good performance running Mac OS X Lion off my FireWire 800 drive, can't say I notice a real difference in performance compared to my internal HDD. Totally different story when running it over USB 2.0 though. I agree, but I was making an assumption that the OP probably was going to have access to a USB enclosure or external of some kind because it's generally the more popular option. Firewire 800 capable enclosures have a hefty price premium on them simply because the required chip is more expensive. It was expensive enough for me to put up with USB 2.0 for a while longer until I can find a decent gigabit ethernet external drive. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593911234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinggus Posted April 20, 2011 Author Share Posted April 20, 2011 I have a 64GB thumb drive laying around, and all I wanted was to boot Windows from it, just to do some work, since I can't find PureEdge for OS X for the life of me. That's all I need it for. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593913252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme $niper Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I have a 64GB thumb drive laying around, and all I wanted was to boot Windows from it, just to do some work, since I can't find PureEdge for OS X for the life of me. That's all I need it for. Loading a VM from the thumb drive seems to be the easiest option, but... 1. Speed could be an issue as you'd be limited by the constraints of the USB interface, which usually maxes out at around 25MB/s 2. Reliability could be an issue because flash drives are not normally designed to support such intense tasks. A good quality drive should last but I would also do regular backups of the VM files to another source just in case. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593913262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinggus Posted April 20, 2011 Author Share Posted April 20, 2011 I planned to type out whatever military documents I had to, then upload them to DropBox. Is there a way on Mac to run .exe files? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593913708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme $niper Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I planned to type out whatever military documents I had to, then upload them to DropBox. Is there a way on Mac to run .exe files? Eh, it might be a stretch but you could try to use Wine or CrossOver... But most of the time the application in question would have to be popular enough to have gotten some compatibility attention... Otherwise, no... Not natively. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593913870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinggus Posted April 20, 2011 Author Share Posted April 20, 2011 Guess I'm out of luck. PureEdge isn't made for OS X, and I know IBM made LotusViewer which is the same thing, but I can't find it for OS X. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593914096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DootDootMan Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Guess I'm out of luck. PureEdge isn't made for OS X, and I know IBM made LotusViewer which is the same thing, but I can't find it for OS X. Just use Virtualbox Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593914108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Guess I'm out of luck. PureEdge isn't made for OS X, and I know IBM made LotusViewer which is the same thing, but I can't find it for OS X. Cleanest option here is to just run Windows in a virtualized environment like VMware Fusion or Virtualbox. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593914546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinggus Posted April 21, 2011 Author Share Posted April 21, 2011 Okay, thanks for the help everyone. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593916530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinggus Posted April 22, 2011 Author Share Posted April 22, 2011 Well, I found a program called WineBottler and it'll open Window files on OS X. So I was able to install Tag&Rename and it works very nice on my iMac. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593917728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinggus Posted April 24, 2011 Author Share Posted April 24, 2011 Wine didn't work out to good. Guess, I'll put Windows on some how with Boot Camp. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593923030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme $niper Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Wine didn't work out to good. Guess, I'll put Windows on some how with Boot Camp. Why do you insist on ignoring everyone's suggestions to use a virtual machine? If you're not playing a demanding game or using applications that require every bit of your available CPU and GPU power, you don't need boot camp. It's as simple as that. Boot camp requires a dedicated partition that you can't resize or delete as easily as you could with a dynamically growing VM disk image that you can throw onto different drives or delete altogether on a whim. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593924102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinggus Posted April 24, 2011 Author Share Posted April 24, 2011 Why do you insist on ignoring everyone's suggestions to use a virtual machine? If you're not playing a demanding game or using applications that require every bit of your available CPU and GPU power, you don't need boot camp. It's as simple as that. Boot camp requires a dedicated partition that you can't resize or delete as easily as you could with a dynamically growing VM disk image that you can throw onto different drives or delete altogether on a whim. I'm not ignoring any suggestion, and yes I plan to use VMware. Sorry. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593924390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme $niper Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 I'm not ignoring any suggestion, and yes I plan to use VMware. Sorry. Sorry if I came off as harsh, I was just wondering since boot camp does seem a little overkill in this situation. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593924458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinggus Posted April 24, 2011 Author Share Posted April 24, 2011 No it's okay, I apologize. I'll install VMware and install Win7. Thanks for the help! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/991164-installing-windows-on-usbexternal/#findComment-593924468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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