Unable to install Windows XP

[philcruicks]

Yeah there aren't any SATA drivers on HP's site

the easiest way to find out is to boot into Win 7

open device manager and expand

'IDE ATA/ATAPI contollers'

that should give you the model of the controller for eg mine is Intel® 82801G (ICH7 Family) Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 27DF

so I'd be looking for the ICH7 drivers from Intels website.

[Bryan R.]

I'm beginning to think this is an OEM only chipset so it's not at AMD's site for download and HP are being asses by not providing them.

  On 19/05/2011 at 16:04, philcruicks said:

Yeah there aren't any SATA drivers on HP's site

the easiest way to find out is to boot into Win 7

open device manager and expand

'IDE ATA/ATAPI contollers'

that should give you the model of the controller for eg mine is Intel® 82801G (ICH7 Family) Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 27DF

so I'd be looking for the ICH7 drivers from Intels website.

Why would it be Intel when it's an AMD processor and graphics?

[FoxMcCloud]

  On 19/05/2011 at 16:00, xWhiplash said:

Is all of this really worth an extra 10 FPS?

When you're running 20 FPS max when you can get 40-50 FPS, it's worth installing XP.

  On 19/05/2011 at 16:02, Xenosion said:

I have found that the chipset is the RS880M - AMD 8 Series Chipset. But damn is it hard to find drivers for it.It's prerogative what he wants to do.

  On 19/05/2011 at 16:04, philcruicks said:

Yeah there aren't any SATA drivers on HP's sitethe easiest way to find out is to boot into Win 7open device manager and expand'IDE ATA/ATAPI contollers'that should give you the model of the controller for eg mine is Intel® 82801G (ICH7 Family) Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 27DFso I'd be looking for the ICH7 drivers from Intels website.

I found a thread on an HP forum asking for SATA drivers for XP, apparently they're having the same problem I'm having. Someone on there pointed to a driver, which contains an .inf file, the same file that nLite asks for when adding a driver to the XP disk. I'm going to try and see if this works. Thanks for all the replies, and I'll reply if anything works or doesn't work.

[philcruicks]

  On 19/05/2011 at 16:05, Xenosion said:

I'm beginning to think this is an OEM only chipset so it's not at AMD's site for download and HP are being asses by not providing them.

Why would it be Intel when it's an AMD processor and graphics?

I said for e.g. that's what mine says

and therefore I'd be looking on intels site.

There's normally more than one entry in that section of device manager so was showing OP what to look for.

[bryonhowley]

What game's are you playing that could possibility run better on XP? I have not played one singe game that ran better on that old POS!

[KZWings]

  On 18/05/2011 at 19:29, FoxMcCloud said:

Hi guys, I searched on here and Google, but could not find a solution to my problem. Anyways, I have a Compaq Presario CQ56 laptop with Windows 7 x64. I have some programs that run a lot better on Windows XP and I'd like to install it on my laptop. The problem is, when I go through the Windows setup after booting from the CD, it will get to "Loading Windows" and then bluescreen. I tried going through the BIOS and see if there were any settings that I could change, but found nothing. According to HP's website. My laptop supports Windows XP x86 and x64 and supplies drivers. Any help on fixing this problem is greatly appreciated. Thanks :)

Can i ask what programs you have that run better on XP than 7?

[philcruicks]

  On 19/05/2011 at 17:00, bryonhowley said:

What game's are you playing that could possibility run better on XP? I have not played one singe game that ran better on that old POS!

He makes a good point, every game I have runs better on 7..except some really old ones that won't install on 7 not even in compatibility mode, but I have just given up on those games as they're so old.

[cooky560 Veteran]

  On 19/05/2011 at 17:18, philcruicks said:

He makes a good point, every game I have runs better on 7..except some really old ones that won't install on 7 not even in compatibility mode, but I have just given up on those games as they're so old.

To the contrary I've found almost every game runs better in XP than in 7. Games that run at 100fps in XP run at 50 or less in 7 :confused:

[Bryan R.]

  On 19/05/2011 at 17:00, bryonhowley said:

What game's are you playing that could possibility run better on XP? I have not played one singe game that ran better on that old POS!

  On 19/05/2011 at 17:12, KZWings said:

Can i ask what programs you have that run better on XP than 7?

  On 19/05/2011 at 15:21, FoxMcCloud said:

Yes, it does clearly have drivers available for both XP and XP x64. I was looking through some websites and downloaded vLite to slipstream disks, but I'm no expert and have no idea where I should start. And I have compared performance between a lot of games (Crysis, Battlefield 2, etc) and there are big enough performance differences to want to install XP or at least dual boot. Now I know there's no reason to use XP for the sake of using it unless you have a legitimate reason for doing so. :p

[notuptome2004]

Any games you mentioned dont really run better on windows XP since they run at a lower API version of directx 9 XP is very inefficient at how it handles your hardware .

Go out get something newer of a game tho like Crysis 2 for example it is DX9 only yet it will runs 3x faster on windows 7 then it will on windows XP and lets not forget ther is up coming games that will not prolly work on windows XP as ther is some now or 1 i can think of Just cause 2 wont work on XP install windows 7 and your issues will be gone as you gonna get this every time 7 is better for newer hardware even some older hardware end of story

[FoxMcCloud]

Hey guys, I downloaded a Sata drivers and used the slipstream program. XP installed flawlessly. Thanks a lot, I would never have figured it out on my own. :p

  On 19/05/2011 at 17:38, notuptome2004 said:

Any games you mentioned dont really run better on windows XP since they run at a lower API version of directx 9 XP is very inefficient at how it handles your hardware .

Go out get something newer of a game tho like Crysis 2 for example it is DX9 only yet it will runs 3x faster on windows 7 then it will on windows XP and lets not forget ther is up coming games that will not prolly work on windows XP as ther is some now or 1 i can think of Just cause 2 wont work on XP install windows 7 and your issues will be gone as you gonna get this every time 7 is better for newer hardware even some older hardware end of story

If a game is running at 40-50 extra FPS and the sound doesn't lag terribly, then it runs better. And when I do get newer games, I'll most likely be running them on Windows 8. :)

[notuptome2004]

  On 19/05/2011 at 22:54, FoxMcCloud said:

Hey guys, I downloaded a Sata drivers and used the slipstream program. XP installed flawlessly. Thanks a lot, I would never have figured it out on my own. :p

If a game is running at 40-50 extra FPS and the sound doesn't lag terribly, then it runs better. And when I do get newer games, I'll most likely be running them on Windows 8. :)

you wasting your hardware on a 11 year old OS most of it is not gonna be used if hardly ever just so ya know you could have avoided the issue and install windows 7 in 10 to 15 min and been done. it seems you must have an issue against windows 7 besides the belief you feel it would be Slower on your current games witch it is most certainly would not be in fact it be better not just cause of the FPs increase but the Overall performance of the Os runnign the game multi-tasking and everything

https://www.neowin.net/news/windows-7s-infection-rates-five-times-lower-than-windows-xp

also this

[FoxMcCloud]

  On 19/05/2011 at 23:22, notuptome2004 said:

you wasting your hardware on a 11 year old OS most of it is not gonna be used if hardly ever just so ya know you could have avoided the issue and install windows 7 in 10 to 15 min and been done. it seems you must have an issue against windows 7 besides the belief you feel it would be Slower on your current games witch it is most certainly would not be in fact it be better not just cause of the FPs increase but the Overall performance of the Os runnign the game multi-tasking and everything

https://www.neowin.net/news/windows-7s-infection-rates-five-times-lower-than-windows-xp

also this

Actually, I've been using Windows 7 for a while now, it's just that I get a huge performance boost on my games, which is what I use my computer most of the time for. Also, most viruses can be avoided without anti virus just by using common sense.

[Bryan R.]

  On 19/05/2011 at 23:58, FoxMcCloud said:

Actually, I've been using Windows 7 for a while now, it's just that I get a huge performance boost on my games, which is what I use my computer most of the time for. Also, most viruses can be avoided without anti virus just by using common sense.

Oh man you really are asking for a debate :laugh:

[Zanaffer]

  On 19/05/2011 at 15:07, Xenosion said:

If you read the OP, it doesn't even get that far. Usually, I would agree but I have seen some machine not even load the Windows installation setup before blue screening.

If it were getting that far, then he'd eventually get to the screen where he chooses which drive to install to and it would say there are no drives detected.

Not necessarily true. It's rare, but I have seen machines that will BSOD unless you have the driver slipstreamed into the XP install disk. I forgot which machines they were (it's been over a year since it last happened to me) but I'm pretty sure the hardware is "close enough" that the XP installer tries loading an incompatible driver, and fails terribly.

Oh, and HP/Compaq have been disabling the AHCI/IDE selection in the BIOS on pretty much any notebook new enough to ship with an OS that supports AHCI out of the box. They do this to prevent the dreaded (but stupid) 0x0000007B BSOD for their normal customers that poke around in the BIOS without knowing truly what they're doing.