Fringe (Season 4)

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In one of the episodes, we have seen that the observers "interrupted" twice with the timeline - once in Walternate's lab when he was producing the medicine to cure other-side-Peter (we were watching from the Walter's perspective through that window he built). Now this is me fetching the needle in the haystack, but why didn't the observer's simply avoid interfering with that particular event so that Walternate could cure his kid. The only reason I'm thinking is that they really want that the bridge between worlds.

I wonder if they will discuss the machine's "new story line" - who and how they activated it.

In one of the episodes, we have seen that the observers "interrupted" twice with the timeline - once in Walternate's lab when he was producing the medicine to cure other-side-Peter (we were watching from the Walter's perspective through that window he built). Now this is me fetching the needle in the haystack, but why didn't the observer's simply avoid interfering with that particular event so that Walternate could cure his kid. The only reason I'm thinking is that they really want that the bridge between worlds.

I wonder if they will discuss the machine's "new story line" - who and how they activated it.

Because peter was supposed to die. They are trying to preserve the "correct" timeline, and apparently that doesn't involve peter.

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As was posted, in spoiler tags the episode explains things, the timeline we had up until the end of season 3 is "gone", it doesn't exist anymore, that's how time travel and paradoxes screw with things.

Peter died in the ice lake but Walter still punched a whole into the other side which started the whole mess in the first place, thus the other side waging war on this side still happened, but now other things are different because peter isn't around to have an effect on them.

Why is the machine still around if Peter isn't? Because he didn't fully close the two sides at the end of the season, he left that hole, he didn't erase one side or w/e so although the Peter timeline isn't there anymore the machine, since it's from the future anyways, still is, cuz the paradox for the most part wasn't undone. This is why the observer was going to fully undo it but didn't and why Peter is still lingering.

Honestly, it all makes sense, really. :p

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As was posted, in spoiler tags the episode explains things, the timeline we had up until the end of season 3 is "gone", it doesn't exist anymore, that's how time travel and paradoxes screw with things.

Peter died in the ice lake but Walter still punched a whole into the other side which started the whole mess in the first place, thus the other side waging war on this side still happened, but now other things are different because peter isn't around to have an effect on them.

Why is the machine still around if Peter isn't? Because he didn't fully close the two sides at the end of the season, he left that hole, he didn't erase one side or w/e so although the Peter timeline isn't there anymore the machine, since it's from the future anyways, still is, cuz the paradox for the most part wasn't undone. This is why the observer was going to fully undo it but didn't and why Peter is still lingering.

Honestly, it all makes sense, really. :p

No, both Peters were dying of a disease and the one Walter brought through after his son died fell into the lake but died because the Observer didn't save them as we saw last season. However, the grownup one that disappeared is apparently still around somewhere waiting for Walter to bring him back.

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For a show that is trying to increase ratings, it's not doing a very good job. I thought this was the worst episode so far, with terrible acting and a plot that was basically a red herring. It's clumsily retreading the same ground, has lost its intrigue and if it weren't for John Noble, I would probably stop watching it. :(

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What a great episode! I'm so glad they didn't drag the whole Peter in another dimension thing out like other shows would have.

I know right? That's what I love about Fringe: They'll end things at just the right time. In any other show we would have been at episode 17 of the 20.

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Yusuf M. Veteran

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For a show that is trying to increase ratings, it's not doing a very good job. I thought this was the worst episode so far, with terrible acting and a plot that was basically a red herring. It's clumsily retreading the same ground, has lost its intrigue and if it weren't for John Noble, I would probably stop watching it. :(

I found the episode to be one of the better ones this season. It was interesting to see another person from Walter's experiments. And the ending... I expected him to return, but not like that. I look forward to watching the next episode. :)

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