Health care workers refuse to take H1N1 vaccine

[chrisj1968]

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?The truth is that vaccines aren?t effective, generally carry dangerous side effects, and in many cases actually fuel the spread of pandemics,? said Dr. Leonard Horowitz, a Harvard University trained medical researcher who also holds a Master?s Degree in Public Health. ?The fact is that most healthcare workers know this, and they don?t trust that any swine flu vaccine will do anything but cause more problems and potential harm to the patients they care for.?

In Dr. Horowitz?s view, vaccines do more harm than good, and are little more than a way for the pharmaceutical companies to profit from epidemics and side effects.

The scare, however, seemed to have less substance than volume, as the thousands of U.S. deaths that were predicted never happened, Dr. Horowitz added.

?The H1N1 swine flu shot is more of a drug than a vaccine given the list of toxic chemical ingredients causing side effects including Guillain-Barre syndrome, a deadly paralyzing disorder widespread after the 1976 swine flu vaccination campaign.? Dr. Horowitz continued.

?Vaccines are an aberration, and the medical profession and pharmaceutical companies have been playing fast and loose with explaining how vaccines immunize people,? he said. ?Classic immunology draws an important distinction between the terms ?immunize? and ?vaccinate.? By casually substituting ?immunization? for ?vaccination,? the pharmaceutical machine mystifies the masses. More accurately, vaccinations cause hyper-sensitizations. Simply put white blood cell body guards begin to attack far more than desired. Myriad auto-immune diseases and childhood injuries result from vaccinations. However, pseudo-scientists and ignorant health officials confuse this matter with the ?immunization? misnomer. Similarly, they repeat the myth that vaccines, not improvements in hygiene and nutrition, caused the great reduction, or alleged elimination, of deadly human diseases.?

[BoredBozirini]

Roger that, no vaccine!

[Arkaic]

I think I failed at satire....

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Simply put, don't take the vaccine! ;)

So why should I trust him? Over thousands of doctors that agree? Hmmm..

[chrisj1968]

So why should I trust him? Over thousands of doctors that agree? Hmmm..

because of this: Thimerosal

And here

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

How does somebody like Dr. Leonard Horowitz get a job when they're that obviously wrong?

[chrisj1968]

How does somebody like Dr. Leonard Horowitz get a job when they're that obviously wrong?

Just a question not flame baiting here: "Why do you get a vaccine for the flu? which, is from last years strain? makes no sense AND I know this as I was trained as a combat lifesaver(medic) and taught that flu vaccines are from the prior years strain NEVER from the current years? also, don't you have an immune system?

Now some people have compromised immune systems BUT the adjuvants, are meant to "stimulate" the immune system but they over stimulate the immune system and cause people, like myself to have auto-immune disorders?

Thimerosal is banned in many nations and as the wikipedia has stated, 12 out of 21 test subjects using a vaccine for diptheria, 12 died

vaccines are worthless.

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Leonard Horowitz sells bottles of water for $20 which, "The instant you touch or taste it, every one of your billions of cells gets super-charged with the essence of LOVE." In other words, he's a scam artist who views sickness as profit.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

Well, that explains it then.

[chrisj1968]

Never heard such a thing. do you have a link? but he's not the only one saying no in the expert field. the Thimerosal is of mercury...hmm need more proof?

video

[bob21]

Thank god entities (i refuse to use the normal word) like this didn't exist 50 years ago or polio would still be here. Im realy not an aggressive person but if one of these little nazis was in the same room as me i would strangle him to death with my bare hands.

How people like this can pout their hate of capitilisim ahead of the lives and welfare of other people is both astonishing and sickening.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

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the Thimerosal is of mercury...hmm need more proof?

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Providing any proof would be a good start.

[chrisj1968]

Look, set aside what you think of me. I'm investigating this stuff and have found all this information and want to pass it out. I don't want YOU or YOUR families getting hurt of killed by this crazy stuff.

live and let live I always say .

Providing any proof would be a good start.

too easy! : Thimerosal

excerpt:

Introduction

Thimerosal is a mercury-containing organic compound (an organomercurial). Since the 1930s, it has been widely used as a preservative in a number of biological and drug products, including many vaccines, to help prevent potentially life threatening contamination with harmful microbes. Over the past several years, because of an increasing awareness of the theoretical potential for neurotoxicity of even low levels of organomercurials and because of the increased number of thimerosal containing vaccines that had been added to the infant immunization schedule, concerns about the use of thimerosal in vaccines and other products have been raised. Indeed, because of these concerns, the Food and Drug Administration has worked with, and continues to work with, vaccine manufacturers to reduce or eliminate thimerosal from vaccines.

[bob21]

I don't want YOU or YOUR families getting hurt of killed by this crazy stuff

No you don't want big pharma to get bigger and your willing to put that ahead of the lives and well being of other people.

Next paragraph

At concentrations found in vaccines, thimerosal meets the requirements for a preservative as set forth by the United States Pharmacopeia; that is, it kills the specified challenge organisms and is able to prevent the growth of the challenge fungi (U.S. Pharmacopeia 2004). Thimerosal in concentrations of 0.001% (1 part in 100,000) to 0.01% (1 part in 10,000) has been shown to be effective in clearing a broad spectrum of pathogens. A vaccine containing 0.01% thimerosal as a preservative contains 50 micrograms of thimerosal per 0.5 mL dose or approximately 25 micrograms of mercury per 0.5 mL dose.

[O.G]

Leonard Horowitz sells bottles of water for $20 which, "The instant you touch or taste it, every one of your billions of cells gets super-charged with the essence of LOVE." In other words, he's a scam artist who views sickness as profit.

I'll bite. Even if Ol'Len was selling love water for $20, who's making the real profit from sickness?

Flu shots are for people with vulnerable immune systems, there is zero, none, 0, reason for any normal healthy adult or child to mindlessly volunteer for a worthless vaccine that has had practically no clinical trailing (well in Poland, where it was tested on the homeless (resulting in a lawsuit) and something like 13 of the 120 people died), and for which governments have granted immunity from prosecution the vaccine manufacturers so if you do grow a penis from your forehead, you can't sue anyone. And you wonder why you're called sheeple. Geez.

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because of this: Thimerosal

And here

According to that, most people wouldn't even need the multi-dose option... which is the only one that contains Thiomersal.

[chrisj1968]

No you don't want big pharma to get bigger and your willing to put that ahead of the lives and well being of other people.

well I tried to warn ya. sorry buddy I will keep my discussion from you.

The Great thimesoral coverup

Thimerosal is the preservative of choice for vaccine manufacturers. First introduced by Eli Lilly and Company in the late 1920s and early 1930s, the company began selling it as a preservative in vaccines in the 1940s. Thimerosal contains 49.6 percent mercury by weight and is metabolized or degraded into ethylmercury and thiosalicylate. Mercury, or more precisely, ethylmercury, is the principle agent that kills contaminants. Unfortunately, mercury also kills much more than that.

The Department of Defense classifies mercury as a hazardous material that could cause death if swallowed, inhaled or absorbed through the skin. Studies indicate that mercury tends to accumulate in the brains of primates and other animals after they are injected with vaccines. Mercury poisoning has been linked to cardiovascular disease, autism, seizures, mental retardation, hyperactivity, dyslexia and many other nervous system conditions. That's why the FDA rigorously limits exposure to mercury in foods and drugs. Some common sources of mercury include dental amalgam fillings, various vaccines and certain fish contaminated by polluted ocean waters.

The toxicity of mercury has never been in question. The real question is precisely how much mercury-laced thimerosal is toxic, and what are the possible consequences for our children at low doses?

Eli Lilly and Co. supposedly answered this question for us back in 1930. Concluding thimerosal to be of "a very low order of toxicity . . . for man," the company hired its own doctors to perform thimerosal experiments in Indianapolis City Hospital on meningitis patients during a severe outbreak in 1929. This 60-year-old evidence was still quoted on the company's brochures as recently as 1990. Andrew Waters, who is involved in a lawsuit against Eli Lilly, claims that most critical studies on the toxicity of thimerosal were suppressed by the company until now.

[O.G]

According to that, most people wouldn't even need the multi-dose option... which is the only one that contains Thiomersal.

The proposed mass vaccination vaccine is a multidose vaccine. It is 2 or 3 parts IIRC. The single dose vaccine has not even reached testing, though the employees and family members have been offered firts dibs on the single dose. Suppose it's easier to cover it up if you keep it in house.

Yeah, then there is the other school of thought that the flu outbreak was simply the precursor, the seed sowing, and that it is the vaccination in combination with the swine flu that will genetically recombine to create the actual disease that will do the damage. Interesting if a bit out there.

Edited September 24, 2009 by O.G

[bob21]

well I tried to warn ya. sorry buddy I will keep my discussion from you.

The Great thimesoral coverup

Lets have a look at some of the other articles on this BS website

Beating Cancer with Nutrition

Alternative Medicine Soars as Pharmaceuticals Sour

Beets are an Alternative Cancer Treatment

No no bias there.

[chrisj1968]

The proposed mass vaccination vaccine is a multidose vaccine. It is 3 parts IIRC. The single dose vaccine has not even reached testing, though the employees and family members have been offered firts dibs on the single dose. Suppose it's easier to cover it up if you keep it in house.

according to reports last week, the H1N1 is so effective that 1 dose is all they say it takes. but they want us to take the H1N1 AND the normal seasonal vaccine..talk about pumping garbage into our veins... :x

[bob21]

according to reports last week, the H1N1 is so effective that 1 dose is all they say it takes. but they want us to take the H1N1 AND the normal seasonal vaccine..talk about pumping garbage into our veins... :x

From where Natural News ?

[chrisj1968]

Lets have a look at some of the other articles on this BS website

Beating Cancer with Nutrition

Alternative Medicine Soars as Pharmaceuticals Sour

Beets are an Alternative Cancer Treatment

No no bias there.

has it ever occurred to you that maybe nature products, herbals and the like are better for us than these damn drugs? example: these drug commericals take this drug for X problem but side affects are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9... are they even worth the trouble taking?

remember how did we heal ourselves BEFORE big Pharma???? there was no smith/Kline, etc..

[O.G]

To be fair, we also had a life expectancy of 40. It is the business of pharma to keep people sicker for longer, so they give with one hand yet take with the other.

[chrisj1968]

From where Natural News ?

don't look at the narrow picture. they are only reporting what is real. either that or, you're an agent provocateur of some kind.

[bob21]

has it ever occurred to you that maybe nature products, herbals and the like are better for us than these damn drugs?

No because those darn drugs have had their effectiveness proven via a double blind test . Where as herbals do not.

example: these drug commericals take this drug for X problem but side affects are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9... are they even worth the trouble taking?

And natural products don't have side effects because they do dick , Also the drug will only be proscribed when the problem outweighs side effects and their rate of occurence

remember how did we heal ourselves BEFORE big Pharma???? there was no smith/Kline, etc..

We relied on god.

Your hidden agenda has been exposed, How people like this can pout their hate of capitilisim ahead of the lives and welfare of other people is both astonishing and sickening.

don't look at the narrow picture. they are only reporting what is real. either that or, you're an agent provocateur of some kind.

They have a clear bias and products to sell that makes them an unreliable source of information .

[chrisj1968]

To be fair, we also had a life expectancy of 40. It is the business of pharma to keep people sicker for longer, so they give with one hand yet take with the other.

true. but life has a price then. they don't want caner patients to end their lives. why? they want you to live long as possible to make more $$$. medicine is only a profit industry