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[bruNo_]

One of the last episodes of "Through the wormhole" (at least here in Brazil ) was about Time Travel, have you seen it?

[+Crisp]

I've always thought, everyone says the speeds of light is the fastest known way to travel in the unviverse and that it's the only fastest known speed in existance. I find this be wrong. If the speed of light is the fastest known speed in existance then can one explain how fast the speed of the universe was with the "big bang". I'm pretty sure the speed of the debrey flying out from the "big bang" was faster, than the speed of light. Surely a fueled explosion of a huge scale would beat the speed of light.
All in all, we don't need the speed of light to go fast, wasn't it proven shortcuts within space was also a possibility by using Wormhole paths through Hyperspace to reach another part of the universe without the speed / time factor.

[The Protagonist]

SCRISP, on 26 July 2011 - 11:15, said:

I've always thought, everyone says the speeds of light is the fastest known way to travel in the unviverse and that it's the only fastest known speed in existance. I find this be wrong. If the speed of light is the fastest known speed in existance then can one explain how fast the speed of the universe was with the "big bang". I'm pretty sure the speed of the debrey flying out from the "big bang" was faster, than the speed of light. Surely a fueled explosion of a huge scale would beat the speed of light.
All in all, we don't need the speed of light to go fast, wasn't it proven shortcuts within space was also a possibility by using Wormhole paths through Hyperspace to reach another part of the universe without the speed / time factor.

warp speed is about 3x fast than the speed of light, though its only theory

[.Neo]

Mephistopheles, on 26 July 2011 - 10:39, said:

I prefer regular science to the obscure variants of science you're into, sorry.

Agreed, although he does have a point when it comes to the "Another case of "we don't know how to do it, therefore it must be impossible". I have often been amazed by the arrogance of some researchers in documentaries where they claim with 100% certainty this and that won't ever be achieved. A lot of things we're doing today were deemed impossible not too long ago.

[stevember]

SCRISP, on 26 July 2011 - 11:15, said:

I've always thought, everyone says the speeds of light is the fastest known way to travel in the unviverse and that it's the only fastest known speed in existance. I find this be wrong. If the speed of light is the fastest known speed in existance then can one explain how fast the speed of the universe was with the "big bang". I'm pretty sure the speed of the debrey flying out from the "big bang" was faster, than the speed of light. Surely a fueled explosion of a huge scale would beat the speed of light.
All in all, we don't need the speed of light to go fast, wasn't it proven shortcuts within space was also a possibility by using Wormhole paths through Hyperspace to reach another part of the universe without the speed / time factor.

Wormholes are just fantasy and wishful thinking.

Regarding your theory that things must be faster than the speed of light because of the big bang is incorrect, it is very hard to comprehend an exploding star let alone the big bang but the truth still remains it would not have been faster than the speed of light.

If it was faster than the speed of light we would not be able to see anything when looking away from the origin of the big bang relative to us as the light would not be able to travel back to us. Plus the expansion is speeding up so therefore it is going at a faster rate than the original big bang. That's one of many reasons.

I don't think people quite understand how fast light is. The big bang albeit on a massive scale was just a chemical explosion, we can reproduce similar on earth but not to the scale, we are able to film/see it therefore light must be faster.

.Neo, on 26 July 2011 - 11:25, said:

Agreed, although he does have a point when it comes to the "Another case of "we don't know how to do it, therefore it must be impossible". I have often been amazed by the arrogance of some researchers in documentaries where they claim with 100% certainty this and that won't ever be achieved. A lot of things we're doing today were deemed impossible not too long ago.

Scientists don't normally say if we don't know how to do it therefore it must be impossible, amateurs maybe, media and maybe some teachers.

[Rudy]

It's possible guys, I've done it but it's over rated

[+articuno1au]

stevember, on 26 July 2011 - 11:43, said:

Wormholes are just fantasy and wishful thinking.

Regarding your theory that things must be faster than the speed of light because of the big bang is incorrect, it is very hard to comprehend an exploding star let alone the big bang but the truth still remains it would not have been faster than the speed of light.

If it was faster than the speed of light we would not be able to see anything when looking away from the origin of the big bang relative to us as the light would not be able to travel back to us. Plus the expansion is speeding up so therefore it is going at a faster rate than the original big bang. That's one of many reasons.

I don't think people quite understand how fast light is. The big bang albeit on a massive scale was just a chemical explosion, we can reproduce similar on earth but not to the scale, we are able to film/see it therefore light must be faster.



Scientists don't normally say if we don't know how to do it therefore it must be impossible, amateurs maybe, media and maybe some teachers.

No, they say it all the time, they just don't mean it >.<

Let's build a plane with 0 wings and super magic powers!
It can't be done :\

Where as they (actually) mean "It can't be done with our current technology" >.<

The issue is semantic, not scientific >.<

[Matrix XII]

Hum, on 26 July 2011 - 10:35, said:

It's times like this when you really have to laugh at Science.

Light is only a part of an even larger, unrecognized Electromagnetic spectrum -- not the 'fastest'.

And time travel has 'already' been accomplished.

Another case of "we don't know how to do it, therefore it must be impossible".

What?

[DocM]

If it's electromagnetic it's light, be it radio waves, visible or gamma, and therefore limited by the speed of light. Duh.

[Medfordite]

To prove if it is possible or not, let me wait here for my future self to come back and tell me. I will let you know when it happens.

[Hum]

Matrix XII, on 26 July 2011 - 18:26, said:

What?

Some cases of UFOs are time travelers from our 'future', and some are even from other Dimensions.

[mudslag]

articuno1au, on 26 July 2011 - 10:40, said:

I agree with the last line..

The rest of it shows Hum is still on the crazy pills >.<

+1

Hum, on 27 July 2011 - 00:07, said:

Some cases of UFOs are time travelers from our 'future', and some are even from other Dimensions.

That's called science fiction not fact

[scaramonga]

Possibly to go forward in time, but going back would be kinda restricted.

Think about it...

One could only go back in time to the point where the method of time travel was invented, anything before that would be impossible, as the method did not exist before then

[stevan]

The universe itself, or space-time, is expanding faster than the speed of light. But anything within this universe cannot exceed the speed of light as it would require infinite energy.

We could slow time down by orbiting a black hole.

[mudslag]

What is impossible now, may not be impossible in the future.