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[shozilla]

If you have Metro on your tablet, that is fine but don't forget that Win 8 has two modes on your tablet which are: Metro and Desktop.

For example: You have Windows 7 or 8 on your desktop at home and you have Windows 8 on your tablet.

You have gone to hotel for work or pleasure with your tablet. You can switch to desktop mode on your tablet for remote desktop to access your home computer. Simple.

If you do not like Metro version, then you can always turn that off. I am sure they will add an option to allow us to enable or disable the Metro mode in the final version. Probably in pre-release versions. If you are on developer preview, then you can tweak it to disable Metro. There is tweak info on the internet and on this forum somewhere.

[adam.mt]

pack34, on 11 February 2012 - 15:22, said:

The answer is no. There will be no third party applications on desktop ARM. If you want third party desktop apps then you want an x86 device.

I'm not sure that's right, else there would be little point in the 'desktop' being made available for WOA. I know 'desktop apps' will be discouraged and Metro pushed to the front, but I don't think Microsoft will actually be stopping a software developer from making a 'desktop app' that runs on WOA. Unless you have evidence for otherwise?

[Stoffel]

shozilla, on 15 February 2012 - 18:34, said:

If you have Metro on your tablet, that is fine but don't forget that Win 8 has two modes on your tablet which are: Metro and Desktop.

For example: You have Windows 7 or 8 on your desktop at home and you have Windows 8 on your tablet.

You have gone to hotel for work or pleasure with your tablet. You can switch to desktop mode on your tablet for remote desktop to access your home computer. Simple.

If you do not like Metro version, then you can always turn that off. I am sure they will add an option to allow us to enable or disable the Metro mode in the final version. Probably in pre-release versions. If you are on developer preview, then you can tweak it to disable Metro. There is tweak info on the internet and on this forum somewhere.

I'm pretty sure MS will NOT give us an option to turn of Metro.
Why would they give us that switch? It would mean everybody turns metro off before they give it a chance because it's a change of what they are used to.
As a consequence of that nobody will make Metro apps, so that would go against the whole idea of Win 8

adam.mt, on 15 February 2012 - 18:44, said:

I'm not sure that's right, else there would be little point in the 'desktop' being made available for WOA. I know 'desktop apps' will be discouraged and Metro pushed to the front, but I don't think Microsoft will actually be stopping a software developer from making a 'desktop app' that runs on WOA. Unless you have evidence for otherwise?

Read the full article from the Building Windows 8 blog site about WOA, they state there that there will be no desktop apps for WOA except for Office 15 IE 10 and windows explorer

[Dot Matrix]

Stoffel, on 15 February 2012 - 18:49, said:

I'm pretty sure MS will NOT give us an option to turn of Metro.
Why would they give us that switch? It would mean everybody turns metro off before they give it a chance because it's a change of what they are used to.
As a consequence of that nobody will make Metro apps, so that would go against the whole idea of Win 8


Read the full article from the Building Windows 8 blog site about WOA, they state there that there will be no desktop apps for WOA except for Office 15 IE 10 and windows explorer

No, but that's not stopping developers from porting their desktop apps over to ARM.

[Stoffel]

Dot Matrix, on 15 February 2012 - 18:54, said:

No, but that's not stopping developers from porting their desktop apps over to ARM.

I might not understand it correctly, but i believe they mean there will be no desktop apps on ARM other then the ones MS gives you
They will just not let you install them

But i might be wrong

[shozilla]

Stoffel, on 15 February 2012 - 18:49, said:

I'm pretty sure MS will NOT give us an option to turn of Metro.
Why would they give us that switch? It would mean everybody turns metro off before they give it a chance because it's a change of what they are used to.
As a consequence of that nobody will make Metro apps, so that would go against the whole idea of Win 8

Microsoft isn't thinking. Because some of us users who have desktops with multi-monitors setups. I want desktop version of Windows for this. Such as video editing, graphic designing.. the tablets are too small for my work usages. I can use tablet for web surfing, email, you know?

If Microsoft is not giving us the option to switch, then we will be switching back to Windows 7 and wait for Windwos 9 or change to Linux or get an iMac. And Microsoft will lose their customers to someone else such as Apple, Linux.

Microsoft should have seperated OS modes.. I mean they should allow us to choose one of the two versions of Windows... for example: Windows Metro for tablets only. Windows 8 for desktops only such as dell desktops, custom built desktops, etc.

Think about it.

[capr]

people don't want change... as much as they may say they like and want change, they are resistant to it. pick anything thing new. you will find tons of people hating it before it arrives and tons more hating it once it arrives. a year or two later, you will see that people love the now old thing and are hating the next new thing.

[Stoffel]

shozilla, on 15 February 2012 - 19:53, said:

Microsoft isn't thinking. Because some of us users who have desktops with multi-monitors setups. I want desktop version of Windows for this. Such as video editing, graphic designing.. the tablets are too small for my work usages. I can use tablet for web surfing, email, you know?

If Microsoft is not giving us the option to switch, then we will be switching back to Windows 7 and wait for Windwos 9 or change to Linux or get an iMac. And Microsoft will lose their customers to someone else such as Apple, Linux.

Microsoft should have seperated OS modes.. I mean they should allow us to choose one of the two versions of Windows... for example: Windows Metro for tablets only. Windows 8 for desktops only such as dell desktops, custom built desktops, etc.

Think about it.

I don't understand your complaint.
On a desktop computer you will have the metro start screen from which you can start all your metro and desktop apps, and you can use the start screen to search.
Other then that you have your desktop where you also have the option to launch all your normal day to day desktop apps.
If you have more then one monitor, you will always have one that will start up with the metro start screen the other one will have the desktop.

What is so bad about having all the options right there in front of you????
You clearly belong to the group of people who don't understand Win8 yet

Explain

[Dot Matrix]

shozilla, on 15 February 2012 - 19:53, said:

Microsoft isn't thinking. Because some of us users who have desktops with multi-monitors setups. I want desktop version of Windows for this. Such as video editing, graphic designing.. the tablets are too small for my work usages. I can use tablet for web surfing, email, you know?

If Microsoft is not giving us the option to switch, then we will be switching back to Windows 7 and wait for Windwos 9 or change to Linux or get an iMac. And Microsoft will lose their customers to someone else such as Apple, Linux.

Microsoft should have seperated OS modes.. I mean they should allow us to choose one of the two versions of Windows... for example: Windows Metro for tablets only. Windows 8 for desktops only such as dell desktops, custom built desktops, etc.

Think about it.

You can still use Windows 8 with multiple monitors. Metro will only appear on the main display.

[shozilla]

Stoffel, on 15 February 2012 - 20:32, said:

I don't understand your complaint.
On a desktop computer you will have the metro start screen from which you can start all your metro and desktop apps, and you can use the start screen to search.
Other then that you have your desktop where you also have the option to launch all your normal day to day desktop apps.
If you have more then one monitor, you will always have one that will start up with the metro start screen the other one will have the desktop.

What is so bad about having all the options right there in front of you????
You clearly belong to the group of people who don't understand Win8 yet

Explain

You don't get it. You said, in previous post, that said "I'm pretty sure MS will NOT give us an option to turn of Metro."

I wasn't complaining, I was explaining to you which Microsoft isn't thinking about desktop users for heavy work such as video editing, graphic designing. I know how Windows 8/metro works and I know there is one screen on main display but I don't want metro screen on 1 monitor while I have desktop screen on rest of the monitors.. it's stupid which I have tried. Which is why I said before, Microsoft should have added an option to enable or disable the Metro screen.

Dot Matrix, on 15 February 2012 - 21:11, said:

You can still use Windows 8 with multiple monitors. Metro will only appear on the main display.

Like I said, it's stupid. Looks funny. It's fine for those people who have ONE monitor. Not for those people who have multi-monitors setups.

I prefer taskbar goes across the monitors. And an app sits on taskbar on that specific monitor. For example, you have outlook, it show outlook icon on taskbar on monitor 1, IE icon on monitor 2's taskbar. you know what I am saying?

Tablets can have both modes of Windows that is fine which desktop mode can be used for remote desktop, desktop apps, etc.

[Stoffel]

shozilla, on 15 February 2012 - 22:09, said:

You don't get it. You said, in previous post, that said "I'm pretty sure MS will NOT give us an option to turn of Metro."

I wasn't complaining, I was explaining to you which Microsoft isn't thinking about desktop users for heavy work such as video editing, graphic designing. I know how Windows 8/metro works and I know there is one screen on main display but I don't want metro screen on 1 monitor while I have desktop screen on rest of the monitors.. it's stupid which I have tried. Which is why I said before, Microsoft should have added an option to enable or disable the Metro screen.



Like I said, it's stupid. Looks funny. It's fine for those people who have ONE monitor. Not for those people who have multi-monitors setups.

I prefer taskbar goes across the monitors. And an app sits on taskbar on that specific monitor. For example, you have outlook, it show outlook icon on taskbar on monitor 1, IE icon on monitor 2's taskbar. you know what I am saying?

Tablets can have both modes of Windows that is fine which desktop mode can be used for remote desktop, desktop apps, etc.

If MS would let you turn of the Metro start screen then they have to maintain two start menus, 2 different search options, .... 2 of everything
So they will not let you turn it off. Which doesn't mean that if you are a desktop user you need to come in touch with the Metro side of Windows to much.
Only for search and maybe to odd Metro app you want to launch.
All the other multi monitor extras you are describing will be possible with win8 as far as I know.

I still think it's strange not more people see the benefit of writing apps for metro. You write it once and it will work on Win8, WOA, and probably WP8 and XBOX
That is a huge market to target with only one app

[cropcircles]

pack34, on 15 February 2012 - 18:10, said:

Your log-in is tied to your live-id so your settings follow you when you log into another computer. There will be more customization options in the consumer preview and it'll be more friendly to keyboard and mouse.

Thank You. Why am I required to sign in to access my desktop. Will this be there for Beta or RTM. Is there an option to boot up right to my desktop bypassing the sign in and MS Window Speed Dial thingy.

[Shaun]

pack34, on 11 February 2012 - 14:45, said:

Why do people keep creating endless threads about Windows 8? Talk in the existing ones.

[cropcircles]

I"m no expert as most of you are or think you are and maybe its a generational issue with technology going more mobile. That isn't me and it won't be. I'm a Desktop user and don't want to change but I might have to in time. Is W8 being developed more for the mobile generation. Phones and tablets. ? Can somebody explain this in everyday usage terms.

[~Johnny]

shozilla, on 15 February 2012 - 22:09, said:

I wasn't complaining, I was explaining to you which Microsoft isn't thinking about desktop users for heavy work such as video editing, graphic designing. I know how Windows 8/metro works and I know there is one screen on main display but I don't want metro screen on 1 monitor while I have desktop screen on rest of the monitors.. it's stupid which I have tried. Which is why I said before, Microsoft should have added an option to enable or disable the Metro screen

You can have the desktop on ALL your monitors. The Start screen will just act exactly like the Windows 7 start menu does now - it'll open up on the screen you call it on, and then close and return you to the desktop when you're done with it. It's not always just sitting in living there. It's a menu, not a desktop replacement. It does not constantly hog your monitor and not let you do anything else... it's just a start menu!

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I prefer taskbar goes across the monitors. And an app sits on taskbar on that specific monitor. For example, you have outlook, it show outlook icon on taskbar on monitor 1, IE icon on monitor 2's taskbar. you know what I am saying?

Windows 8 does that. Taskbar that extends across all your monitors, and lets you have specific apps on each. Yays?