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Statistically, that's not a great sign for Windows 8, consider all PCs (even Macs) can run Windows, and anyone can download the preview, unlike Mountain Lion, which is limited to OSX developers.

What? Did you read the article? Windows 8 is double that of Mountain Lion.

Statistically, that's not a great sign for Windows 8, consider all PCs (even Macs) can run Windows, and anyone can download the preview, unlike Mountain Lion, which is limited to OSX developers.

Couldn't have explained it better.

Its pointless comparison but W8 is still doing great in terms of market share

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0

Statistically, that's not a great sign for Windows 8, consider all PCs (even Macs) can run Windows, and anyone can download the preview, unlike Mountain Lion, which is limited to OSX developers.

Yeah. Also doesn't jibe with some other stats which claim Win 8 CP is being used by twice the people using Win 7 Beta at the same point in its development.

https://twitter.com/?tw_e=screenname&tw_i=193383361337753601&tw_p=tweetembed#!/BuildWindows8/status/193383361337753601

What? Did you read the article? Windows 8 is double that of Mountain Lion.

I don't think u got his point... To install Mountain lion you need developer account and you need to pay yearly subscription for it.

Its $99 i believe.

I don't think u got his point... To install Mountain lion you need developer account and you need to pay yearly subscription for it.

Its $99 i believe.

Actually, there is nothing to prevent you from just downloading it off BitTorrent or the other usual places. You are supposed to use a unique App Store code to install it, but this is easily gotten around.

the Windows 8 Consumer preview exhibits traffic levels almost twice that of Mac OS X Mountain Lion

That is a bit surprising considering the Mac's <10% market share (and the fact that ML is not even freely available)...

I didn't realise it was that popular.

You mean twice as popular as Apple's beta OS? :huh:

You mean twice as popular as Apple's beta OS? :huh:

No. Just the amount of people downloading it (CP).

As far as I can tell from the forums, there seems to be a lot of hate (or FUD) for Win 8.

That's why I was surprised at the volume of downloads.

I don't think u got his point... To install Mountain lion you need developer account and you need to pay yearly subscription for it.

Its $99 i believe.

You mean all the neowin users in that ML thread are registered Apple developers? :p

This isn't a great sign for Microsoft because Windows 8 is currently a Consumer Preview that anyone can download and Microsoft make it very easy to do so while Mountain Lion is currently for developers only and you need to have an active and paid Apple Developer Account to get access to Mountain Lion unless you pirate it.

So what this indicates to me is that Windows 8 isn't very popular it should be over 10,000% more popular than Mountain Lion.

It's a consumer preview, yes, but the market for people installing beta operating systems is small and not representative of the market as a whole. You can't really extrapolate anything useful from this data.

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So what this indicates to me is that Windows 8 isn't very popular it should be over 10,000% more popular than Mountain Lion.

Pfft yeah okay buddy. Most people haven't got a clue how to install an OS, let alone in a non destructive fashion. It's generated a lot of on interest by any relevant metric (e.g. compared to Win7). MS doesn't worry about OSX, MS worries about iOS don't ya think?

Pfft yeah okay buddy. Most people haven't got a clue how to install an OS, let alone in a non destructive fashion. It's generated a lot of on interest by any relevant metric (e.g. compared to Win7). MS doesn't worry about OSX, MS worries about iOS don't ya think?

Who said anything about Microsoft worrying about anything? I sure didn't.

And I'm not your buddy, guy.

Only doubles? I'd expected the difference to be much, much higher considering Windows 8 CP is a public beta and Windows' overall higher market share. Relatively seen much more people are using OS X Mountain Lion in that case. Kudos to Apple. That said also, kudos to Microsoft for making Windows 8 CP a free download.

Who said anything about Microsoft worrying about anything? I sure didn't.

lol the OP pal :p

Doesn't change the fact that people have entirely unrealistic views on how 'popular' a pre-beta of an OS should be - and you sure did on that count, my dear friend.

:)

lol the OP pal :p

Doesn't change the fact that people have entirely unrealistic views on how 'popular' a pre-beta of an OS should be - and you sure did on that count, my dear friend.

:)

I don't think I did actually because if you read my whole message then you would see clearly that the consumer preview is open to everyone while Mountain Lion is locked down behind a $99 developer fee. The fact is that even with a monetary fee Mountain Lion is 50% as popular as Windows 8 when PC's hold 95% of the computer market. This means Windows 8 is not that popular.

Also I believe Windows 7 had a lot more users during its later beta periods than Windows 8 does right now by several orders of magnitude. I even remember seeing an article on this very website that showed Windows 7 RC had a higher market share than OS X Leopard. Which at the time was the main shipping (non-beta) operating system of Apples.

I don't think I did actually because if you read my whole message then you would see clearly that the consumer beta is open to everyone while Mountain Lion is locked down behind a $99 developer fee. The fact is that even with a monetary fee Mountain Lion is 50% as popular as Windows 8 when PC's hold 95% of the computer market. This means Windows 8 is not that popular.

No, that's an extrapolation at best. My problem was with your ridiculous figures originally and now your somehow ineffable conclusion that "it's not that popular". Really sometimes I wonder why people fail to see obvious differences - why was the Win 7 RC popular? Think. Do you think it might have had a lot to do with the previous OS being pretty horrible and people desperate for something more modern than a decade old OS? Could be a factor, yes? Was the RC feature complete? Is the CP at the same level? Ah.. So now we have market where a very good solid OS (7) seems 'good enough' and the amount of hyperbole about how terrible 8 is ("oh god the start screen destroyed my life!") plus the fact we haven't got a 'RC' build means that comparisons are pretty much moot at the moment. In the fullness of time you might be right - but I certainly didn't expect it to be "10,000%" more popular than OSX right now. Crazy eh?

Also I believe Windows 7 had a lot more users during its later beta periods than Windows 8 does right now by several orders of magnitude. I even remember seeing an article on this very website that showed Windows 7 RC had a higher market share than OS X Leopard. Which at the time was the main shipping (non-beta) operating system of Apples.

...so when we get to a Windows 8 RC then we'll have a good comparison. Super.

Send from my iPad. ;) Next to my Android phone. :) And my unbuntu dev box. :p

No, that's an extrapolation at best. My problem was with your ridiculous figures originally and now your somehow ineffable conclusion that "it's not that popular". Really sometimes I wonder why people fail to see obvious differences - why was the Win 7 RC popular? Think. Do you think it might have had a lot to do with the previous OS being pretty horrible and people desperate for something more modern than a decade old OS?

I'm glad you agree with me :) Windows 8 isn't very popular.

See it isn't so hard to see it from my way.

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