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[HawkMan]

BajiRav, on 23 May 2012 - 21:25, said:

? I did say that Microsoft had licensed the FRAND patents but motoroloa still sued them.

yes, you did... oops

[HawkMan]

simplezz, on 23 May 2012 - 20:51, said:

On a brighter note, Sony and Nintendo must be jumping with joy

They shouldn't be, if this lawsuit is successful, and for the laqsuit to have any validity, both of those(seeing as they use the same h.264 stuff) will have to pay the same patents.

luckily that this will never actually go anywhere in reality though. at best it'll be settled for a bare percentage of the ridiculous suit, or it'll eventually be thrown out when they get some actual tech judges and not just the general idiots who don't know what they're doing.

[TEX4S]

My father's company was involved in a $200,000,000 intellectual property infringement (NAC vs Plastipak) - it boiled down to the use of 1 word... "generally"

Right and wrong dont matter, only thing that matters is how good your lawyer's relationship is with the judge - thats it.

[simplezz]

HawkMan, on 23 May 2012 - 21:27, said:

you're sentence doesn't make sense and is all distorted, and whileI think I know what you're trying to say, that's also wrong.

Seems fine to me.

HawkMan, on 23 May 2012 - 21:27, said:

MS did try to make a deal with Motorola, Motorola refused

Microsoft wants to charge $15 per device that uses Android. Motorola is asking for what? $25 for a laptop and something similar for the Xbox. Sounds fair.

HawkMan, on 23 May 2012 - 21:27, said:

, there's was a short back and forth before MS sued because Motorola wouldn't pay a small fair price for the patents like every other OEM.

Do you have the minutes of the meeting as well?

HawkMan, on 23 May 2012 - 21:27, said:

MEanwhile all of MS' demands have been a fair license price.

And Motorola is asking for an equally fair licence price too.

HawkMan, on 23 May 2012 - 21:27, said:

meanwhile Motorola, besides suing over FRAND patents, are also demanding ridiculous prices that are what, 50% the valule of the xbox...

What goes around comes around. So it's okay if Microsoft does it, but unfair when others respond commensurately?

[Praetor]

uhuh...this is harsh.

patent wars: will it ever end?

[HawkMan]

simplezz, on 23 May 2012 - 21:44, said:

Microsoft wants to charge $15 per device that uses Android. Motorola is asking for what? $25 for a laptop and something similar for the Xbox. Sounds fair.

Try one third of that, some partners get a better deal. so not really. and besides that, most phones are at least twice the price of an xbox today. both of these on their own makes the rest of your post irrelevant.

[DevilsNotDead]

simplezz, on 23 May 2012 - 21:44, said:

What goes around comes around. So it's okay if Microsoft does it, but unfair when others respond commensurately?

The Answer is simple "Microsoft fanboys". They justify what they wanted to see!! They bitch about the company who do it to Microsoft.

[DevilsNotDead]

HawkMan, on 23 May 2012 - 21:27, said:

MEanwhile all of MS' demands have been a fair license price. meanwhile Motorola, besides suing over FRAND patents, are also demanding ridiculous prices that are what, 50% the valule of the xbox...

how is $25 50% the value of xbox? xbox sells for $200-350

[+remixedcat]

buncha babies.

[Javik]

Right and wrong rarely if ever matter in the corporate world, it's all a cut-throat little world of "I better crush my opposition before they crush me". The lack of ethics here isn't new, it's just taking a different form.

[Enron]

Microsoft should just go back to developing its own proprietary technology for everything. That's the only way you can have progress in the world of patent litigation.

[Javik]

Yeah, I'm sure hurting their own users and the computing industry is the perfect remedy for having problems with patent litigation. Their attempts to enforce their own standards is what made the tech world call IE6 the best browser ever, right?!

[BajiRav]

simplezz, on 23 May 2012 - 21:44, said:

Motorola is asking for what? $25 for a laptop and something similar for the Xbox. Sounds fair.

As far as I know, going by neowin FP, Motorola was asking for 2.5% of the price of very computer sold with Windows. That does not make any sense, fanboy or not. Why would the license cost more for a $2000 laptop against. $1200 laptop when the only difference is say a bigger SSD? Why should Motorola get $50 on first laptop and $30 on the second when Microsoft doesn't set the price?

Javik, on 24 May 2012 - 00:51, said:

Yeah, I'm sure hurting their own users and the computing industry is the perfect remedy for having problems with patent litigation. Their attempts to enforce their own standards is what made the tech world call IE6 the best browser ever, right?!

IE6 is old, try webkit as it is fast becoming next IE6. We will soon have best viewed in webkit instead of best viewed in Internet explorer. ;p