36 replies to this topic

[-Himanshu-]

I read a thread on another forum I visit.
http://www.india-for...asp?TID=3129838

The OP is claiming that he read some NASA report in Forbes magazine that Earth left 3rd orbit on 13 March, 2012 and will go in 4th orbit on 21 December, 2012 and will collide if a planet is present there. I smelled some conspiracy BS, but then also I thought that maybe I didn't knew of such report, though it seemed pseudoscience to me. I googled the dates and orbits but nothing turned up. So, I asked him to provide some source and stop spreading misinformation. My username is freethinker112. I admit I don't know too much about solar system, but AFAIK two planets don't have coinciding orbits, and Earth will not just jump orbits. But he started bashing me and saying I have no GK(General Knowledge). I even gave him links to the articles on NASA site that says nothing is going to happen in 2012. But he didn't provide any links, saying he read it in Forbes last year, and implying he is somewhat smarter than me because I don't read "international magazines."

So, I just wanted to ask if such a report came from NASA and is true? Because, then it will be embarrassing for me.

[Setnom]

You mean a NASA report confirming that December 21 end of the world thing? Of course not.

EDIT:
http://www.nasa.gov/...tures/2012.html
http://www.nasa.gov/...ns20091110.html
http://lunarscience....h-about-nibiru/

[-Himanshu-]

No, please read the thread. I posted the two links you posted, but he didn't agree. Read his OP. He says that there was a NASA report which said Earth left 3rd orbit and entered 4th where it can collide with a planet. I think it's BS. I just wanted to know that is there really a report like that?

[nekkidtruth]

I wouldn't put too much stock into what that person is claiming. He simply appears to be a believer of this phantom planet that's suppose to appear out of thin air and smack into the Earth....Lol

Here's an interesting read: http://www.scientifi...ocalypse-claims

[-Himanshu-]

Thought so. But because I don't read Forbes, I had slight doubt about it. So no such report exists, right?

[nekkidtruth]

-Himanshu-, on 05 August 2012 - 10:26, said:

Thought so. But because I don't read Forbes, I had slight doubt about it. So no such report exists, right?

I searched for a bit on Google using a wide range of terms to see if I could find anything. Nothing came up. I searched Forbes as well and didn't find anything pertaining to the Earth changing orbit. In fact, Forbes doesn't seem to have anything regarding Nibiru either.

[Setnom]

-Himanshu-, on 05 August 2012 - 09:46, said:

No, please read the thread. I posted the two links you posted, but he didn't agree. Read his OP. He says that there was a NASA report which said Earth left 3rd orbit and entered 4th where it can collide with a planet. I think it's BS. I just wanted to know that is there really a report like that?

That 3rd/4th orbit thing doesn't even make sense. He means different orbits? In what way? Distance? Excentriticity? In cronological terms?

If the Earth went up to another orbit, we would feel the difference.

[nekkidtruth]

Just out of curiosity...I went ahead and read the entire thread you posted. I have to say, why were you even bothering? He had no source, spells like a 13 year old girl chatting on MSN Messenger and had absolutely no idea what he was talking about....

Sorry, I just can't help but wonder why you feel this was worth any amount of effort...

[Hell-In-A-Handbasket]

Setnom, on 05 August 2012 - 10:43, said:

That 3rd/4th orbit thing doesn't even make sense. He means different orbits? In what way? Distance? Excentriticity? In cronological terms?

If the Earth went up to another orbit, we would feel the difference.

Not only that but other planets arent exactially close, we would have to change ALOT, causing massive tidal, grav, and weather changes

I think you should have payed more attention to science class
Edit - and a planet cant just change orbit willy nilly, there would have to be a MASSIVE gravitational inluance, as in another planet, and have you seen any planet in the sky ( you WOULD see it even in daylight

[Dot Matrix]

As it was said, "3rd and 4th orbits" doesn't make sense. Earth has one orbit, and it orbits the sun. Also, if there was a hidden planetary body out there, we would know. When NASA sends out space probes, their trajectories are calibrated with gravitational data from all other celestial bodies in the Sol System. If there was something hiding, our probes would never make it to their destination, because this unknown body would be throwing off the probe's instruments. It's why Hubble just discovered a new moon around Pluto, it's on a scouting mission in regards to the New Horizons probe, so that we can safely navigate it around out there, without having it flung out of the Sol System or smash into anything.

[n_K]

There's no such thing as 'moving up an orbit', the positions of the orbits aren't set so that e.g. it can only be in position 3 or position 4, it can be ANY distance away from the planet it is orbiting, and due to the pull of the moon and other planets, Earth is (very VERY slowly) slowing down and having it's orbit altered. Will you notice the difference? Not unless you're alive for a few million years.
If we moved out as far as the orbit that mars uses then our orbit speed would change, the temperatures on Earth would plummit and other things would happen.

[Javik]

In no uncertain terms it's upper crap. The orbits of the planets are held by gravity, and believe me if something jarring enough to knock earth out of it's orbit were to occur we would all know about it. Plus the obvious climate changes.

The world isn't coming to an end at the end of this year, and these doomsday predictions are just stupid.

[Intrinsica]

I was reminded of that Facebook update talking about how if the Earth was 10 feet closer or farther away from the Sun we would die...people really need to check up on their Science, this stuff is basic!

Note: This isn't a dig at the OP, he's done the right thing by asking for evidence rather than just accepting something he saw on the Internet. Good on you, Jim.

[Hell-In-A-Handbasket]

Intrinsica, on 05 August 2012 - 12:55, said:

I was reminded of that Facebook update talking about how if the Earth was 10 feet closer or farther away from the Sun we would die...people really need to check up on their Science, this stuff is basic!

Note: This isn't a dig at the OP, he's done the right thing by asking for evidence rather than just accepting something he saw on the Internet. Good on you, Jim.

Yea i sawthat postfrom a family memb, i just facepalmed, got my sister to stop beliving in that myan crap cause i asked her if the world ended last Dec, their calendar just lasted longer where ours is 12 months.

[Gerowen]

If we had left our original orbit, we would have noticed huge weather changes already. If we had moved further away from the sun, even a little bit, we would be experiencing colder than usual weather. Instead, we're having a drought and temperatures are higher than average. I imagine the cycles of the moon would appear to change too. We're fine.