Welcome Guest! To access all forums & features, please register an account or sign-in. → Why register?



A little help regarding some claimed NASA report.


36 replies to this topic - - - - -

#16 redvamp128

    Neowinian Wise One

  • 3,781 posts
  • Joined: 06-October 01

Posted 05 August 2012 - 17:00

I remember hearing about something that possibly they are talking about....now I only caught the tail end of it on Television.

It seems that in 2034 Estimated date -- (this was on TLC)
Our solar system and another will pass through one another and some collision of asteroids will hit the Earth, but nothing massive enough to end life as we know it.
Also it seems as if they also believe that some of Pluto's moons will leave our orbit and shift to the other Solar system. With this change the other planets will slow down their path around the sun... This means a longer year for the earth but by no means the end of the world. (their experts also said the Earths orbit has already shifted the position and time of orbit in the path around the sun which explains the Ice Age)

That is what I heard is supposed to happen.

They would know more in 2020 said the report to further and closer predict the outcome.


#17 Dot Matrix

    Neowinian UNSTOPPABLE

  • 5,738 posts
  • Joined: 14-November 11
  • Location: USA
  • OS: Windows 8
  • Phone: Nokia Lumia 920

Posted 05 August 2012 - 17:30

View Postredvamp128, on 05 August 2012 - 17:00, said:

I remember hearing about something that possibly they are talking about....now I only caught the tail end of it on Television.

It seems that in 2034 Estimated date -- (this was on TLC)
Our solar system and another will pass through one another and some collision of asteroids will hit the Earth, but nothing massive enough to end life as we know it.
Also it seems as if they also believe that some of Pluto's moons will leave our orbit and shift to the other Solar system. With this change the other planets will slow down their path around the sun... This means a longer year for the earth but by no means the end of the world. (their experts also said the Earths orbit has already shifted the position and time of orbit in the path around the sun which explains the Ice Age)

That is what I heard is supposed to happen.

They would know more in 2020 said the report to further and closer predict the outcome.

Um. No. Just.... No.



#18 Javik

    Neowinian Wise One

  • 4,315 posts
  • Joined: 21-May 12

Posted 05 August 2012 - 20:23

View PostIntrinsica, on 05 August 2012 - 12:55, said:

I was reminded of that Facebook update talking about how if the Earth was 10 feet closer or farther away from the Sun we would die...people really need to check up on their Science, this stuff is basic!

Note: This isn't a dig at the OP, he's done the right thing by asking for evidence rather than just accepting something he saw on the Internet. Good on you, Jim. (Y)

Precisely. The earth's orbit is elliptical, IIRC the distance from the sun varies by around a million KM between the closest and most distant parts of our orbit, so the argument that we'd fry / freeze simply doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

#19 Nothing Here

    Neowinian Senior

  • 2,164 posts
  • Joined: 23-February 08
  • Location: California, U.S.A.
  • OS: Windows 8 Pro / Kororaa 17

Posted 05 August 2012 - 23:00

OMG!!! The Earth will be destroyed! Everyone, please do not panic. Drive safely to your nearest space port and board the next flight to Mars. Seriously though, if such an occurrence did happen, as others have said. We would have known.

#20 Hum

    totally wAcKed

  • 54,487 posts
  • Joined: 05-October 03
  • Location: Odder Space
  • OS: Windows XP, 7

Posted 05 August 2012 - 23:07

Planets can change relative orbits.

But if Earth had, you'd notice a different amount of light, and a big temperature change. ;)

This idea may have originated from this:

Trojan Asteroid Shares Orbit with Earth

This animation illustrates the orbit of 2010 TK7 (green dots), the first known Earth Trojan asteroid, discovered by NEOWISE, the asteroid-hunting portion of NASA's WISE mission. Trojans are asteroids that share an orbit with a planet, circling around the sun in front of or behind the planet. They circle around stable gravity wells, called Lagrange points, which circle the sun like Earth does.

The movie follows Earth as it travels along its orbit (blue dots) around the sun, so Earth remains at the front of our view. The various objects are not drawn to scale.

Asteroid 2010 TK7 has an extreme orbit that takes the asteroid far above and below the plane of Earth's orbit. The motion above and below the plane is referred to as an epicycle. In addition, the asteroid moves within the plane of Earth's orbit in what is called libration, circling horizontally around its stable point every 395 years.

http://www.jpl.nasa....php?id=PIA14404

#21 Mark

    (: ollǝɥ

  • 3,470 posts
  • Joined: 22-October 04
  • Location: Derbyshire, UK

Posted 05 August 2012 - 23:08

One of two possibilities here:

1) He is mental (literally)
2) You're being trolled.

Each is much more likely than the existence of a planet which we've never noticed colliding with ours based on a sudden change of our orbit.

If this report really did exist, it would be general knowledge for all of us as it'd be all over the news.

#22 redvamp128

    Neowinian Wise One

  • 3,781 posts
  • Joined: 06-October 01

Posted 05 August 2012 - 23:10

View PostDot Matrix, on 05 August 2012 - 17:30, said:



Um. No. Just.... No.
um yes that was one of those what if shows on tlc based upon this dated 2085 I got the year wrong I only caught the tail end of it

http://www.nasa.gov/...ature_2085.html

#23 Mark

    (: ollǝɥ

  • 3,470 posts
  • Joined: 22-October 04
  • Location: Derbyshire, UK

Posted 05 August 2012 - 23:13

View Postredvamp128, on 05 August 2012 - 17:00, said:

Our solar system and another will pass through one another and some collision of asteroids will hit the Earth, but nothing massive enough to end life as we know it.

If this were the case, we would pretty much already have two suns, a second solar system would have to be that close if it were to happen in 2034.

There are however a few known close to earth objects coming by in the next 100 years, all of which have a possibility of hitting, it's too far ahead to tell.

#24 redvamp128

    Neowinian Wise One

  • 3,781 posts
  • Joined: 06-October 01

Posted 05 August 2012 - 23:17

View PostMark, on 05 August 2012 - 23:13, said:



If this were the case, we would pretty much already have two suns, it would have to be that close if it were to happen in 2034.

There are however a few known close to earth objects coming by in the next 100 years, all of which have a possibility of hitting, it's too far ahead to tell.
Supposedly They say the outer edges only will pass through. One another

#25 Dot Matrix

    Neowinian UNSTOPPABLE

  • 5,738 posts
  • Joined: 14-November 11
  • Location: USA
  • OS: Windows 8
  • Phone: Nokia Lumia 920

Posted 05 August 2012 - 23:20

View Postredvamp128, on 05 August 2012 - 23:10, said:

um yes that was one of those what if shows on tlc based upon this dated 2085 I got the year wrong I only caught the tail end of it

http://www.nasa.gov/...ature_2085.html

No. Either you're misunderstanding, or you're thinking of something else. In the next few years, I can only think of a handful of objects Earth has a chance encounter with, and an entire solar system isn't one. In the long term picture, the Milky Way Galaxy (our home galaxy) will collide with Andromeda, but that won't be until well after Humans are gone. The nearest start to us is still Proxima Centauri, a Brown Dwarf, and it won't be coming any closer to us.

http://en.wikipedia....t-future-en.svg

#26 Mark

    (: ollǝɥ

  • 3,470 posts
  • Joined: 22-October 04
  • Location: Derbyshire, UK

Posted 05 August 2012 - 23:21

View Postredvamp128, on 05 August 2012 - 23:17, said:

Supposedly They say the outer edges only will pass through. One another

The process would likely take thousands of years to complete and even if the outer edges of this mystery solar system past through our own edges, the Star would likely already be at a maximum of three times the distance of our sun to the Earth.

*looks out window*

Nope, just one Sun.

Also, if another solar system was really this close, the gravity would totally screw our orbits up and likely result in the destruction of both solar systems. There wouldn't be a "edges passing each other".

Sentry Risk Table (Stuff that could hit us relatively soon)
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/

#27 grayscale

    Resident Elite

  • 1,230 posts
  • Joined: 13-February 11

Posted 05 August 2012 - 23:37

Quote

DUDE , this is not RidiCulous , This Is Called GK.
Which Is Too Poor Of Yours..
last NASA report Came and I Guess Many Ppl Know but You Dunt ,
Its None Of Fault.
if U dun Know You Can Simply Say U Dun Beleive Rathr Than bashing Here.

so if u wana Bash Some1 Here On The Basis Of Ur Own Poor GK , No1 Gonna take it..
u Bettr Dun Comment Now till The Tym U Get Ur Facts Right !


and U talking about Claims and Report , There Is last Year NASA report , ask any Intelligent Science stdnt. If u know , and if u dunt know any than read Forbes Maagazines |intrnational magzine|
go Na d Get It. rathr Than Shouting Here And Making No Sense...

You'll not gonna win here, brother. Not against him :laugh:

#28 Hell-In-A-Handbasket

    Neowinian UNSTOPPABLE

  • 6,313 posts
  • Joined: 30-September 03
  • OS: Win 7 Ultimate, iOS5, OSX 10.6, Ubuntu, WinXP

Posted 05 August 2012 - 23:49

View PostMark, on 05 August 2012 - 23:21, said:



if the second sun was say out past Neptune we would see it as just another star
the planets are REAAAAALY far apart.

thats part of the problem NASA is having ATM with trying to look for the Sun's twin, majority of the solar systems we have found are Binary or above Star systems, was said that a Solar system like ours is Extremly Rare. the suns twin is belived to be a Brown Dwarf or something that with its estimated distance being in the Ort Cloud and its coolness/brightness being as it would be extremly hard to find.

as currently there is a debate on what is knocking the orbits of random objects from the cloud into the solar system at the regular intervals that have been seen so far.

oh sweet i found an article like what i read, i forget where i read it, but i doubt it was from Telegraph
http://www.telegraph...msday-twin.html

#29 mudslag

    I live in your head

  • 7,252 posts
  • Joined: 16-September 06
  • Location: Northwest Chicago burbs

Posted 05 August 2012 - 23:55

threads about other threads are retarded

#30 Mark

    (: ollǝɥ

  • 3,470 posts
  • Joined: 22-October 04
  • Location: Derbyshire, UK

Posted 06 August 2012 - 00:13

View PostHell-In-A-Handbasket, on 05 August 2012 - 23:49, said:



A) Stars are much bigger than planets
B) Stars actually emit light rather than reflect light, lots of it

It would at the very least be visible through the day time clearly.