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#1 Lunfai

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 20:39

Hello, I'm not the one who usually makes threads, but I'm just installing Windows 8 onto my Virtual Machine, and I noticed the default wallpaper is very low quality. I have OCD (I know, pftt), and I just can't imagine them shipping Windows 8 with a wallpaper like this. I'm just wondering, is it just me? I even looked up the default wallpaper online and saw it's the same quality (thinking it was virtual machines problem, but I was wrong).

If you look closely around the edges of the flower, you'll see the degradation. I know it's supposed to be some kind of blue that makes the effect that there's a breeze in the picture, but it really doesn't do it's justice.

Other than that, I love the OS. I'm just being nit picky, but the fact this made it into the RTM, I'm not very happy at. I worry about every little detail, I know I can just change the wallpaper, but this default wallpaper will be rolled to millions/billions of PC's...

I'm not complaining, I'm just shocked.. other than that, I love the new OS.

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#2 Shane Nokes

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 20:43

I don't really notice much in the way of compression artifacts, that looks like an intentional artistic choice based on the focal point of the image...

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 20:49

You don't know much about photography, huh?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokeh

This is completely normal and not a quality issue.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 20:50

If it's intentional, then I wish they didn't do it :(, here's a 4 x zone of the most worrying part for me:

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View Postfloopydoodle, on 27 October 2012 - 20:49, said:

You don't know much about photography, huh?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokeh

This is completely normal and not a quality issue.

Yes, I know a little. I've seen Bokeh in the past, but I haven't seen such intention in past images of Bokeh applied photos. I might add that the other flower and parts are fine, it's just this area.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 20:53

Quick question.

For how long will you be looking at this image? Surely when working/using your PC you don't see your wallpaper for 90-95% of the time.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 20:55

View Postmetallithrax, on 27 October 2012 - 20:53, said:

Quick question.

For how long will you be looking at this image? Surely when working/using your PC you don't see your wallpaper for 90-95% of the time.

Depends, I know I can just change the wallpaper. I was just glancing at it yesterday and thought it looked a little off. I'm very nit picky :p

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 21:06

I'll agree, the quality is dumbed down for sure from the source image.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 21:08

View PostLunfai, on 27 October 2012 - 20:55, said:

Depends, I know I can just change the wallpaper. I was just glancing at it yesterday and thought it looked a little off. I'm very nit picky :p

Well, I suggest you stop picking at your nits and get some work done :D

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 21:11

View Postxendrome, on 27 October 2012 - 21:06, said:

I'll agree, the quality is dumbed down for sure from the source image.

How so? It looks to make like an intentional use of single focus photography.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 21:25

I agree, the default wallpapers for Windows 8 are low quality. For starters they're all 1920x1200 (or the corresponding multi-monitor equivalent), so they look even worse when stretched to 2560x1600; they're also JPG rather than a lossless format like PNG. More importantly, they're all overly artistic and utilise excessive amounts of blur.

Personally I have a membership with Vladstudio because I love the wallpapers he has there - everything from cartoons to photos. I know wallpapers are very subjective but the problem with Windows 8 is that the included wallpapers are all very similar in style and objectively bad quality due being low-resolution JPG files.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 21:26

View PostShane Nokes, on 27 October 2012 - 21:11, said:



How so? It looks to make like an intentional use of single focus photography.

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That image clearly shows color replacement around the edges of the changes in color, as you would see then choosing a "Save for Web" in Photoshop and choosing a quality lower then 100% which then replaces/removes colors in the palette.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 21:30

View Postxendrome, on 27 October 2012 - 21:26, said:

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That image clearly shows color replacement around the edges of the changes in color, as you would see then choosing a "Save for Web" in Photoshop and choosing a quality lower then 100% which then replaces/removes colors in the palette.

I've just noticed that, depending on how well your monitor reproduces colour it depends how much degradation you'll see. I've just plugged in another Samsung Monitor in, and it looks pleasant. The monitor on my Air which is also Samsung, shows the flaw more clearly, but I'd say colour on the Air is a lot better then this monitor :s. Think I'm going to calibrate to see what I can do.

#13 Shane Nokes

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 21:39

View Postxendrome, on 27 October 2012 - 21:26, said:

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That image clearly shows color replacement around the edges of the changes in color, as you would see then choosing a "Save for Web" in Photoshop and choosing a quality lower then 100% which then replaces/removes colors in the palette.

Correct there is image compression. I never claimed otherwise. I was referring to the 'blur'. That's obviously an artistic choice regarding the focus used while shooting the image.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 21:49

View PostShane Nokes, on 27 October 2012 - 21:39, said:

Correct there is image compression. I never claimed otherwise. I was referring to the 'blur'. That's obviously an artistic choice regarding the focus used while shooting the image.

I beg to differ. The diagonal lines across the flower are consistent with a Tilt-Shift blur done in PS CS6.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 21:50

View PostShane Nokes, on 27 October 2012 - 21:39, said:

Correct there is image compression. I never claimed otherwise. I was referring to the 'blur'. That's obviously an artistic choice regarding the focus used while shooting the image.

It's a combination of the two - there's the excessive blur and post-processing (which is artistic); and there's the compression artifacts (which stem from the low resolution and lossy format). The end result? Wallpapers that are objectively low quality and stylistically objectionable.