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[spudtrooper]

Growled, on 06 November 2012 - 00:48, said:

I've been standing back and watching at our local Best Buy. The Apple section and the tablet sections are packed but almost no one goes to the Windows 8 section.

Not what i'm seeing.. I'm seeing that most stores still have their Windows 7 pcs showcased and maybe have 1-2 windows 8 laptops that were merely upgraded windows 7 machines. The stores that do have windows 8 ultrabooks, desktops, all in ones and tablets with windows 8 are absolutely packed.

So for those of you who work at stores where they don't give a crap, you guys fail. If you work at a store that bothered to build out a windows 8 display and setup PC's with touch screens, you guys get it.

cropcircles, on 06 November 2012 - 01:06, said:

I would like to see sales from businesses and corporations on Windows 8. I think a majority of corporation are going to be using Windows 7 for a long time if they have even switched over from XP. Individual purchases of W8 will be from a younger age group 18-30. More of a gimmicky OS that people want to purchase to play with and they can tell their friends they have it. Not very functional for most, especially desktop users when looking at installing and quickly adapting and getting to work.

Can you quite it with the nonsense? You have no clue what corporations want and no clue what end users want. Windows 8 has a lot more even over Windows7 for corporate deployment, management and quite frankly, a lot of IT shops will be thrilled to push out windows 8 because management of infrastructures running WinRT apps is a lot less of a hassle than current win32 apps. There will be a learning curve, but people aren't idiots and learning windows 8 is quite often a lot easier than learning some kludgy sucky line of business application that people learn because its their JOB.

Virtualization, modernizing of apps to html5 and the ability to run remote desktops and remote applications is pushing many corporations to Bring your own device (BYOD) and quite frankly, nothing connects to BYOD any better than a Windows 8 system. Employees will just bring their own device and the apps/services will be virtualized and presented through a controlled fashion.

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nekrosoft13, on 05 November 2012 - 21:05, said:

who said everyone, windows 8 will be like vista, will sell to an extent, but will go down in history as a flop

If Windows 8 is going to be like Vista, then where are all the pundits/consumers yelling complaints? Where is botched launch? Where are the constant delays in developing the OS? Where are the bug reports?

[hamslammer]

nekrosoft13, on 05 November 2012 - 18:17, said:

its selling well because its cheap, once a lot of people install it, they will wish they didn't

You are so right!! I bought the cheap upgrade and installed it when it came out. I had some guides to use for the new system that I thought would make the transition easier. After a week it came off and I am happily running Windows 7 again, a true desktop operating system, not one with a cartoonish start page.

[spudtrooper]

hamslammer, on 06 November 2012 - 13:44, said:

You are so right!! I bought the cheap upgrade and installed it when it came out. I had some guides to use for the new system that I thought would make the transition easier. After a week it came off and I am happily running Windows 7 again, a true desktop operating system, not one with a cartoonish start page.

The new start screen is only as "Cartoony" as you make it, but at least its functional over the static nested mess of W7's.

[CSharp.]

Colin McGregor, on 05 November 2012 - 19:48, said:

VISTA has a higher userbase then mac and Linux combined

5.8% for Vista vs. 8.33% for Mac+Linux combined is what NetMarketShare claims.

[Growled]

spudtrooper, on 06 November 2012 - 13:53, said:

The new start screen is only as "Cartoony" as you make it, but at least its functional over the static nested mess of W7's.

Yeah, I like the app part of the new start screen. Anyone that uses a phone or a tablet should easily get it.

[Shane Nokes]

notuptome2004, on 06 November 2012 - 00:46, said:

Well it sold 4 millions copies just software alone in 4 days so 4 million copies of windows 8 is huge in just 4 days so i beg to differ that it will sell somewhat matter fact it seems it has sold allot and continues to sell

That was just upgrade copies as well. It didn't include the System Builder licenses (that now has a real Personal Use license for full installs), or the OEM machines sold with Windows 8 on there. This was purely upgrade licenses.

That bodes well for future sales.

cropcircles, on 06 November 2012 - 01:06, said:

I would like to see sales from businesses and corporations on Windows 8. I think a majority of corporation are going to be using Windows 7 for a long time if they have even switched over from XP. Individual purchases of W8 will be from a younger age group 18-30. More of a gimmicky OS that people want to purchase to play with and they can tell their friends they have it. Not very functional for most, especially desktop users when looking at installing and quickly adapting and getting to work.

I'm older than your age group, use my PC for real work, and I use Windows 8. I find it offers me better functionality in a few areas than 7, and I get more done more quickly from what I've seen in my personal usage case.

So there goes your entire post.

[nekrosoft13]

Growled, on 07 November 2012 - 01:40, said:

Yeah, I like the app part of the new start screen. Anyone that uses a phone or a tablet should easily get it.

i want my desktop to work as desktop, i don't want to wave my finger around and make smudge marks on my monitor.

PC and tablet are different worlds, and require diffrent GUI.

[Shane Nokes]

nekrosoft13, on 07 November 2012 - 03:05, said:

i want my desktop to work as desktop, i don't want to wave my finger around and make smudge marks on my monitor.

PC and tablet are different worlds, and require different GUI.

That's why you can still use a mouse and keyboard. No one is there with a gun forcing you to use a touchscreen. I don't even own a touchscreen PC and have Windows 8 and yet somehow I still manage to do things faster than on Windows 7.

So your post...not even close to true. I have no issues with opinions...but posting false information? Sorry, doesn't fly.

[j2006]

Denis W, on 05 November 2012 - 20:52, said:

What shops were those that ran out of copies of Windows 8? Curious to know if they were all the big box stores plus the smaller (cheaper) chains like CanComps and NCIX.

The stores I checked out were big box stores: Future Shop, Best Buy, Staples and The Source. A quiet Staples nearby that not many people shop at only had 1 left. I haven't checked those smaller stores.

Also, the Best Buy here there's still lots of customers interested in Windows 8... all the PCs (new and old) look to have Windows 8 on them, and there's Win8 balloons and free weekly seminars available to teach people the differences and how to adapt to the changes. I love it!

nekrosoft13, on 07 November 2012 - 03:05, said:

i want my desktop to work as desktop, i don't want to wave my finger around and make smudge marks on my monitor.

PC and tablet are different worlds, and require diffrent GUI.

Shane Nokes, on 07 November 2012 - 03:12, said:

That's why you can still use a mouse and keyboard. No one is there with a gun forcing you to use a touchscreen. I don't even own a touchscreen PC and have Windows 8 and yet somehow I still manage to do things faster than on Windows 7.

So your post...not even close to true. I have no issues with opinions...but posting false information? Sorry, doesn't fly.

This!!! +999999999999999
People are just ignorant and not patient enough to adapt to it. At first, I didn't like it either, but now I seem to use it faster than Windows 7 myself. The 'glance and go' live tile on my Start Screen have actually become useful when needed, but I normally stick to the desktop most of the time.

[Pam14160]

If you really want to see how well Win 8 is being received go onto the torrent download sites. Just for kicks the other day I visited the top ten sites and on all sites (over a ten hour time period) there were no less then 4100 individuals attempting to download (steal) Win 8. That figures in and around 400,000 people an hour working at downloading Win8. . .go figure.

[Shane Nokes]

Indeed. That's how I use the start screen a lot of times. I'm either going there specifically just to launch something, or to glance and go at things I want to keep track of quickly.

I can spot my weather, new e-mail count, and message count all within a second or two, and then back out to whatever else I'm doing.

[Pam14160]

Shane Nokes, on 07 November 2012 - 03:51, said:

Indeed. That's how I use the start screen a lot of times. I'm either going there specifically just to launch something, or to glance and go at things I want to keep track of quickly.

I can spot my weather, new e-mail count, and message count all within a second or two, and then back out to whatever else I'm doing.

Same here. Today other then having Win 7 in a VM I removed all the dual boots of 7 and 8, thus now running on 8 only. With 7 in a VM really can't see having a dual boot system unless I decide to play with Linux.

[zeke009]

cropcircles, on 06 November 2012 - 01:06, said:

I would like to see sales from businesses and corporations on Windows 8. I think a majority of corporation are going to be using Windows 7 for a long time if they have even switched over from XP. Individual purchases of W8 will be from a younger age group 18-30. More of a gimmicky OS that people want to purchase to play with and they can tell their friends they have it. Not very functional for most, especially desktop users when looking at installing and quickly adapting and getting to work.

If corporations go with Windows 7 and plan to sit idle they learned nothing from WinXP. Where I work we support over 100,000 desktops and laptops, we're moving to Windows 7 and making plans for bring in Windows 8. It'll be difficult, but we have to do it. Why? Because we can't afford to get comfy with Win7 like we did with WinXP. We have to stay current with Windows, Office and Internet Explorer. No more sitting idle because of a personal preference. If we don't push forward then we'll be ****ing millions away in labor intensive upgrades (devices and applications) because were grew content with Win7, Office 2010 and IE8.

spudtrooper, on 06 November 2012 - 13:39, said:

Can you quite it with the nonsense? You have no clue what corporations want and no clue what end users want. Windows 8 has a lot more even over Windows7 for corporate deployment, management and quite frankly, a lot of IT shops will be thrilled to push out windows 8 because management of infrastructures running WinRT apps is a lot less of a hassle than current win32 apps. There will be a learning curve, but people aren't idiots and learning windows 8 is quite often a lot easier than learning some kludgy sucky line of business application that people learn because its their JOB. Virtualization, modernizing of apps to html5 and the ability to run remote desktops and remote applications is pushing many corporations to Bring your own device (BYOD) and quite frankly, nothing connects to BYOD any better than a Windows 8 system. Employees will just bring their own device and the apps/services will be virtualized and presented through a controlled fashion.

Kind of harsh, but you bring up a good point. Tablets/Slates that run Windows. These fit our security model and will simplify support greatly. BYOD still makes me cringe. Some users just will not grasp the fact that the companies help desk can not support their personal device.

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I saw a Windows 8 Pro display stand in my local Tesco (Batley, UK.) I don't ever remember seeing Windows 7 being on sale there, bigger audience, more sales. I think Microsoft are getting things right.