Seahorsepip, on 10 December 2012 - 19:12, said:
Depends on the country someone lives in, It's COMPLETELY legal to download movies and music here, I pay a damn "media" fee on every "media" object I buy...
That goes without saying. I'm talking about countries where piracy is illegal.
Axel, on 10 December 2012 - 19:16, said:
Read my earlier post - it comes from dissatisfaction from whats available. If you haven't used a streamlined solution like sickbeard/couchpotato/sabnzbd/plex then I would very much believe you'd be happy using something inferior and riddled with DRM. But for many, dropping back to the mainstream stuff is simply a downgrade I'm afraid.
The industry needs to offer something better. It's currently just not good enough. If people didn't feel like they were justified using them then they simply wouldn't use them and they'd use the legal alternatives you mentioned. Music piracy forced THAT industry to adapt (we now have DRM free music downloads) and now the Movie/TV industry needs to do the same.
Your blanket "no justification" comment is frankly a bit shortsighted. Changes need to be made.
If you're dissatisfied with what's available then go and stand on a picket line and protest, write in to the media, whatever. Getting content by illegal means does nothing to express your dissatisfaction; the content providers will just assume you're a cheapo.
If you're not happy with what's available then you should abstain from getting that media altogether, rather than becoming a criminal and seeking illegal means to get them.
Shortsighted my ass. I'm just being realistic.
Klownicle, on 10 December 2012 - 19:19, said:
You can sit on your high horse all you want thinking we don't spend money legally. You think just becuase we use sites like this doesn't mean we arn't doing legal services also? Its all about availability. I have NetFlix, MoviePass, TV Service, and have a massive collection of blurays not to mention limited editions that you end up paying more than double the cost of a normal bluray. I can tell you justification comes with availability. When these services finally get up to snuff of what the "pirates" are doing. MAYBE there wouldn't be such an issue. Look at hidef rips of movies not even available in retail channels but you can "pirate" a copy of it online in hidef. I'd gladly give them more, but they choose to fight rather than work together. Then you got these companies trying to pass on crap to the end-user with low quality transfers.
When there is no company providing what you want, you will seek alternatives. When you seek alternatives, some people create there own and share to others wanting the same.
All I see is WAHHH.
If you can't get what you want by legal means then just don't have it. You act like you're ENTITLED to have that content in the way that YOU want it. Get over yourself.